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Addon for Healing? (not Healbot, i'm not a clicker)
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Hello, recently i've been playing a lot on my priest which is level 58 now. I'm struggling to find a decent healing addon for people who aren't clickers.
All famous healing addons are as you already know for clickers and I honestly prefer using my keyboard. I've heard you can solve this by turning all of your spells into macros and make them this mouseover thingy. However, my question is if there's any addon that does this for me in a nicer way? Would be great to have one. Thanks in advance! |
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Why would healbot/vuh'do/grid+clique make you a clicker?
That makes no sense. There is simply no way to react fast enough with your keyboard to heal effectively. Sure it might work on 5 man, but once you start getting to 10+ it will become extremely difficult to do spot healing. Just imagine having to map all the players to your keyboard, that would be a complete nightmare. (And thats not even counting in the amount of muscle memory you would need to actually make it effective). Using mouseover macro's is quite simply as close as you will ever get it, as there is no way to make targeting effective using the keyboard. |
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I use vuhdo, but rather than using the "modifer + clicking" function in vuhdo I have made mouseover macros for most of my spells.
I suggest you do the same |
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Edited by Nuvielle on 08/01/12 16:09 (UTC)
You don't have to click on the frames to heal. I use keyboard and mouseover with Grid.
Only using the keyboard would be horrible. |
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Edited by Saphiramoon on 08/01/12 20:22 (UTC)
I thought clickers are those ppl that click their abilities on their action bars, instead of keybinding. Cant see the relationship with healing addons. I guess not "everybody know". Either way, get whichever healing frame is prettiest for you, and dont set any click-to-cast. I cant see any addon "doing it in a nicer way" for you. #showtooltip /stopcasting /cast [target=mouseover,help,nodead] Guardian Spirit That is how mouse-over macros look like: replace your healing spells instead of the "Guardian Spirit" and put it on a keybind. Whenever your mouse will hover on top of a name, you can press the keybind and it will cast the spell. Ofc, the stopcasting is not for healing spells, I have it there because I dont want to finish some cast to slap GS. Imo, especially for druids, who are very mobile healers, occupying both your keyboard and your mouse for healing is pretty meh. But well, each with his own taste! |
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-_- so whitout clicking a !@#$ how...
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blizzard default frames are fine with macros and binds.
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I've used HealBot. There's no reason to use the lcick function if you don't want to (I personally had it for Target and my right click as dispell). Mouseover-macros functions perfectly well.
Grid is, in my opinion, probably one of the best. I still sort of miss HealBot though, because it was so good at displaying buffs and debuffs. |
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I know clickers/keyboard turners with more rating than you 2.2+, so I guess you're in no position to judge anyone lol.
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This, definitely. Macros and Vuhdo. It's better than Grid if you're willing to spend some time tweaking it, for the simple reason that anything that can be done in Grid can be done in Vuhdo, and then more on top of that. You could probably configure Vuhdo to be indistinguishable from Grid if you really wanted to, though I'm not sure why anyone would want that (other than perhaps to ease the transition between the two). I have most of my heals bound to mousewheel up and down with various modifiers (like ctrl+MWD), so I technically don't ever actually click anything. |
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You know you can make those macros and just use the click interface in vuhdo? Just type the macro name into the box.
As some of the others in this thread I'm a bit confused as to what you are asking, considering the mouse-click interface you get with vuhdo, healbot, and that you can emulate with grid by using clique, is exactly what mouseover macros are - it's the same effect, just done using different methods. .... Oh wait, I started typing through an example then I realised what you were probably asking. You're not interested in using mousebindings to do the healing, you want to hover over a target with your cursor, then click a healing spell on your action bar to do the heal, right? Where I would click, for instance, Shift + Right Mousebutton to cast Greater Healing Wave, you want to press your keybinds, but without necessarily having to change targets. I'd suggest vuhdo or grid. Grid don't have a click-interface at all, and in vuhdo you can chose to ignore it. I don't know healbot at all. |
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i use blizz standard raid-frames with mouse over macros bound to my mouse so its a lot like healbot without having to update add ons every patch
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I leave the healing spells for healbot and have keybinds for other spells like Smite, Holy Fire, lightning bolt etc etc
Only time i click is for stuff i don`t use that much (Tranquility for example) Clicking Healbot is not being a clicker
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I'd say it's somewhere in between, but then I'm of the opinion that any keybind not on your mouse is kind of clicky. As is any mouse keybind that requires you to actually move a finger from its default position. |
You don't raid, so being a bit slower is okay. For heroic raiding, speed matters a lot more. Then you need to be able to run, select a target and choose a heal at the same time. You'll want either keybinds you can click while you are also clicking your movement keys and using the mouse to select a target, or you want your heals keybound to the mouse. |
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Edited by Calar on 12/01/12 08:39 (UTC)
If you're wanting to heal without using the mouse at all, then I suggest setting up macros for /target party1 up to /target party5 AND some /target raidN where n is the raid member. You can actually use these in 10man with relative ease, I for a long time had shift + 1-5 as party and ctrl+1-5 as raid covering the 10man groups. For 25 though, mousing is pretty much the only way.
MACROS If you want to use the mouse, but not click then you need a mouseover macro. I personally macro a number of spells to the same mouse key + a modifier, so for example:
It looks hectic, but I'll explain. Firstly, the #showtooltip is just as it seems, it causes the macro to show a tooltip when you hover it. It will show the correct tooltip even when you put a modifier key down (ie, shift, ctrl or alt). The /cast states that you want to cast a spell, and all the proceeding pieces between[ ] are targetting modifcations. The are made up by a number of parameters, the modifier key, the target and some restrictions on when to cast on that target. So taking the first one: [mod:alt, nomod:shift, @player] - This will target the player (ie you) when there's an alt key held down, but no shift key held down. Each of these blocks is checked, and and if its true (ie, we have the alt key but no shift pressed) it will cast the spell specified after these blocks, the FIRST spell it finds before a ; ie, rejuvenation. If the block isn't true, it'll fall through to the next block: [nomod:shift, @mouseover, exists] - Again this checks no shift key is pressed, if it's not, it will cast on the person under the mouse (character model or raid frame) IF there is one. If not, it will fall through to the next block and so on. This continues untill all blocks have been checked, if none are true, nothing happens, if one IS true, it casts the spell on that target, but then stops checking other blocks... Ok, so lets say you want to do something simple. Cast rejuvenation on your mouseover target, or swiftmend if you have a shift key down.
You can build up lots of blocks for each of the two spells and just chain them together, for example, you now want to cast rejuv on yourself if the mod key is down. Remember, the first block thats true gets executed, so mod:alt needs to go BEFORE the first block
exists is one of a number of keywords, noharm, nodead are two other examples you can chain them together with comma's. /cast [@target, exists, nodead, noharm] will only cast on a LIVING (nodead) FRIENDLY (noharm) target IF you have one targetted. If any of these things aren't true, the macro will do nothing. There's lots more info about macro's out there, googling will find you plenty. But hopefully some of this wall of text is useful |
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Your reaction rate is somewhat impaired. However, like I said; I know several people who click and that have been moderately successful in pvp (2.2k rating or around that area). So it doesn't make you terrible, just slower. But its different for different people. |
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Clique allows you to bind a spell from your spellbook to a keyboard combination (by hovering over the spell in the book and then pressing the keyboard combination). You can then hover over a unit frame, press the key(s), and your spell is cast on that unit.
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