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Intuition might leave the house to other server
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There is topic on this subject - Ahn'Qiraj needs a merge but is totally ignored from blizzard, maybe is not ignored or just don’t have solution for the problem. The situation on server is very serious and was same maybe in last 2 3 years always slightly better on horde side but there situation is also very bad atm. I really don’t know what to say anymore im the last person who wanna left the server and start all over again on other server. I don’t even want to change the server for many reasons here I find all my friends on this server all ppl who im with years together mosly of them become real life friends, this server change my life I find my wife here who we are merry and playing wow still here for 5 years in this guild and over 6 years on this server. For many players changing server looks very easy but not for me or for Intuition. Intuition existing over 5 years on this server and is the most stable guild as I know looking on this server. I don’t wanna offend any other guild but life and situation change the things over other guilds who disband who stop raid who transfer who change guild many reasons what is understandable. We make many many friends and enemy on this server but the enemy are just raging sparks in game or nice competition on other hands we are in good relationship with mostly of ppl. There also many new players on the server in last 1 2 years and many of them don’t know the history of this guild. Once the guild disband in 2007 and all players get lost on all over the servers except core of 10 players who are still in guild until today and recreate the guild and pushing and struggling until today always searching for players for other servers or horde side. Mostly of players are born inside in the guild who start as casuals and getting more serious as raiders every day and become one of the most loyal player in guild. There are many players in guild who want to raid and we cant provide that easy in last period we are stuck in25man progress coz lack of players. We have players but many of them cant play for some reassson in this period or some cant play in other period and that’s why the server need more players. A bit pool where players can competition and recruitments be more easy. Is terrible hard to make recruitments atm. Guild have over 540 chars inside and mostly of the players was raiding in some period of his life there are very little who can raid with years and years always with same tempo u know all that. We don’t want to leave the server and probably we will not. But we need solution same for our guild and solution for all others guilds to wake up. AQ have like 2k register chars in ranking guilds if that is correct and u don’t wanna merge it with other server coz u are to proud that blizzard never close server until now. Yes didn’t close that’s true but allrdy lost 2mlion subscribers and how all other players who left need to survive on rest of the servers. Our situation on this server will get even worse because the expansion is still far away and I see ppl allrdy get bored from LFR and new DS raid. The solution need to be more permanent. From my point merge server or some new system who will don’t matter on what server u are. We have big percentage of very loyal players and this subject is many time discussed about changing server but we always end up for staying here and trying as much we can. We are not top ranking world guild we know that but we just wanan raid and competition with all what we can. And leaving server I think or maybe im wrong will make addition damage on the server from what allrdy have left strong inside. What we don’t want to make. Don’t know what to say im just sad for the ppl who wanna raid and giving there best all this time and sacrifice for keep the guild, I guess same situation to all guilds. We need solution. Thanks |
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I'm sorry to hear that blade, i hope you guys stay because Intuition is the only thing that is keeping aly side together and without you Horde would just take over Stormwind permanently... Blizzard should get off their lazy asses and do something about this cause Intuition players are not only ones who think of Ahn'Qiraj as their home realm and don't want to transfer somewhere else
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Edited by Valaut on 15/01/12 18:13 (UTC)
Is that where we will end? Being a stormscale v.2? Because that will be the result if intuition transfers, we will just don't have anything competitive (not that we do now, but how low will we fall), I may not be an old player without even a year of experience on this game but this server is home for me too and I don't want to see it completely fall apart. Transfering to another server is a possibility for me but if AQ dies, I might as well lose my interest on this game. I never had anything against intuition, never saw them being bad or anything and the few persons I know from there are really kind and patient I might add, so I hope you guys don't leave us to die (overdramatic, I know q.q) but it will just be boring... Although I can totally understand why you would like to transfer and not stay on this bad server limiting you from reaching whatever content you want to reach just because there are not enough people who are either not hardcore or just not made for heroic raiding or rbging or whatever intuition's aim is.
Blizzard should really do something about this, if you look at the registered characters they are a total of 2.8k people, if we think that each person has 1-4 alts it easily drops to 1.3k, then a horde/ally ratio of 1/0.87 gives horde around 700-800 players and alliance 500-600 players. And most of them are not interested in anything other than dunging or bging which leaves us with only a handful of players that can actually do anything at all. Although it isn't as bad as stormscale or silvermoon's unbalanced ally/horde ratios, we are still in a very miserable situation in terms of population and Blizzard should act NOW. We are asking a merge for such a long time, yet they refuse to listen us looking only their own good and not caring at all about the 12 euros or w/e currency we pay to keep them up and how loyal people have been to them over the years. Ahn Qiraj needs a merge, hope this thread will be the last and the miraculous one that will convince them to merge us with another server so we can enjoy our PvE/PvP experience at it's fullest without needing to get away from our "home" server. Again, I hope you guys don't leave to keep things as balanced as possible. I think I've said enough. |
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I hope we won't have to leave but as blade said, we need a solution. In most of the answers the GM's said that merging with another realm is out of discussion, even so i don't see any free character transfer or a way to increase the population on the realm.
Best wishes to all guilds on AQ. |
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Well, I also don't want to leave AQ, I play here as long as I remember, got many friends on this server, but many guilds now are having hard time raiding and progressing in DS.
I hope blizzard will do something about this. |
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I completly agree that we really need a solution that will be permanent ( not some kind of free transfer that lasts 1 week, because lets face it... no one wants to come here. ).
Hope blizzard will see this and decide to do something to help the server (including hordes aswell). Dont forget that hordes used to be 80% of server and now they are 55% of the total population. |
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Whoo, free TB wns all day urr' day.
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Blade, I know how you feel mate, i had this probelm on my old realm spinebreaker when the horde, i was horde on a Very high pop horde server, the server was going to be shut down due to Lack of players, i moved to alliance with around 20 other players and created The Last Stand, we had 2.3k players over a few guilds in 6 week's, its all about people rerolling alts and helping eachothers guilds out in low pop servers like ours.
Personaly i dont enjoy playing 85' infact i Despise it, but if needed il move my warlock (85) back to alliance to raid with anyone to keep this realm alive i hope many other players at the same time see this as needed to keep this realm going, i am currently building twink guilds that we get alot of hate for yet, most players dont see what we bring to this realm. Many twinks who we move over and not just us only Hardmode aswell, we bring over players alts and then in the end most will move there mains' ( Chab with snuddle <3 ) this does help the realm out and yes i know this isnt much but its all we can currently do :) If this doesnt make any sense blame chab. Hydra Out |
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Was wondering when this topic would arise - though must admit I expected it alot sooner, in Wotlk even, I guess I underestimated how close your ties with the realm were.
I'd just like to start by reiterating what you speculated before, in that even though the realm is pretty much horde dominant it isn't exactly amazing on this side either. Just recently we've seen on the forums that Univelka have decided to migrate to Ragnaros (whether or not this has gone through I'm not sure, just going by what has been posted), over the previous few years we've seen various other strong PvE guilds leave the realm in an attempt to find more populated ones to continue building their ranks in order to gain more efficient PvE progress. Your guild being one of the select few that has stayed, which is why I said what I did before about my surprise of this being the case. Another being Mighty Rising, though not sure how actively they're raiding at the minute, would be interesting to hear from an officer in the guild (looking at you Vinum) to see how they're finding the current situation. I know your interest is of PvE only however it's a similar story on the PvP side as well though. Over the past few arena seasons more and more players have left the realm in search of finding arena teammates or steady RBG groups. I know many people that have done this and gained nothing from it. The fact however that the current state of the realm encourages people to pay money and abandon their connections to the realm pretty much speaks a lot about the situation. Trespasser’s Society isn’t really a PvP guild, regardless of what people hear, so I cannot comment on how well the horde are doing in RBG’s. However from a PuG point of view, as an example, just last night a druid named Jura spent a while trying to put together a group only for it to be called off due to lack of players available, this being a Sunday evening supposedly “peak hour”. The fact that Ahn’Qiraj is listed as a “PvP realm” is a complete joke really. Ok I understand that it can be difficult to manage a group of 10 people to continuously synergise into a strong RBG group, but looking through the arena rankings at this moment in time: 2v2 Above 2.2k: 1 horde 0 alliance Above 2k: 9 horde 0 alliance 3v3 Above 2.2k: 1 horde 0 alliance Above 2k: 3 horde 1 alliance 5v5 Highest team is at 1678. This being a bracket where multiple teams made for cap end up going 2k+. Currently there are only 3 players on the entire realm who will be getting T2 weapons this reset, all 3 of them playing a top tier comp in doing so. (Not saying they do not deserve it at all, they do, since they are probably the best at their class on the realm) But the stats listed above are quite a silly reflection of a PvP realm arena wise. Again, I understand that arena isn’t just PvP/RBG, battlegrounds are an important aspect but they cannot be measured – also world PvP is only alive alliance side since due to faction imbalance, it isn’t difficult for horde to enter SW at will. (I can prove this if you like :P) My main issue with the current situation is that it’s a long-standing problem now that has been addressed by the players on the realm repeatedly. A problem that is only getting bigger and bigger as time goes by and a problem that Blizzard have failed to properly address and identify as an issue. I have suggested previously that free faction changes on imbalanced realms may help situations like the one we found ourselves in, but in honesty I’m thinking that we may be already past that point now. I also think we’ve gone past the point of FCM’s too, thus leaving a merge as the solution that best fits the situation. I’ve played on this realm since I started the game, so like yourself, cannot fathom finding myself anywhere else. I have actually previously transferred off in previous expansions, but ended up coming back because AQ may be $£%& but it’s home. Currently I’m fortunate enough in that I know a select group of people who I can play arena and have fun with, which satisfies myself in terms of what I want from the game but from a general point of view I can understand the gripe many players have who are in very different situations looking to gain something else from it. I realise there is already a multiple page thread regarding this issue but I felt that numerous responses weren’t properly thought out/nor presented well as well as it being filled with various troll responses. (Looking at you Rullball/Iislol) Maybe if extra effort was put in our end, Blizzard would do the same? Or perhaps I’m just lost in a dream world. Particularly seeing as there are also many other problems in the game relating to various imbalances, bugs etc – yet Blizzard seem to show complete negligence to their customer base regarding those, that is why I don’t expect a fix any time soon for, well, anything. |
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Pretty much what Kavax said. Tried transferring off etc, it don't matter though, AQ is home. Would put my srs cap on and post a serious story, but since that ain't how I roll, I ain't goin' to. And hey, why not tell the truth Kavax, you came back for me. <3 aw ye heterosexual life partners.
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Hello all,
i was talking with someone who is really interest to help us with our problem :) He did already some steppes by his side and to us, who care about AQ, is he advicing to make some feedbacks in this thread, becouse it is still readen by blues. The more the better. http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2986509135?page=28 "Twinkle twinkle little star" |
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We realy need a merge. My suggetion, simply , just merge all low population realms together xD.
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I dont see here any solution because Blizzard dont care about us and its absolutly true story. Im agree with Kavax because this is really PVP realm and no need to cry about - that we dont have enough players for raids. All new ppl who started playing this game - before they choose realm they look at realm information - AQ PVP LOW POPULATION. There is no chance that someday we will have more skilled ppl for PVE.
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I dont see here any solution because Blizzard dont care about us and its absolutly true story. Im agree with Kavax because this is really PVP realm and no need to cry about - that we dont have enough players for raids. All new ppl who started playing this game - before they choose realm they look at realm information - AQ PVP LOW POPULATION. There is no chance that someday we will have more skilled ppl for PVE. No no, this is not what I meant by any means. I just know that Blade and Intuition in general are more PvE orientated, so I decided to cover various PvP aspects since my guild tend to prefer that part of the game and have reasonable knowledge on the current PvP situation the realm is in. Sure the realm is classified as PvP, but there is no law against participating in both aspects (PvP & PvE). I can personally think of a number of people who take part in both at a reasonable level, not to mention going further back to the GoD/Requiem times. Also the current state of the game PvP wise actually encourages people to raid with the insane amount of overpowered gear that is available from doing so. I think Ahn’Qiraj has long since moved away from being a PvP only realm – I can’t speak a lot about vanilla as I was just getting into the game then, but as I’ve seen the realm develop and watched the type of people migrate – you’d be hard pushed to find anyone else outside the server that could guess that it was PvP orientated. Whilst this has a lot to do with the fact that the realm has little reason to hold significance amongst more well known realms such as SS/Outland and various others, that’s beside the point as it holds great significance to us. It’s a shame Blizzard don’t review small things such as the realm type, because for a long time now I’d consider us PvP/PvE (well I’d consider us a dying realm but doubt that would be a good classification for marketing purposes :P), possibly even RP if you see all the strange things going on in Durotar at times.. Either way I’ll sign the link posted above and pass it on to my guild later on today when I’m online and try to encourage (force) them to sign it with a few words. TLDR: It wasn’t at all my point to try and solve one type of problem before another. As far as I’m concerned the only way we’ll deal with this situation is to put aside our own personal gains and resolve it together as a community. |
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Thanks for the replays and support and relly hope that something will be done, but I must admit my hope is very little. Because blizzard cant or don’t want to see how is the reality.
My point of view: - now we are January and wtf we gona do until December until new expansion come, ppl will get even more terrible bored, burned and quit or break or low activity until then (even they nerf DS still same gona be or even worse ppl faster to gear faster to slacking). And lets say they will come out with something small just to make ppl busy something like halion RS when come in last expansion. That still cant sort the problems. - Same for pvp wtf ppl gona do until December all of them gona get full gear in about several weeks from now. - Oki lets look on other hand lets say is all about money and business still is fail coz even new expansion bring many many china little ppl, they will don’t play on AQ ofc they will play on there servers so our problem still stay - I don’t see the proud where is for don’t merge the server with other one. I know that 2 independent servers is better then 1 together coz is better for spred and space for all. Same like the guilds. When one guild merge with other is bad in most of the cases coz they destroying one guild is better to they fight both independent and bring overall resaults. But this is not same case here we try we fight we struggling over and over the years is just don’t work man. And solution don’t know relly what we can do from our side. To transfer the guild ? and lets say will follow good number of players like 30-40 who raid active and half active. What about there alts, guild friends, social player, players who have family inside, currently inactive players, friends coz that’s number of 500+ chars. And What ?¿ to transfer the guild and to left 500+ chars on ¨street¨. Well that I cant allow. Coz is morality stupid thing. Well oki lets say the best for the guild. But doing that guild will don’t be same how use to be. So instead to make good u allrdy fall it apart. Or we can just continue same and search new ppl and old and good players with high ambicions or freelancers players just left coz don’t have what to do. There is very high number of players who ¨just play the game¨ and they need more populated servers. Not all ppl only raid. Coz usually I know by experience when we have hard raiding days and raiding for 6h is like 80% ppl after raid from tired and happy on some way logout and coming next day again for raids. But other ppl need server with life and wake up the server. Is same and bout equal important the raiders and the casuals. They cant one without the other. Same for inside in guilds same for intuition same important and same value are both side difference ofc raiders raid coz they can effeort the requirements for activity compare with others. Well I don’t know …or maybe is just the game overplayed and spent and no space for new things and solutions. We rely need solution for the situation coz most easy and most what we don’t want is to change the server. But we don’t want that Pls we relly need solution. I don’t have to break my proud to say please also this will sound abit lol but what make me happy is to see ppl on server and my guild be happy. Wow is very big part of my life. I know not to many and u can call it how u want this but even u are more casual u need players like me to hold u the things and I cant without you. im not in some depresive state haha but ofc have moments thats normal. we run few 10man atm and normal 25m. But i see ppl arround are sad even hurt me all thouse comments who fly on trade chat all over the time. so ye |
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You could try to recruit people to here from those servers who have free migration to AQ.. dont know if you have done this allready but that is one way to get more people. They wont just come here if there aint anyone to get them here. They need reason to come here. I wouldnt change my old server to another just because it is free...
Sometimes I can be serious. Doh. But as Nigel allready said, not leaving this !@#$hole. I'm that rat what will go down with the boat :P And i'm also too poor to pay for server change XD |
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Edited by Vinum on 17/01/12 21:29 (UTC)
Well actually I think we could be worse. We don't really have specific raid times since most of the people in the guild can never guarantee when to be online. Considering the fact that our core raiders consists mostly from 12-15 people. We have no chance for 25man, unless you count the exceptions of bringing some social members in on Wednesday nights when most of the people seem to be online, but for progress wise, not gonna happen. So what we are mostly doing is we raid whenever we have the people. We focus on 10man only when it comes to progression, since it seems that there is no more people in this realm to recruit that would actually "fit in" with the requirements needed for some content pushing. And I agree, pretty much on all of the posts above. I've been here since the start of TBC when I switched to this realm. (besides quitting during wrath and came back before Cata hit.) But I've seen alot of good people come and go. With this rate I've seen more of them go than come to be honest, and that's what is slowly killing this realm. I'd very much like to see something done about this...like stated before, maybe a merge with another low populated realm. I think that would bring alot more possibilities for the casuals and for the more content pushing people to progress and not always just rely on the few core members that happen to be online sometimes. And I honestly don't see the problem why could blizzard not implement this action. But I do hope that people would try to stick around here. I have no intention to leave even it has crossed my mind many times. I also hope intuition would hold on to the same thought. We just simply cannot afford to lose anymore players, ESPECIALLY the ones that actually bring some sort of progress on this realm. Hope something good will happen in the future just for the sake of AQ. |
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Mighty Rising is doing quite ok, but it has seen better days. Reason why i have asked demotion just a member in my guild ranks was simple. I got bored of searching ppl for guild needs, aid them to gear / enchants / gems etc to get raid and after they got gear... most ppl did join otherguild in AQ or left server... highes raider loosing time was ICC patch... I did felt MR was only a gear up guild to req and intu or then to other realm guilds.
Nowadays situation aint any better , slighly worse as all comments above tells. Solution to this has to be found or we truly end up 10ppl online sundays top hour. Kavax ur right, u can entter SW by urself freely when ever u want and u wont get ppl after u . ( but brove that to me ... i need defender achievment to my druid ;) )' I dont want any guild leaving this server cos naturally it does this server less home. Most good ppl leaves than comes. Seen that happend many times and more to come as time past. Played in this realm middleway of TBC and started over with my brother in here. AQ is home and i rather quit than transfer... cba starting all over. + where else u can have change to gank 5 horde ppl by urself at same time !!?? ;). Well everything what i want to say is pretty much said allrdy and im just repeating it but TRULY dont leav server, IMO it only makes things worse but it's every1's personal call. |
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What happend to Requiem btw? ...
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