Topic Please god nerf guards or just get rid of them
Gougerr
Kilrogg
Gougerr
85 Goblin Rogue
3820
I know its been complained about alot, but I can't attack anyone in Goldshire/stormwind without being swarmed by guards. 85's summon 4 friends to deal with me while hiding in goldshire, not daring to step out of it, and when I go outside guard range they stop attacking and run back. It's !@#$ing pathetic.

BTW this isn't just on my rogue, on DK/huntard too
Zulltor
Burning Blade
Zulltor
76 Troll Priest
1080
Edited by Zulltor on 03/02/12 23:24 (UTC)
Umh no,guards dont need nerfing. They are quite fine,if you want to kill stuff do BG's, find random people while exploring etc.

Its a city,town,fortress. Its supposed to be well protected not facerolled by 1 guy that thinks he is cool with epics. Guards are the only NPC's in the open world that pose a threat anymore,and thats exactly what WoW needs. Not 10 guards that hit you for 800 dmg every 3 seconds on autoatack, its a guard not a training dummy.
Vanguar
Frostmane
Vanguar
85 Draenei Shaman
4980
Edited by Ancestros on 03/02/12 23:30 (UTC)
Guards?? its just 1 lvl 85 guard thats attacking you, when you kill it a new one comes out...and why nerf them, I think they should be buffed, to easy to kill and not fun for low lvl ppls that taking quests or turn them in to see there questgiver is died and need to wait like 10-15 min before he/she respawns.
Gougerr
Kilrogg
Gougerr
85 Goblin Rogue
3820
Well seeing as no one leaves these "sanctuarys" it's the only resort, I can't find anyone outside of towns.
Vanguar
Frostmane
Vanguar
85 Draenei Shaman
4980
03/02/2012 23:33Posted by Gougerr
Well seeing as no one leaves these "sanctuarys" it's the only resort, I can't find anyone outside of towns.


Well then why do you even attacking it, if there are no ppls there? LOL!!!!
Darlon
Argent Dawn
Darlon
85 Human Warrior
1185
Guards are okay as they are. Raiding Cities are meant to be hard and a team effort, not by four level 85's. But I do agree guards outside of the Cities could do with a nerf.
Gougerr
Kilrogg
Gougerr
85 Goblin Rogue
3820
03/02/2012 23:35Posted by Ancestros
Well seeing as no one leaves these "sanctuarys" it's the only resort, I can't find anyone outside of towns.


Well then why do you even attacking it, if there are no ppls there? LOL!!!!


I just said that the only place to find people is in these cities/towns
Sancta
Nordrassil
Sancta
85 Undead Priest
4455
I think they should be nerfed. When was the last time anyone ever saw a city-boss raid? Yea i don't remember too and i miss them alot.

P.S Yea i noticed his dumb-!@# mistake too.
Shazu
Kazzak
Shazu
85 Blood Elf Warlock
2125
I think they should be nerfed. When was the last time anyone ever saw a city-boss raid? Yea i don't remember too and i miss them alot.

P.S Yea i noticed his dumb-!@# mistake too.


I saw 3 happening in SW in one week some time ago. Two times, players ported onto the keeps roof and rushed in, the last time they got ported to the auction house and obliterated all ~100 players for around half an hour, then they got bored and crusaded against vrynn.

I figure there's less because everyone hangs around in og and sw and attacking them is hard.
Mevta
Dragonmaw
Mevta
85 Undead Warlock
3140
I think they should be nerfed. When was the last time anyone ever saw a city-boss raid? Yea i don't remember too and i miss them alot.

P.S Yea i noticed his dumb-!@# mistake too.


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonmaw/Mevta/achievement#95:a619
Mevta
Dragonmaw
Mevta
85 Undead Warlock
3140
04/02/2012 01:15Posted by Shazu
last time they got ported to the auction house and obliterated all ~100 players for around half an hour, then they got bored and crusaded against vrynn.


AHAHAHAHA. now that sounds like an alliance town. how pathetic.
Vanguar
Frostmane
Vanguar
85 Draenei Shaman
4980
04/02/2012 00:53Posted by Sancta
I think they should be nerfed. When was the last time anyone ever saw a city-boss raid? Yea i don't remember too and i miss them alot.


The only reason why alliance have a hard time doing For the Alliance is because Garrosh Hellscream´s chamber are to close where all hordes gather together at the AH...soon when we fly into his chamber, 5 sec later the place are swarm with hordes and we wipe.

Atleast horde got it easy, flying on the side of Stormwinds walls to Varian´s castle, fly in, got alot of time to build up defences and just have bigger chance of killing Varian.
Sancta
Nordrassil
Sancta
85 Undead Priest
4455
04/02/2012 01:58Posted by Ancestros
I think they should be nerfed. When was the last time anyone ever saw a city-boss raid? Yea i don't remember too and i miss them alot.


The only reason why alliance have a hard time doing For the Alliance is because Garrosh Hellscream´s chamber are to close where all hordes gather together at the AH...soon when we fly into his chamber, 5 sec later the place are swarm with hordes and we wipe.

Atleast horde got it easy, flying on the side of Stormwinds walls to Varian´s castle, fly in, got alot of time to build up defences and just have bigger chance of killing Varian.


What? I didnt even mention anything faction specific i was speaking generally, but i can see how that would be a problem.

My point being is that i have only ever seen one city raid since the release of cataclysm on my server, yea there have probably been more, but they used to happen quite frequently even in vanilla.
Lestele
Mazrigos
Lestele
74 Troll Druid
1755
Lol as a low level player it's annoying that all the minuscule alliance settlements have some 85 in it. The 85 is not going to stop an 85 player anyway. (Unless he respawns instantly).

Last week I accidentally ran into that walled alliance settlement near the vortex in STV. I was only like 5 yards into it. I blinked, realizing where I was. Saw all the level ~40 npcs. Decided to leave, when BLAM got one-shotted by an 85 ranged guard that came out of nowhere.

This means no level-equivalent player can attack any level-equivalent town or settlement that has PvP guards in it. Save a few exceptions. Where's the fun?
Skrauhg
Blade's Edge
Skrauhg
85 Worgen Death Knight
9565
The guards are there to defend the towns. If they kill you, they are clearly doing their job.
Leezo
Laughing Skull
Leezo
85 Blood Elf Warlock
2580
the guards are definately too tough fighting ine 1v1 never mind the instant respawn is rediculas. or guards that spawn out of no where with their cross bows it does happen.

Also as the player above says... settlements should only be defended by guards with a max lvl of 5lvls above the surrounding mobs. makes world pvp viable for those below 85. this wont affect begginer settlements like goldshire as pvp is turned off in those

Remove instant guard spawns and nerf them to a reasonable lvl
Skrauhg
Blade's Edge
Skrauhg
85 Worgen Death Knight
9565
Perhaps the settlements should be defended by guards depending on qho is attacking. So any level will have a challenge to face. Not oneh itters, though.
Saldor
Kilrogg
Saldor
85 Human Paladin
12960
Edited by Saldor on 04/02/12 10:29 (UTC)
They do need a nerf actually.
Raiding cities was all Wpvp back in the day, it was a challenge for all who enjoyed pvp but now that they can hit for 15k a hit is just plain retarded.

And don't bring the "guards should defend their city" argument a hero is stronger than any normal guard by lore.
Skrauhg
Blade's Edge
Skrauhg
85 Worgen Death Knight
9565
Guards are trained to defend their home. In other words, they are trained to fight against armies and powerful individuals, such as adventurers, even if it means lots of guards against one adventurer.
Lestele
Mazrigos
Lestele
74 Troll Druid
1755
Those 85 guards even insta-spawn against attacking creatures such as the Woodpaw Gnolls attacking Camp Mojache in Feralas.

They are surely something new, after Cata launched I remember doing PvP in Camp Mojache on my shaman against a group of alliance that tried to kill me while I was inside. The guards weren't there back then.

That world PvP element is now impossible.

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