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[PvE] Affliction in 5.0.x: A guide.
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i've seen some aff locks use lavawalker on boots.
explain ! does not compute with my logic. |
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All about the movement speed.
Also remember that low value =/= no value. At least this time round there are stats there for the movement speed, last expansion we has Stamina to go with it. |
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Edited by Akmun on 29/02/12 09:41 (GMT)
so me being a worgen and an engeneer(pardon with spelling) i can put 50haste on boots with no problem xD.
also . I hear that affliction haste cap is 33%, so after reviewing some guides. (elitist jerks , paragon) 22%-23% haste with no buffs sofices that. +5% haste aura + 3% DI making this 30-31% haste in raids. And there is eradication wich grats like 2,5% haste (constantly, even if proc, dunno how expactly to explain). than haste would hit 33%. if by any chance any of you locks understand that english. please explain if that "theory is valid" |
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There is no haste cap for aff, whatever source you heard that from is wrong. The only haste 'cap' I could conceive would be when you get sbolt to less than 1 second, with no points in bane (at which point drain soul would probably be better). Frankly, I've hit well over 100% spell haste with procs (hit over 160% the other day on madness) but I haven't noticed an sbolt under 1 second.
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Edited by Akmun on 29/02/12 10:34 (GMT)
the reason i say 33% , cuz GCD can't be reduced more by haste.(to 1 second) wich than again makes perfect sence for 1second cast time on shadow bolt. xD thanks dude. and there is also a breakpoint for Unstable Affliction at 30% haste. no haste cap it is xD thanks man. + this aff lock (guildie) seems to be going full crit. http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blades-edge/Voodooboy/advanced is it any good ? |
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Sure, there are breakpoints for Haste, but these are more points you should aim for when they're within your grasp with a very minor amount of reforging/gemming away from Hit/Intellect. They are not points at which it looses value. As a stat, Haste never, ever, drops below Crit or Mastery in value at ratings attainable with gear this expansion.
Gearing full crit as Affliction is simple idiocy. |
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1 more stoopid question.
turns out that i have problems with pets. yesterday on LFR Morchok i did 24k dps with SHADOW BITE disabled(not on avtocast). dps ok ? and howmuch does felhunter contribute to your dps ? |
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Edited by Jessicka on 01/03/12 09:28 (GMT)
About 15% comes from the Felhunter, 80% of that damage will be from Shadow Bite.
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Edited by Eskhata on 02/03/12 06:43 (GMT)
so if i had shadowbite "ON" i'd do liek 3k dps more ?
17k / 6 = 2,9ish. (not counting crits) thank god for skada. Felhunter: Shadow bite (17% total damage over period of 5minutes) comes 4th in damage list. |
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Gratz Jessicka to a job well done on this guide, and getting it (finally) stickied!
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Unstable Affliction should be clipped in the last 2 seconds, but Bane of Doom should not be clipped unless your have more powerful buffs than at the point of casting. not true... the way dots work is that if you clip it it adds durration till the last tick of the previous DoT so if you cast CoD when there is 16 seconds left the next one will last 1 min and 1 second doing damage after 1 second if you cast it with 14 seconds left it will last 1 min and 14 seconds doing damage after 14 seconds... so you can refresh it if it has 1-14,9 seconds left altough I havn't tested if you cast demon soul on the first onebbut in a fight where you can cast 3 CoD you can certainly refresh the last one early |
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Because of the long tick time clipping BoD makes no difference. If you time it with buffs then you shouldn't clip it, because you are losing a tick that's boosted by whatever damage buff you have at the time.
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Whats not true about that statement? Dots do scale with the buffs you have while you apply the dot (I'm not talking about spellpower, since they automatically adjust with your current spellpower for the next dot tick). Once you cast Demon Soul and use BoD you should not refresh it unless you have a buff that causes a extra damageoutput of >20%. If you do clip the BoD that you casted while under the effect of DS while you arn't under the effect of a damageboost you actually lose a boosted dot tick of BoD... Best example is Nefarian HC: Once you get 150 stacks of Domination you actualy should recast BoD on one target just to get 400k critical ticks for one enteir minute, and ofcourse you shouldn't clip it because that would cause a hudge damagelose |
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No, only Haste and target damage debuffs do that. Player buffs for Spellpower, Crit and %ile damage bonuses, as well as the Crit debuff are adjusted when the DoT is reapplied/refreshed. The rest of what you say is true however. |
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http://www.wowhead.com/talent#IrGr0hsGcdf0bZc how about such build for singe/2 target dps?
drain life as filler, when sb procs it got same time as talented sb, drain life makes it proc more often, more self heal, unlimited mana - no need to lifetap, dl also refresh corruption. Can also spec into improved seed sacrificing 1 pandemic point, since it's kinda wasted as it brings gcd to 0 even with 0 haste for banes. |
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Drain Life stopped being a viable filler when they nerfed DL's damage in 4.1.
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so no drainlife jessicka ? what do you use then ? shadowbolts ? I been using DL for the longest time maybe thats what keepin my dps low.
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Edited by Ursoulismine on 25/04/12 13:59 (BST)
Yes, Shadow Bolt is the preferred filler. It stacks and refreshes Shadow Embrace, which would be much slower to stack with Haunt alone due to Haunt's CD, it applies Shadow and Flame if you have the talent, it costs less mana than Drain Life and I'm fairly certain it does more damage than a full 3-second channel of DL. I can see why DL would look better for Affliction, since it gets so many increases from talents due to counting as a periodic effect, but it doesn't really do enough damage per tick to justify using it over SB, especially since Haste will lower SB's cast time but won't do anything for DL until you have a LOT of it.
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