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The massive Uldum bot problem
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Edited by Ciruza on 13/01/12 10:54 (UTC)
All mining farming in Uldum is totally infiltrated by bots... it seems like everybody knows that except from Blizzard. Even when rapporting the bots it seems like Blizzard can't find them. The same bots are all over Uldum in months 24/7.
If the chars are compromised accounts Blizzard should be able to solve the problem fast, so I suppose these bots are "normal" players using third party software. I've been playing WoW for years and can easily spot a bot. Often these chars have a very obvious pattern of suspecious gameplay. Good advice for Blizzard: I'm ready to help Blizzard for free to get rid of the bots and I know many other players who are willing to spent a little time on that purpose. |
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The fact that you are actually bothering to write all that, shows that you have no idea, what so ever, what you are talking about.
There are hundreds of servers, all with botters on them. You're practically saying that blizzard should start logging for each and every bot under suspicion, which will take up LOTS of space, not to mention the waste of time it would be due to them not being 100% sure they're monitoring the botters (otherwise they'd ban them). You'd need a staff which is 100 times bigger than their current to actually monitor stuff as well as the players are able to, hence them relying on their players to actually report botters, for them to investigate. Also, saying that they should just do ''this and that'' when you obviously don't know the capabilities of software programming, wont really get you far with blizzard :) I could make a page-long list of things supporting blizzard decisions, whilst counter-argumenting yours. Just lettin' ya know! |
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Yeah I remember reading something on MMO champ regarding the botting problem, they are trying to sort it but they can't employ thousands and thousands of staff purely to sort botters out instantly. Even then it's just not that simple.
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yeh, same old story but makes no difference on my oppinion.
I know exactly what I'm talking about :) I don't suggest that Blizz should log every bot on all servers. And even if they did, we are NOT talking about "LOT of space", compressed logfiles would never even be noticed space-wise. If a number of logfiles should take too much space blizz got both a bot problem and a hardware problem . That's crap. I notice your contradiction; first you say that monitoring is waste of time. " due to them not being 100% sure they're monitoring the botters" Hey... that's the whole idea of monitoring :) Blizzard DO NOT need 100% more staff to do this. I'm sure they already got a hard working team on this issue, but I mean there can be done other things and more things and that's why I suggest these changes. Anyway, nor you or I know about what staff is used for what purpose inside Blizzard, so stop guessing. You don't know my knowledge about programming capabilities so stop guessing on that matter too. And how far I get with Blizz about this will never be your concern when you obvious think bots are ok or don't believe in a more clean and cheat-free game. The attitude you show are the first thing to change before my suggestions can become a reality!! Let me see your page-long list of more guessing about Blizz, that would really be fun :) Would be nice to see those decisions you are talking about.. I've never seen those X-FILES :-D |
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Edited by Ciruza on 12/01/12 15:52 (UTC)
@ Benathor
I agree on that, but I can see that same bots can operate for months in the same area which tells me that a new strategy could make a change. And I still think the idea about entering a confirmation code is one of the cheapest and most effective solutions (along with other initiatives) |
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To run a company, you need money. You also need the incentive to run it.
This incentive is a quarterly/yearly surplus for it to actually make your life better. (no sane person would run a firm that doesn't earn him/her money) You need the network bandwidth to actually supply the extra logging (which you are suggesting) as well as buying lots of new hardware. You can't make guesses, since banning without THOROUGH THOROUGH THOROUGH reasoning will lose them costumers (if I have to explain this to you, I wont even discuss this further). As for your programming knowledge; you clearly have no idea what .NET is, and what you can use it for. Nor do you seem to know that to check logfiles, you need humans (employee's). I know for a fact that the blizzard CMs slack just like the usual employee's, since it's the human factor that bumps in here ;) All this effort and time could be put into improving the game for those who actually PLAY IT, rather than for those who care about their gold sack. If you follow up on what the developers actually say, then you should know that Blizzard actually do focus on new content ;) And I have a whole lot more, but I just needed to prove my point. And any person saying they know exactly what they're talking about always lies, because no one actually knows everything about something they, themselves, did not make ;) But please, stay over at the alliance side, cheers. Mýstîcãl over and out! |
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For ze newer players !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dkkf5NEIo0 |
You haven't proved anything yet and I can't take you seriously anyway. Enough from you, not from me :P Translation: "Anyone who's against my OPINION are not any to show any opinion/facts *covers ears* I CANT HEAR U I CANT HEAR U." |
No it's more of a case of no discussion to have, as you have already proved any disagreeing with you = "I can't take you seriously". Your original post and your replies that follow, are just clueless on knowledge of how Blizz appraoch this. Yes bots are bad, are Blizzard just sitting back and letting it happen without a care? No. Is it possible for Blizz to monitor each person that is accused of botting 24/7: no. Also stating bots are easy to spot, again not always the case with a fair few ones, some you have to watch for a good 15mins + to notice a pattern. Check out youtube for examples. Keeping an eye on something like that for every report would take an insane amount of manpower. But again your replies to a player above just goes to show you are not willing to listen to anything bar your own silly opinion. |
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That's your opinion and just like any other I welcome it. The case is what I've already said ealier: It starts with a change of attitude and the song I hear have been sung again and again all over and is always the same.
I try to take the discussion out on a serious basis and I knew before I wrote it that 10 pages quickly would go to waste if we start the discussion same way every time. I'm interested in finding solutions and innovative thinking and a interesting discussion. Ppl who either don't care about cheat in the game or ppl who are convinced that it can't be improved or ppl who goes after the person behind the thread instead of concentrating on content will never be interesting in my point of view. And those who only wants to ruin this thread are wasting everyones time. ....and let's go back to topic |
Patch 5.1: Everyone regardless of language background, or dyslexia will suddenly be able to speak and write English perfectly. This magical patch will be for this troll and people like him, who cannot see why sometimes players spell things wrong. As soon as anyone types anything wrong, the forum will change it to be correct. For example: Type "Nub" will auto correct to "Newbie", and "L2P" will auto become "Learn to play". Tl:dr go troll elsewhere. |
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Pretty sure no one said you are wrong haha. They said nothing can be done about it. Get badboy addon so you avoid the spam from the sellers and you are pretty much fine. Bots keep the prices down btw. We would still be paying 4-5 k per red epic gem and 150 g per stack for herbs if it wasnt for the bots. And i dont know about you but i prefer to play and not farm. |
