Topic blood dks is not OP
Shaymain
Talnivarr
Shaymain
85 Blood Elf Priest
4460
why all is saying "nerf dks nerf dks" and crying noobs. why nerf dk? frost mage is very more overpower then a dk in pvp! so nah dk isnt OP!
Illasar
Hellfire
Illasar
85 Night Elf Hunter
2645
So because one class that has been moaned about fro AAAAAAGES is more overpowered, it makes you OK?

Nice logic there...
Ironiya
Earthen Ring
Ironiya
25 Blood Elf Warlock
0
Blood Dks need tuning down, I have one and yeah it's a bit easy to not die.

Imo frost and unholy is fine.
Tapp
The Maelstrom
Tapp
74 Worgen Rogue
0
silence! i kill you!!
Sozinho
Chamber of Aspects
Sozinho
85 Blood Elf Paladin
12460
they need a tune down. tanking specs really shouldnt be viable in pvp its ridiculous.

monster HP and self healing needs to have tiny dps... should be "tanking" the flag, not roflstompin the bg.
Veninroth
Kilrogg
Veninroth
85 Orc Warrior
3325
Is it that hard to read patch notes?

'Vengeance is no longer gained from being hit by enemy players.'

Blizzard knows that they are OP, one more week and it will be all over.
Croshammy
Kazzak
Croshammy
85 Tauren Shaman
2530
Edited by Croshammy on 25/01/12 06:28 (UTC)
Yesterday i was playing some games on 1400+.
In around 10 matches, 8 were against blood dk paired with rogue or feral.
It's insane. It's both funny and pathetic how much of dks has gone the easy road.
Next patch wont help much, as veangance isn't the main problem, as many people are saying.
Mastery is a problem. Those shields are insane in 2s enviroment.

Yeah, you'll go at me now: "2s suck" etc etc, but really, guys, get a grip, 70% of wow pvp community play only 2s cuz they are casual, playing for points, same as I do, as I don't have time to play seriosly.

Point is, Blood dks ruin every fun for a casual PvPer, which is majority of WoW community.
Soku
Dragonblight
Soku
85 Goblin Death Knight
9090
Play at higher ratings .. and no caster should ever die to a blood dk
Croshammy
Kazzak
Croshammy
85 Tauren Shaman
2530
25/01/2012 07:21Posted by Soku
.. and no caster should ever die to a blood dk


I am not a caster, I am enhancement. Check before laying down stupid "fact".
Tell me, what should i do? Cast shocks every 5 seconds and doing 4k dmg on him? Casting lightning bolts at him, doing 4k dmg?
And when I get to point that I kited him for some time, doing this incredible dmg, which he neglected with just one rune tap, he gets to the point where one death strike land on me and all my incredible, 1 min work, has gone to nothing.

(1 min is a joke ofc).

You can refuse to accept it, but blood dks are unbeliveably OP at the moment against melees, they ruin any casual PvP experience. 2s suck, i know, but it is, on the other hand, the most played bracket.
Mastery is problem, it's good for PvE, but PvPwise, it needs to be reworked.

It's hypocritical to deny it.


Arkibald
Balnazzar
Arkibald
85 Orc Death Knight
14330
^Rogues are even better.. They win against blood DKs.

But the vengeance fix is fine. I dont care, random BGs be retards moaning of stuff they have no clue about.
Soku
Dragonblight
Soku
85 Goblin Death Knight
9090
25/01/2012 07:34Posted by Croshammy
.. and no caster should ever die to a blood dk


I am not a caster, I am enhancement. Check before laying down stupid "fact".
Tell me, what should i do? Cast shocks every 5 seconds and doing 4k dmg on him? Casting lightning bolts at him, doing 4k dmg?
And when I get to point that I kited him for some time, doing this incredible dmg, which he neglected with just one rune tap, he gets to the point where one death strike land on me and all my incredible, 1 min work, has gone to nothing.

(1 min is a joke ofc).

You can refuse to accept it, but blood dks are unbeliveably OP at the moment against melees, they ruin any casual PvP experience. 2s suck, i know, but it is, on the other hand, the most played bracket.
Mastery is problem, it's good for PvE, but PvPwise, it needs to be reworked.

It's hypocritical to deny it.


blood is op yes, but some specs counters others. thats wow for u.
Dristor
Khadgar
Dristor
85 Human Warrior
10565
Edited by Dristor on 25/01/12 09:28 (UTC)
Looks like you do no pvp then...Mages/rogues are beatable by any class atm, not true for 1 on 1 against equally geared BDK
Dristor
Khadgar
Dristor
85 Human Warrior
10565
Not moaning against their damage mittigation(it's a tank after all) but the selfhealing and the damage should be nerfed.
Croshammy
Kazzak
Croshammy
85 Tauren Shaman
2530
25/01/2012 09:14Posted by Soku


I am not a caster, I am enhancement. Check before laying down stupid "fact".
Tell me, what should i do? Cast shocks every 5 seconds and doing 4k dmg on him? Casting lightning bolts at him, doing 4k dmg?
And when I get to point that I kited him for some time, doing this incredible dmg, which he neglected with just one rune tap, he gets to the point where one death strike land on me and all my incredible, 1 min work, has gone to nothing.

(1 min is a joke ofc).

You can refuse to accept it, but blood dks are unbeliveably OP at the moment against melees, they ruin any casual PvP experience. 2s suck, i know, but it is, on the other hand, the most played bracket.
Mastery is problem, it's good for PvE, but PvPwise, it needs to be reworked.

It's hypocritical to deny it.


blood is op yes, but some specs counters others. thats wow for u.


Indeed, classes have their counters, but the point is, blood dk can be less geared and less skilled and they can win against warrior/enh/ret, and that, my friend has nothing to do with countering.

Countering = only when two players facing each other are on same gear/skill lvl, then one class can counter another if blizzard gave them the possible tricks to do that. (example: warr vs frost mage)

Get your heads out of the sand and start noticing it..
Your mastery is insanely OP. Absurd.


Zakoski
Talnivarr
Zakoski
85 Tauren Death Knight
6220
your tears are substanence....

also not exactly a valid arguement, in 2's just kill the other guy first, no vengence = low damage and a concentrated effort will down a blood DK. the mastery shield is no use against casting damage and rouge mele *can* stun lock a DK out from being able to self heal.

go away and L2P before whining that they need a nerf.
Mortanius
Shattered Hand
Mortanius
85 Night Elf Death Knight
3275
Blood Dks are pretty good against some classes. Answer is kiting. If you do not know how to kite/slow, you will lose.

Still a rogue can burst a tank spec down WTF is up with that? Rogues should be weak against plate users with their tiny daggers and hands.
Croshammy
Kazzak
Croshammy
85 Tauren Shaman
2530
Edited by Croshammy on 25/01/12 13:09 (UTC)
your tears are substanence....

also not exactly a valid arguement, in 2's just kill the other guy first, no vengence = low damage and a concentrated effort will down a blood DK. the mastery shield is no use against casting damage and rouge mele *can* stun lock a DK out from being able to self heal.

go away and L2P before whining that they need a nerf.


Tbh, it's bloody insane how some of you keep continuing talking the same !@#$ all over again.

In this response, you are talking about rogue who can stun lock.
First: rogue cannot stun lock.
Second: Not every 2s team is consistent of rogue.
Third: I don't whine, I haven't come here with; zomg nerf, I came with a constructive response.
Fourth: You responding with "L2P" just shows that you havn't got any clue about this.
All of you keep playing blood and keep talking how it isn't op, when it bloody is, atleast in 2s, which are, as I stated before, most played bracket.
Blood dks and blizzard making them this way have ruined the last two months of casual pvping.

Blood dk is, at the end of the day, spec for bad dks. It's a way that even bad dks can go high up on the ladder.
Sonae
Auchindoun
Sonae
85 Night Elf Death Knight
8800
Edited by Sonae on 25/01/12 14:26 (UTC)
First: rogue cannot stun lock.


LOL

Second: Not every 2s team is consistent of rogue.


LOL

It's a way that even bad dks can go high up on the ladder.


LOL
Croshammy
Kazzak
Croshammy
85 Tauren Shaman
2530
25/01/2012 14:24Posted by Sonae
First: rogue cannot stun lock.


LOL

Second: Not every 2s team is consistent of rogue.


LOL

It's a way that even bad dks can go high up on the ladder.


LOL


So, this is you being constructive?!

Rest my case!

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