Topic [Suggestion](Advanced) PvE item usage balance in PvP
Tyressé
Zenedar
Tyressé
85 Goblin Priest
4685
Ty guys, appriciated
Alowne
Hellfire
Alowne
90 Human Paladin
10125
I "Like" it! and requested sticky couse maybe like this Blizz sees it and actualy reads it!
Great job m8!
Flambe
Mazrigos
Flambe
85 Troll Mage
3430
13/02/2012 00:53Posted by Alitah
Hmm, isn't a simpler solution to simply make gear stats standardized in arenas? Of course, this would mean eliminating the gear grind, but I don't see that as necessarily a bad thing...

The problem is a lot of people have fun just collecting gear instead of having fun actually playing the game. For some gear is the means, and for others the end.

What they could do is to make a pve equivalent of resil. Just like resil does nothing in pve "dragon slaying" rating would do nothing in pvp. Or just ban >378 ilvl pve gear in arenas like in the NAO invitationals.
Akoda
Ravencrest
Akoda
90 Draenei Shaman
8495
If PVP items are not viable in Raids, then why should PvE items be viable in Arena?
Ban them all together.
Tyressé
80 Blood Elf Priest
0
Blizzard doesnt like to remove stuff competey nor do i, they love to limit so do i
Decka
Stormscale
Decka
90 Orc Warrior
11245
I think it would be much easier: PvE items not allowed in rated PvP enviroments (Arena-RBGs).
Why force pvpers into pve when its not even viceversa.
Decka
Stormscale
Decka
90 Orc Warrior
11245
If PVP items are not viable in Raids, then why should PvE items be viable in Arena?
Ban them all together.


this!
Hopélol
Outland
Hopélol
85 Human Paladin
5760
Edited by Hopélol on 20/02/12 12:22 (GMT)
You're waiting on blue post so here :

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3388949609

The blue posters won't comment on this (according to the topic)

On a side-note.
Players yust ''dinged'' 85 shouldnt be able to do arena..You want your CP for the week, grind BG's 50 CP a win. No need to increase there shifty blue gear to 390 as we worked harder for the gear then some random yust getting to level 85 and getting hes geared enhanced.

I'd say: Bann PVE Items in Arena If you yust dinged have fun grinding BGS :)
If you yust lvl 85 and want to do PVE, there is a iLVL-restricition on Dung's, Heroic's and LFR should be same as in Arena..
Psychospe
Jaedenar
Psychospe
85 Blood Elf Hunter
9580
The problem with PvE gear is clear, but this does not fill like a solution to me. It over-complicates things in vain.

Simple solution: do not allow procs, form, from PVE gear in a rated environment.

They disabled engineering items in rated pvp (witch were nowhere near as game braking as this new pve gear), then they can take the time to disable the legendary and pve trinket procs in pvp.
Tyressé
80 Blood Elf Priest
0
It is sad that i wont get a blue post even tho i just want to hear what my idea is missing to be implemented..

@Psychospe
Banning all procs does make arena more balanced, but not perfect. Some classes really DEPEND on some trinket procs to do damage, and some dont. You'll be just buffing some classes while nerfing others. We need a general PvP item restriction..

@Hopélol
People who just dinged lvl 85 SHOULD BE ABLE TO do arena mate. Some BATTLEGROUPS have sides that lose almost %70-80 of the time. You cant force people to do win 32 Battlegrounds with a %20 win chance. That makes 160 Battlegrounds which is around 20 minutes per BG, that makes 53 hours of battleground play just to CAP an arena rating, GEESUS man, its impossible. I'll quit the game instead...

Btw thanks to all, you are suppoting my idea in general even tho you are adding stuff to it, we still are on the same track.
Candý
Outland
Candý
90 Night Elf Druid
4270
Blizzard should hire you NOW
Tyressé
80 Blood Elf Priest
0
21/02/2012 15:15Posted by Candý
Blizzard should hire you NOW


I'm flattered :), i wanna be a game designer and been writing this kinda stuff since TBC days, not even received a blue post mate :) Ty
Kyrena
Draenor
Kyrena
90 Draenei Shaman
11965
Too complicated. Keep it simple. Increase the effect of resilience in PvP in order to make sure PvE items are obsolete. Otherwise people will always find exceptions that cause trouble.
Ashtari
Defias Brotherhood
Ashtari
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
3960
13/02/2012 23:46Posted by Tyressé
Whats fun in that, everyone has same HP same Mana same SP.. Everyone dies with a standart rate overall, if they make this noone would play arena

...but this is already mostly true! PvP gear is already standardized, you just have to grind for it.
Tyressé
80 Blood Elf Priest
0
22/02/2012 00:21Posted by Kyrena
Too complicated. Keep it simple. Increase the effect of resilience in PvP in order to make sure PvE items are obsolete. Otherwise people will always find exceptions that cause trouble.


Mate its being too comlicated doesnt interest you as a player. You wont write the algoritm code in C++ so dont worry about it. You'll just see an item level over the item and thats it.

Tyressé
80 Blood Elf Priest
0
22/02/2012 09:38Posted by Ashtari
Whats fun in that, everyone has same HP same Mana same SP.. Everyone dies with a standart rate overall, if they make this noone would play arena

...but this is already mostly true! PvP gear is already standardized, you just have to grind for it.


Ppl arent using PvP gear it isnt standart thats why

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