Topic Word of Glory & BoP in 3s with a ret paladin.
Zykaz
Ravencrest
Zykaz
85 Human Hunter
1880
Please, keep this civilized. i don't want this thread to turn into a ragewar of all retris below 1000 rating saying they are underpowered, and the rest just being FOTM rollers who keep themselves thinking they are completely balanced. This is not normal;


I'm playing triple DPS, Hunter/Rogue/Feral.

Whenever we meet a Retri, we've lost, simply because of all of the BoP's, bubbles and WoG's around.

We are doing good against RMP, even to some extent RLS (playing at 1800 MMR) but today we went from 1780 rating to 1650, just because we're meeting ret paladins in 90% of our battles, and they can faceroll us.

Resto shamans with their life saver Spirit link and ret paladins with their life saver WoG & BoP, for some reason BoP is always the last !@#$ to be dispelled.

Happened THREE TIMES today, that we had a disc below 5% and he got a WoG to above 40% ...

Please, how are we supposed to have a chance against this? is our combo simply just too bad?
Hottagë
Sylvanas
Hottagë
85 Human Paladin
10325
Rock, paper, scissors? You say you're doing fine against RMP, an RMP team will cause a lot of headaches for a team with a Ret paladin (dispels and steals).
Getcleaved
Arathor
Getcleaved
85 Night Elf Warrior
3615
Tranqshot lol wtf
Mazken
Arathor
Mazken
85 Human Paladin
11545
Oops, wrong char ><

BoP -> Tranq shot?\?

Ret team -> Focus Ret?/? (Ret self heals aren't as strong as off-heals)

Enjoy 1650+

Zykaz
Ravencrest
Zykaz
85 Human Hunter
1880
Just did that, WoG critted himself for 70k while my feral died,

BoP was dispelled after dispelling 4 other spells, so he was back at full HP.

and seriously, !@#$ off with these retarded answers like "tranqshot lol wtf" as if i'm the overpowered class.
Zykaz
Ravencrest
Zykaz
85 Human Hunter
1880
just happened 3 more times. !@#$ing rets... outhealing us with WoG and nothing else, even with CDs up...
Voorwaarts
Archimonde
Voorwaarts
85 Human Paladin
13740
@Zykaz

When the Ret's sacred shield pops you need to use silencing shot, otherwise just tunnel him, also your supposed to play triple dps as ret rogue hunter not with a feral.
If many teams have rets and you really can't do anything about it just dodge em => stop tagging. Also failing at 1k8 mmr means your winning against terribads who don't cc and lose against teams that have reset abilities, the problem your team has is that you're just bursting your cc chain is obviously not good enough otherwise you would have facerolled to 2k already.
Kaeryn
Saurfang
Kaeryn
85 Draenei Paladin
5735
Edited by Kaeryn on 14/02/12 07:05 (UTC)
Learn to tranq shot BoP and split damage, one class on the ret others on the kill target

OH MY GOD A 2 TARGET ZERG TACTIC IN TRIPLE DPS
Kimaz
Kazzak
Kimaz
85 Human Paladin
5545
13/02/2012 20:18Posted by Zykaz
Whenever we meet a Retri, we've lost, simply because of all of the BoP's


Are you talking about the BoP that has a 3 minute cooldown? LOLJK DOUBLE DETTERENCE!

Back to the serious part, kill the !@#$ing ret. We have horrible survivability, ans the heals are 50% smalleer on us.
Turanduban
Sylvanas
Turanduban
85 Blood Elf Paladin
15065
Wog has a 10 sec cd if specced and eats up the 3 hp. If the paladin chooses to heal with his hp, that means he isnt doing dmg to u. You can dispell his bop/freedom/wings. If paladin healing annoys you that much cc him when trying to burst something. You can time your burst on a target with a cyclone(instant one from your feral) on the paladin for example. As triple dps you need to sap something, force trinket on healer with blind/trap/cyclone and switch and burn him in smoke and full kidney. Instead of making random posts about some class being op, rather try to ask for advice about how to deal vs specific setups.
Triumvir
Ravencrest
Triumvir
85 Human Paladin
13380
Edited by Triumvir on 14/02/12 17:30 (UTC)
13/02/2012 20:18Posted by Zykaz
Please, keep this civilized. i don't want this thread to turn into a ragewar of all retris below 1000 rating saying they are underpowered, and the rest just being FOTM rollers who keep themselves thinking they are completely balanced. This is not normal;


Hard to keep it civil when from the get go u made a point that rets are not normal and are the favorite of the month class (Wich is just lolgazmic tbh).



13/02/2012 21:12Posted by Zykaz
as if i'm the overpowered class.


If u actually played a decent combo (and were good) u wouldent have to ask this question.

As for ur Tranqing BoP, I fear that comes down to RNG, u could get it on the first tranq, or on the second or the last one. My advice? tranq the guy ur gonna nuke from the start so u remove the buffs, so when the BoP lands u can take it off ez, or if u think that its too much effort just have ur Feral instant cyclone him to death, OR! (Omg so many options I know!) have ur Feral cc the Ret when someone is on low HP so he cant heal him? U chose.

All in all, get a new team and stop crying about Ret Paladins, I am sure if u ran up against any decent Rogue or Feral ud see what a real problem looks like.
Zykaz
Ravencrest
Zykaz
85 Human Hunter
1880

All in all, get a new team and stop crying about Ret Paladins, I am sure if u ran up against any decent Rogue or Feral ud see what a real problem looks like.


What do real problem look like? the only problems we are having are ret pallies and resto shamans since with either of these in the team it seems that its impossible for either of them to die.


Are you talking about the BoP that has a 3 minute cooldown? LOLJK DOUBLE DETTERENCE!

Back to the serious part, kill the !@#$ing ret. We have horrible survivability, ans the heals are 50% smalleer on us.


Yes, i'm talking about the BoP that has a 3 minute cooldown and instantly counters our team, if we have to stay alive for 3 minutes we've used all of our CDs and my feral has to sit in bear form untill he dies.

Cooldown doesn't matter to us as triple dps, everything is used once unless you have preperation, readiness or cold snap.
Zykaz
Ravencrest
Zykaz
85 Human Hunter
1880
Ty to everyone who gave me tips on how to play the combo btw, yes we are new at this pvp thing and we're not very good yet :)

oh and for the rest, you suck at trolling :)
Mírion
Outland
Mírion
85 Human Paladin
12650
CC Ret & healer? Repetence the healer and Scatter trap the Ret?

Also, I love seeing all the Rets that's gotten 2200 as tripple dps, hillarous how a comp like that can carry you all.
Axcel
Defias Brotherhood
Axcel
85 Human Paladin
2540
CC Ret & healer? Repetence the healer and Scatter trap the Ret?

Also, I love seeing all the Rets that's gotten 2200 as tripple dps, hillarous how a comp like that can carry you all.


I love seeing all those FotM rerollers to holydin last season when they were the OP healing class, do you know anyone like that Mirion?

Triple dps I don't see as a problem as a concept, who said all comps have to have a healer? It is like when people complain about healers in 2v2 I mean we all pay subs right? Can we choose who to play with?

I am sure there are plenty of classes that have carried holydins in the past rogues/dks for instance. Go make more videos Mirion for your fanboys and leave the rets to those that play ret in arena.

(I don't play ret in arena unfortunately only for the extra points, when I have played for points ret rogue does often result in some crazy off heals, but as others suggest if you heal you can't bring the pain for another 20 seconds or so)
Spoldoon
Scarshield Legion
Spoldoon
85 Human Paladin
6860
13/02/2012 21:12Posted by Zykaz
Just did that, WoG critted himself for 70k while my feral died,


I'm not going to pretend to have much experience with Ret in PVP since it's my offspec... but how the hell does a Ret self heal for 70k? I don't think I've seen WoG crit higher than 35-40k on a self heal.
Aountrio
The Maelstrom
Aountrio
85 Human Paladin
8105
when sending out your GOAK opening your CD & none dispell wings + pvp trinket a Ret can heal himself for 90K seen it happen.

but it can happen only once in a fight

for the OP. why cant you just train the pally?

when he DS go defensive wait for 8 sec than take him out.

also splitting damage can also be usefull against that team.
Sinbreaker
The Sha'tar
Sinbreaker
85 Human Paladin
5780

I'm playing triple DPS, Hunter/Rogue/Feral.


A hunter complaining about HOP? Seriously!
Facemelter
Zenedar
Facemelter
61 Human Death Knight
160
I play a lot better 3 dps team, and we get totally countered by some retri teams (with holy paladin healer mostly). But that's life. Learn to dodge queues.

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