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Most FUN healer
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1. Shaman
2. Paladin 3. Druid 4. Priests of both varieties Mainly based on how interesting the various mechanics feel. Druids don't really have a lot of interesting abilities (it's very "I cast HoTs. They tick."), while I personally feel that the various priest mechanics don't really fit together into any kind of whole. Paladins work well, but feel a bit more "shallow" mechanic-wise than shamans. Shamans do suffer a bit from having too damn many things to pay attention to if you want to play it perfectly, though. For those who doubt that, I present to you the theorycrafting regarding when you should or shouldn't use Unleash Life: http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/defektunge/WoW/UnleashElementsHowTo.png
Then you're horribly bad at it or only ever playing LFR. In LFR I go 1 button spam just for the lulz, but that won't get you very far on normal or heroic modes. |
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Disc Atonement
Disc Atonement Disc Atonement Non-atonement Disc Holy pala Resto druid Holy priest I'm struggling to level my shaman still :(. |
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1. Restoration shaman
2. Holy priest 3. Restoration druid 4. Discipline atoment priest 5. Discipline nonatoment priest 6. Holy paladin |
Disc Atonement I'm quite curious as to why you think disc is more fun than holy? Disc forme is a nice spec, but I prefer having more spells to manage on top of my mana, it sort of adds another dimension to healing. |
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Edited by Saphiramoon on 12/02/12 18:58 (UTC)
I was holy for 2.5 years (TBC+half wrath) and disc ever since. I was a decent holy priest and I still am if I can be bothered to respec. Which exactly are the extra spells holy has and uses? Poh spam-PoH spam Coh on cd - Penance on cd Renew (?) - PWS (I can tell you I use more PWS than a holy priest does use renew+PWS together) All single target spells holy uses, disc uses too. We deffinetly use more greater heals. PoM on cd - PoM on cd GS-PS DH - Barrier Chakra? You activate it pre-pull and rarely ever change it. Lightwell? I wouldn't call a click every 3 mins game breaking in terms of difficulty. I use Power Infusion more often. Holy words? It's mostly sanctuary in raids anyway. I smite/holy fire as disc and use archangel about as often as you use holy words. I have no clue why ppl have the feeling holy uses more spells than disc. Truth is in raids you will spam 3 buttons like all the other healers, and spice them up with few medium cds for the "element of skill". Manage mana? Holy mana regen is the most retarded of all speccs, it requires 0 interaction from you: you do not need to refresh water shield every few seconds, do not need to watch rapture icd every 12 seconds, you do not need to keep lb up, and you don't even need to judge - albeit nowadays, judging once every minute comes close. All you can do as holy is stack spirit till it bleeds out of your ears and not spam flash heal or PWS like a moron. Sure it's a crap mana regen system, but hey, it's passive, you only need to specc and gear for it, there's hardly any other choices involved. All in all I prefer to play disc because it's more dynamic and it doesn't constantly feel like I need to throttle my abilities - either because I need to wait for my mana to regen or because chakra is on cd and by the time it does come off cd it wont be needed to switch anymore anyway - of if its not on cd, you know that 10 seconds after you switched to serenity you will regret it and want to be back in sanctuary, but weheey, chakra says fu. Some ppl might like throtling, I like to be able to adapt on the need of the moment - tank healing, raid healing or even a bit of dps. After playing disc, holy for me feels excruciating slow. Man, that was the wrong question to ask me. all the considerations are a personal pov: maybe I just lack patience so much that sometimes I dont even have it to wait for the bosses to actually do their dmg and get a bit of a headstart :P. |
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I completely disagree with the mana regen part - If you're using every gcd as holy you are going oom very fast, interaction doesn't matter. As disc you can run with under 2k spirit and still spam all your spells (except shield) pretty much on cooldown.
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Edited by Saphiramoon on 12/02/12 19:04 (UTC)
Which is exactly what I said. As holy, you have no choice: throttle spells or you oom. Can you use any particular skills to regen more mana as holy? Nope, you just need to limit your casts. As disc you can have more mana at your disposal, but you need to work actively for it: !@#$ up rapture and you're just as oom as you would be as holy. Spells don't cost less as disc than as holy, we don't have a single mana reduction talent that you don't have, so why would we run oom less than you? It's because we gain more mana than you do, but hey, we do something active for it, which is watch rapture - and tbh, if you look around, you will see that classes that do have an active system of mana regen have less mana issues: disc, shamans and druids, all need to actively use something for their regen. Why? I dunno, this game is balanced around a rather low level of skills, so I'm guessing we're balanced around morons that hit rapture by accident 3 times in a fight. |
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Edited by Heinlech on 12/02/12 19:12 (UTC)
Well I guess that's where our opinions divide. I prefer having to throttle my spells as holy because it feels like if I don't I am capable of crazy output (while soon going out of mana of course) so it is fun for me to attempt to get close to that fine line. As I said I think it adds another dimension in the form of knowing when dumping a lot of mana is worth it and where it is not. I guess I'm just stuck on the old t11 form of healing. I preferred the triage form of healing back then.
Also I disagree with the rapture part of discipline. I don't think it's as important as you make it out to be unless you run with like 1,6k spirit. |
Well, what other means do we have to spend less mana as disc? xD Spells cost the same, with the difference of penance/coh, which both have cds so they dont make such a huge difference. Trust me, rapture is the difference. They didnt nerf it for nothing. As for the whole triage thing, you didn't try hardcore triage if you didn't play disc at the beginning of cataclysm. Trust me, when I felt like crying and giving up on my priest, I specced holy and it was a breeze in comparison. As for knowing when it is worth dumping mana, I do the same as disc: when I know aoe dmg is incoming I toss few shields to the limit I know my mana will hold (and at 5.2/6.3 mana per piece its not cheap). Think I can do it recklessly as much as I want? 10 shields will absorb 320k dmg but will cost me 55k mana. You can heal for same with 5-6 pohs at a bit over half the price. |
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Oh believe me I know how messed up disc was in 4.0.3. 7k shields and penance doing the same healing as at level 80... but to be fair, every healer in 4.0.3 except holy paladins didn't have an easy time in heroics with WotLK-heroic trained casuals.
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1. Shaman and disc priest tie
2. Holy paladin 3. Holy priest 4. Resto druid |
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Edited by Etapic on 12/02/12 22:04 (UTC)
1 Druid
2 Atunement Disco 3 Non Atunement Disco 4 Holy pala 5 TC Shaman 6 Holy priest 7 Shaman Excuse meh? not to mention our tracking... |
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This is now a Restoration Druid appreciation thread.
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