World of Warcraft

Allright, Word of Glory started out as a funny joke, but the fact that a Retribution paladin who is supposed to do damage, can actualy critheal a friend for 100k+, that is just retarded in my opinion. A resto shaman or a resto druid have this spell called Nature's Swiftness as you may know, which got a 2minute's cooldown. That Make sense because the spell is pretty powerful, so the thing i dont understand is that a ret paladin who does so much damage can have a spell simulary to Nature's Swiftnes every 20second, it is just retarded. And i can't really see this affecting PvE content so much if you gave it a higher cooldown, and it would balance out PvP more. So please developers of World of Warcraft, concider it, i'm a very unhappy customer. Season 11 sucks, kkthxbye

15/02/2012 14:56Posted by Phunck

A resto shaman or a resto druid have this spell called Nature's Swiftness as you may know, which got a 2minute's cooldown. That Make sense because the spell is pretty powerful,

3 minutes for resto druids. All it's really good for are instant cyclones - whereas Feral get them every 10 seconds. I love my class so much.

every 20second

Fairly sure WoG has a 10 second CD as ret.

15/02/2012 15:09Posted by Tuskem

every 20second

Fairly sure WoG has a 10 second CD as ret.

yup selfless healer lowers the CD by 10 seconds plus buffs the heal by 50%. But ill state this YET AGAIN, if you nerf/remove WoG then how exactly will rets be compensated with regards to peels?

15/02/2012 14:56Posted by Phunck

Allright, Word of Glory started out as a funny joke, but the fact that a Retribution paladin who is supposed to do damage, can actualy critheal a friend for 100k+, that is just retarded in my opinion. A resto shaman or a resto druid have this spell called Nature's Swiftness as you may know, which got a 2minute's cooldown. That Make sense because the spell is pretty powerful, so the thing i dont understand is that a ret paladin who does so much damage can have a spell simulary to Nature's Swiftnes every 20second, it is just retarded. And i can't really see this affecting PvE content so much if you gave it a higher cooldown, and it would balance out PvP more. So please developers of World of Warcraft, concider it, i'm a very unhappy customer. Season 11 sucks, kkthxbye

Fyi, the only time the word of glory will crit that high is when the paladin is at 35-30% health or below because he will have the healing increase from Sacred shield (Which only pops every 60 seconds.). Also, if you actually are smart enough to control him around that health range he's dead.

Oh right, I forgot. A mage isn't supposed to beat a ret are they. /end of sarcasm.

15/02/2012 15:39Posted by Dalrian

how exactly will rets be compensated with regards to peels?

They shouldn't.

Ret Paladins shouldn't have great peels, because that would lead to even more homogenisation of the classes. That's also what makes WoG fine.

Sure, the ability is really strong, but they sacrifice damage and the rest of the class is balanced around this ability. Ret Paladins are a really special class, and one of the few remaining classes which are not way too much alike the other classes.

They have insane burst, compensated by low sustained damage, and they have great healing, compensated by horrible control. That is what makes the class balanced, and removing of nerfing WoG would ruin the way the class is, and it would force Blizzard to buff something else to basically transform Ret Paladins into Warriors with Mana.

Actually the sustained damage right now isn't low at all.

im not talking about duels, thats easy enough, but in arena it's fairly retarded

15/02/2012 14:56Posted by Phunck

Season 11 sucks, kkthxbye

Let me get this straight.

1. you complain about ret paladins
2. you say the season sucks. because of ret paladins.

lol I can tell you rets aren't op at all, there are much much worse things ruining s11.

Just treat the ret as a healer and you should be fine I.E either train him or keep him locked down either is good.3v3 I have no clue but it feels like 2s thread to me.

As for the burst its easy to predict and easy to counter by almost all classes.

when a class is forced to go defensive the pala shouldn't be able to do heals like that, it's not fair that other classes that get forced to go defensive don't have a powerful instant heal, saying you sacrifice damage is no excuse for it healing that much, when you go defensive you don't worry about the damage you do just surviving and when they can heal like this it isn't fair

if it's RBG's, 5v5, 3v3, 2v2 or even a duel, the WOG of a Retribution Paladin should have a increased Cooldown.

15/02/2012 16:23Posted by Windchill

when a class is forced to go defensive the pala shouldn't be able to do heals like that, it's not fair that other classes that get forced to go defensive don't have a powerful instant heal, saying you sacrifice damage is no excuse for it healing that much, when you go defensive you don't worry about the damage you do just surviving and when they can heal like this it isn't fair

It's not fair that you can reset your cooldowns.
It's not fair that ferals have instant cyclone.
It's not fair that a resto druid hot is laughable.

Life ain't fair chap.



Also, just an fyi, because we have such a heal, or actually, because we can pull this kind of heal off (while using cds mind you), we are missing some other things that rest of the classes have (spammable cc's, snares/slows).

15/02/2012 16:29Posted by Phunck

if it's RBG's, 5v5, 3v3, 2v2 or even a duel, the WOG of a Retribution Paladin should have a increased Cooldown.

They tried that. There was not a single ret paladin above 2.3k rating at that point. They gave us 10sec off CD because of it. All in all, not a good idea.

Randomly gemmed 40 mastery gems in your gear might be the issue seeing int>mastery hehe