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This is *NOT* a whine thread, i am not a troll, so please don't flame this thread :)

Before I begin I am MORE than aware of the talents not being 100% solid and they may change, but as they are shown now I would like to elaborate.

First of all their first tier talent.

Dark Regeneration: Heals the warlock for 50% of their maximum health and increases healing taken by 25% over 20 seconds. (This i imagine with the word "over" will be a 50% of health as a HoT effect.) 3 min CD

Mortal Coil: Causes the enemy to run in horror for 3 seconds and heals the warlock for 25% of their maximum health. 45 sec CD

Spell drain: The next single target spell or ability focused at you does no damage and heals you for half the damage it would have dealt. 15 sec CD.

Dark Bargain: Absorbs equal damage to 20% of your maximum health. 15 sec CD

Grimoire of Sacrifice: You sacrifice your demon to deal increases damage and health lasts 30 seconds. 30 Second CD.

Also to add Archimonde's Vengeance: Curse an enemy causing them to suffur 25% of all damage you take.




Now first of all, we all know warlocks have a large HP pool, whether this will be the same in MoP no one knows, but having a larger HP pool will benefit more with their talents.

I have picked these just from what i have seen, all of these talents are able to be active at the same time as each other in a talent specc. One from each tier.

Spell drain is the most interesting, allowing for the next single target spell to heal the lock for half the amount of damage it would have done and on a CD of just 15 seconds. Will be great for incoming burst e.g. Ambush, Frost bolt shatters, mind blast crits etc.

The amount of healing that can be done to locks next patch will be really insane amounts and they deffo i think will be the tank casters of the patch.

If mixed with Resto sham, Resto sham may have the talent Echo of Elements, having a chance to duplicate the heal they put on the warlock.


Just take a look at the talents and see what you think? I can deffo say locks probably won't be downed in the opener next expansion and RLS or monkLS will make me wana roll up a lock or sham to play with.



So what are your thoughts on their talents? I'm not QQing btw i just find them interesting.

They'll be irritating targets but really it's just too early to tell what most MoP classes will be like, we'll have to wait till beta and see stuff at least partially in action.

Yeah but just looking i've never seen anything have so much incoming heal capability, imagine lock/lock/healer in 3s? rofl forced to nuke healer or gtfo

Yeah at the moment things look dumb, but so much can change. Ring of Frost was called like Wall of Fog or something and was just a line that slowed people. Mirrior images teleported the caster around etc. They're all very beta talents/ideas that we just can't speculate much more on than preliminary "This is is going to be dumb".

Then again mages spell is going to be one of the greatest depending on it's limitations, it's basically the hourglass ability in the new dungeon, I wonder about its impact on CDs used etc. (Don't want to derail from your main point of warlocks, I can just relate better to the mage changes)

Yeah haha some spells i have seen look very new, i just hope everything that was clunky and out dated is beging revamped.

The healing seems too much, yes. You would think Blizzard had learned from the S9.

Yeah I'm also not really happy with the amount of self healing that there seems to be in MoP, warlocks look like they won't even need healers unless we are going back to a time of unreal burst again like s5.

Bloodlock, oh well....

They get bubbleheart and we can't do it :(

10/02/2012 07:30Posted by Rockavenger

They get bubbleheart and we can't do it :(

that ability only negates damage. you can still CC or or interrupt them. It's a bit strong, but it's like ferals frenzied regeneration as of now. when he pops that, just CC it and hit something else.

You seems to be forgetting that in MoP, you will be forced to choose some cc and let go on the others. Currently an affliction lock have instant howl of terror, death coil and silence from felhunter. They would all be gone except death coil would now be named Mortal Coil and be rdy more often.


Warlocks as it is now is balancing around kiting well, if you dont do that you will get trained to death quite fast. So the survival is needed if you are removing vital CC from the class.

Thank you for your feedback on the Warlock talents, however as you have mentioned the talents are not set in stone right now and may change. You have to remember that the Mists of Pandaria talent calculator was placed on the website towards the end of November last year and it has not been updated on the website since. During these past few months of development though, there would have been major changes that are not able to see yet.

Well OP I will make it more clear to you so you don't have to worry...

Thank you for your feedback on the Warlock talents, however as you have mentioned the talents are not set in stone right now and may change. You have to remember that the Mists of Pandaria talent calculator was placed on the website towards the end of November last year to show all the people what awesome abilities their classes will have and go for the Annual pass and it has not been updated on the website since because of the same reason abviously. During these past few months of development though, there would have been major changes that are not able to see yet again for the same reason.

Also be aware that once MoP launch we will have a hotfix ready with all the Major Nerfs to classes because what we are focusing last 4 years is to balance Arenas and 1vs1 pvp. So rest assure

Monks will counter everything, including locks.

it be nice to have some kinda off heal/shield. atm we got a void shield and really how many use a void now a days! mages got theres. we still only wear light armor. just meens that we don't have to play affliction for heals!

To be perfectly honest, I don't like new talents as lock that much.

Hate the fact that in tier 2 I'm forced to choose between coil, terror and shadowfury, as atm I have all of that as destro and I'm having great fun.

Makes a change from falling over in a light breeze when you don't have a dedicated healer and get prevented from kiting for any period of time.

It'll be nice to have a viable none-affliction pvp spec too.

I will be abit semi-sarcastic and semi-serious, But reading the OP post i think MoP lock will be how a curent DK works in WoW. But the MoP lock wont walk around in plate ...

Nobody mentioned the fact fear will be spammable without even having to cast it at just the cost of 10% hp?

To early to tell bla bla bla...well who thought it was a good ideea to put a self healing ability on every tier they got lol. I mean the hell lol,if u thought blood dk self healing is OP just wait for lock if these talents go live.