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New Alliance cities after the end of Cataclysm
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Greetings, folks!
There are some questions that bother me. Theramore is going to get destroyed, that's for sure already... There are some questions that remain - where are the human survivors going to relocate? Will they go to Darnassus - which already accepted the Gilneans? Will they go to Stormwind - which already has the problem with homeless people and accepting Theramore survivors will be a great burden to the kingdom... or... will there be another city erected? Like ... New Theramore? Do you think that we (ie Alliance) have the chance to get a new city in the post-Cataclysm era? I guess that it's high time for the Alliance to get something big finally... I would personally prefer a big city on Pandaria... or possibly something like New Hearthglen in Northrend... I guess that the current Alliance fanbase that screams "favoritism" will be satisfied only with a city - and not with a tent camp or something like this... So... knowing the storyline of the Warcraft universe - what is the prospect of finally getting a new Alliance city? |
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I'm truly hoping the coming back of Kul'Tiras. Lore-wise it would make more sense to appear it now , where are going the people of theramore if not to the homeland of jaina proudmoore? (don't forget that in the alliance i think very few or no one knows about her involvement in her fathers death and even if they do, maybe she will became so coldly hearted that she will simply take over her father's place).
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Edited by Hordika on 29/01/12 08:39 (UTC)
Now you are just jumping to conclusions based on one bit of info. Who ever said we will lose Theramore simply because it gets destroyed?
Who isn't to say that it get's rebuilt? But if we lose it, I really hope they relocate to Kul Tiras, after all, with her brother dead, Jaina is next in line to rule that nation after her father's death. That will also finally bring Kul Tiras (The last of the seven Human Kingdoms) into the game |
Now you are just jumping to conclusions based on one bit of info. Who ever said we will lose Theramore simply because it gets destroyed? So the horde destroys a city and let it be rebuild afterwards ? thats strange :p
Let's just hope that we won't gain it like the other ones : Lordaeron:went horde Gilneas : plagued by the scou..forsaken ! Dalaran: went neutral Stormwind : came with out a king and suddenly we got one with out knowing why... Alterac : traitors theramore : bunch of refugees . |
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You argue that it would be a strain on Stormwind and the Alliance to take in the refugees from Theramore because they already have problems, yet you suggest Theramore may be rebuilt. I think it would be a hell of a lot easier to not only allow the refugees refuge in Stormwind but cheaper than rebuilding and garrisoning a new Theramore.
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There are likely a lot more large towns in Azeroth than there are in the game world. There's probably enough room to house the fallout from Theramore.
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Edited by Romanth on 31/01/12 10:36 (UTC)
If their are surviavors muhahahah :)
But if yo uare lucky you will get Stormgrade as well |
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So the horde destroys a city and let it be rebuild afterwards ? thats strange :p Who said they let us take anything, who isn't to say we drive them off? And BTW, since it's Garrosh, it's most likely that he simply attack and destroy the town for fun then leaves. |
You have read what Blizzard has said on the matter, right? "Raised to the ground" is not the same as "Attacked but survived" |
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Edited by Tarcane on 01/02/12 15:38 (UTC)
Like other people in this thread have commented, it's a city built on a tiny piece of rock with the ocean on one side and Horde territory on the other. There most likely won't be any survivors. (Except Jaina, who can teleport out)
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Edited by Mhorgoth on 01/02/12 16:43 (UTC)
Lordaeron:went horde HI. U missed 1-2. Stormgarde - destroyed, conquered by nomads ( trolls, ogres, pirates) Menethil - here u got 1 :P . and in barrens, and in various zones there are alrdy building huge alliance cities, or fortress. (Valiance keep in northrend, In South Barrens, that alliance fortress :P ) etc. |
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Edited by Malizïa on 01/02/12 16:46 (UTC)
Who said there'd be survivors?
I wouldn't mind seeing some totally NEW Alliance settlements founded by settlers or originally military outposts whom saw heavy civilian traffic. Or maybe introduce new towns that we never really heard or knew about? (Warcraft is a lot bigger than the world we see now anyhow xD ) |
Lordaeron:went horde the entire problem is that theramore SUPPLIES all the bases in southern barrens and all that, no theramore = no kalimdor human front, which means in lore the horde wins that war hands down. we shall see how this develops in MOP |
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Kul'tiras would be my guess for a new alliance city if theramore is not rebuilt however I have a bad feeling that most of the sunken boats and washed up boats are from the kultiras fleet and the fact they have been inactive for so long makes me expect they have been wiped out by the cataclysm or may be wiped out soon. If kultiras was gone though I would have expected at least a small amount of info about it so lets hope they have stuff planned for it.
theramore survivors really do not have much hope of escaping unless by sea, I doubt the horde will leave the exit points of dustwallow free though and I highly doubt they will survive anyway since a city full of humans is good prey for who? Sylvannus. I bet she will get her filthy claws in there ressurrecting more troops, maybe she will lead a naval assault whilst the orcs lead a ground assault. I can't see the plague being used though if they do attack at the same time unless the orcs have no choice but to allow her to use it. Maybe theramore will still stand though, it is likely that the night elves will perform a counter attack in azshara which would force the horde to retreat and defend azshara since it is next door to orgrimmar. |
theramore is meant to rival orgrimmar in strength, it has towers defending it and a great huge series of gates and draw bridges, it has a huge population and was mean to be the equal of orgrimmar as it had the lordaeron survivors, also it has a huge harbour and therefore plenty of ships, the city state is further protected by a massive swamp full of wild animals and wet land with mud which makes supply lines and assaults incredibly impractical the idea that the horde would win in a fair fight sounds silly, maybe in a siege but their are alliance allies that can answer the call, which makes it even harder for me to guess how theramore can loose oh.. and possibly the strongest sorceress on axeroth is the leader their and should in theory be able to level entire armies, now I seriously dislike Jaina but she is one of few characters that single handedly survived a fight eith the lich king. oh and she has showed multiple times the abilty to mass teleport, in fact I wonder, why does she not teleport to the major cities and instant blink them to the major conflict zones? she teleported a major alliance army from undercity back to stormwind and repeatedly mass teleported forces at mount hyjal while fighting demons |
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Edited by Calthric on 03/02/12 01:28 (UTC)
Whilst that is certainly true, Theramore is one of the few strongholds left in eastern Kalimdor if we're to bear in mind recent events. The battle in the Barrens did not go as well as planned, thanks to the ridiculous plot device of an entire dwarven fortress - known for their near impenetrable defences - being blown up by...a lone goblin. I'm just hoping a similar plot device isn't in store for Theramore, though I won't hold my breath given how Garrosh managed to destroy an entire regiment of seasoned night elves by bringing exotic creatures from Northrend to fight on his behalf. Even though the difference in climate would have severely weakened and/or killed the beasts in the first place. |
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thats a silly question, don't forget that the alliance people are stupid as hell, we won't see anything coming until the main tower is burning, and of course they are going to destroy the main gates with goblin cheese or cheese goblin ... oh.. and possibly the strongest sorceress on axeroth is the leader their and should in theory be able to level entire armies, now I seriously dislike Jaina but she is one of few characters that single handedly survived a fight eith the lich king. blizzard tend to forget that, in fact probably horde would not have a chance if jaina was already using her mass teleport abilities in this war. but i guess blizzard forgot whaat she actually can do . And she also got the capacity to freeze an entire room, including the world's best shaman... i'll tell you, when she will wake up, she will mostly be one of our best tools in this war (if blizzard don't screw her up).
din't know it was a human kingdom , since that place is ruled by a dwarf... |
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Edited by Thunderbraíd on 03/02/12 11:43 (UTC)
Menethil is also technically part of the Kingdom of Khaz Modan. It just happens to have an incredibly significant human population. It's probably autonomous governance wise as well.
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Edited by Calthric on 03/02/12 15:32 (UTC)
On a side note, to counter any possible arguments about Jaina's teleportation spells being 'overpowered' bear in mind that Rommath would make for an excellent counter, had he been used more often. He too is a powerful spellcaster and it wouldn't be a stretch to have him pull off something similar.
I'm not a fan of Jaina's recent antics, I'll admit. Though unless the Horde begin to lose something of note I'm not going to be impressed. How many iconic settlements are the Alliance expected to lose or see damaged? I fear the developers are approaching this from the logic that because Stonard was heavily damaged, Theramore - as it's 'twin' - needs to be damaged as well. |
