Topic Bring class+legendary
Jajai
Aggramar
Jajai
55 Goblin Death Knight
0
and not the player =/

Well thats why I quit raiding. feel so damn useless when I bring my DK to a raid, when I could play Rogue/mage etc and do far more dps.
Psychology
Moonglade
Psychology
78 Undead Priest
860
You've had your chance to shine at some point so you need to let them have theirs
Jajai
Aggramar
Jajai
55 Goblin Death Knight
0
But itsnt it blizzards goal to have not like that?
Xanjori
Earthen Ring
Xanjori
85 Troll Rogue
3765
No. Legendaries are OP as hell and Blizz have acknowledged that.
Cristiansen
Twisting Nether
Cristiansen
85 Goblin Shaman
2160
I don`t see how a lvl 55 dk can raid :)
Jajai
Aggramar
Jajai
55 Goblin Death Knight
0
Edited by Jajai on 30/01/12 06:54 (UTC)
? Point still stands

EDIT: Obv not posting on my main..
Jessicka
The Sha'tar
Jessicka
85 Human Warlock
9680
Edited by Jessicka on 30/01/12 09:14 (UTC)
If you think you're loosing your place to someone because they have the Legendary, you're not. There's a reason they have both a spot and a Legendary.
Dorus
Saurfang
Dorus
23 Blood Elf Priest
0
30/01/2012 09:13Posted by Jessicka
There's a reason they have both a spot and a Legendary.


You mean besides being in cahoots with the raid leader...
Xanjori
Earthen Ring
Xanjori
85 Troll Rogue
3765
30/01/2012 09:13Posted by Jessicka
If you think you're loosing your place to someone because they have the Legendary, you're not. There's a reason they have both a spot and a Legendary.


Do you just like posting this in different threads? Cos its got sweet F all to do with what the OP actually wrote.
Jessicka
The Sha'tar
Jessicka
85 Human Warlock
9680
30/01/2012 09:28Posted by Xanjori
Do you just like posting this in different threads? Cos its got sweet F all to do with what the OP actually wrote.

Ok, well if all he's wanted for is DPS, then obviously he's not trusted to do something useful with the utility his class provides.
Jajai
Aggramar
Jajai
55 Goblin Death Knight
0
Edited by Jajai on 30/01/12 10:39 (UTC)
I am not being left out from raids because of bad performance. I used to raid heroic, but now I just cant be bothered anymore. I could pull 26k+ DPS on heroic neferian before that crazy dmg buff (No army).

But right now If you dont play certain classes you will not be anywhere near the top of the meters, even when you still consider all classes in the raid played perfect and to their limit.

EDIT: Basically the guild I raided in, we had 3 active raiding dks, me being one of them.
1 have gone blood spec, other have rerolled rogue, and me I have quit.

I know this is not only effecting DKs.
Jessicka
The Sha'tar
Jessicka
85 Human Warlock
9680
If you're only raiding to DPS and epeen on meters, you have no business in normal or heroic mode. DKs offer fantastic utility in the form of Death Grip, Chains of Ice, Anti-Magic Zone, Pestilence, Chillblains and Mind Freeze/Strangulate as well as great survivability from AMS and IBF. I've sat people in favour of DKs on many occasions to make use of these abilities, so there's plenty of reason to have them in raid.

Also, looking at raidbots, they're doing distinctly average DPS; I see no problem with average DPS.
Jajai
Aggramar
Jajai
55 Goblin Death Knight
0
and warriors can bring rallying cry but do about 8-9k more dps. .. I am aware of what my class brings to a raid but that shouldnt punish my dps
Perryn
Eonar
Perryn
85 Night Elf Druid
6865
What exactly is the point here? Looking at raidbots DK's sans legendary (obviously) still have both dps specs above arcane mages, ele shammies, boomkins, destro locks, heck, even posterboy shadowpriests are slightly below DK's. All classes that have access to legendary. Are you trying to say that DKs are somehow struggling more than other classes?
Jajai
Aggramar
Jajai
55 Goblin Death Knight
0
No im not and I already said that im aware that its not only dks like this.

What I wish this game would be like .. Any Class/Spec, viable to be #1 on dmg meters.
Kvaern
Sunstrider
Kvaern
85 Blood Elf Paladin
8750
No im not and I already said that im aware that its not only dks like this.

What I wish this game would be like .. Any Class/Spec, viable to be #1 on dmg meters.


You will just have to live with that not being the case. The dev team has a clear bias as proven by the recent ret gurthalak nerf.
Raiju
Quel'Thalas
Raiju
85 Goblin Shaman
9810
No im not and I already said that im aware that its not only dks like this.

What I wish this game would be like .. Any Class/Spec, viable to be #1 on dmg meters.


You will just have to live with that not being the case. The dev team has a clear bias as proven by the recent ret gurthalak nerf.


Ret isn't allowed to top the meters, didn't you learn this at the beginning of wrath?
Hukilyou
Shattered Hand
Hukilyou
85 Tauren Druid
13010
Just stop slacking and get an alt and farm legendary on it...
Jessicka
The Sha'tar
Jessicka
85 Human Warlock
9680
No im not and I already said that im aware that its not only dks like this.

What I wish this game would be like .. Any Class/Spec, viable to be #1 on dmg meters.

So what? You're complaining that some specs are below average? O.o
Khazoh
Dentarg
Khazoh
85 Blood Elf Rogue
2660
not really sure what the TS is on about, in my 10 man raiding guild we got 2, fantastic death knights, one being frost and the other unholy and we're all competing around 35~40k dps, depending on the fight at least but lets look at dragon soul as a raid for DK's shall we?

1. AMS during morchok's thingie on the ground to stay and dps - amazing, sure as a rogue i can do the same once with CoS but its on cd for the 2nd one
2. they both put out some sick aoe say during madness and what no - amazing.
3.DG adds on gunship or CoI for the adds, again i could kidney but not from range. - amazing.

those are just things on the top of my head but keep in mind that with all that utility, they both still provide massive dps and as some people stated above, Icebound F. helps alot , also Cr's, honestly TS, Dont moan about what you dont have and look at all the amazing things that you DO have!

// Khazoh.

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