Topic Ret vs Unholy
Rockavenger
Bronzebeard
Rockavenger
85 Dwarf Paladin
5500
Hey peeps,

got obliterated in a ydays duel vs an unholy DK from my server (he had 90% HP in the end).

Now, I know I played wrong (popped only AW for late heal, but it was already too late ... hello necro strike), but, I'm here to ask, in 10 duels, who would win more, an UHDk or a Ret?

Thank you.
Rockavenger
Bronzebeard
Rockavenger
85 Dwarf Paladin
5500
Oh common peeps, don't be shy :)

I'm just asking for your opinion, I won't argue against or for it.

Hazelol
Twisting Nether
Hazelol
85 Blood Elf Paladin
7220
Edited by Hazelol on 15/02/12 14:16 (UTC)
The frostmage would win.

Edit: Probably the paladin tho. Rets are pretty strong solo tbh :]
Gigana
Stormscale
Gigana
85 Tauren Paladin
4025
I don't duel the pro duelers (the ones sitting all day in Dueltar) but I can't remember the last time I've lost a 1on1 vs uh/frost DK.

Basically, spamheal yourself a lot (repentance + spam flash heal works, too, and so does warstomp + flash heal) with WoG, kite the DK around if necessary, stun his big pet/gargoyle and kite them with holy wrath, use gladiatorlossa addon to know when he pops icebound fortitude so you don't waste your stun, early HoJ to force early trinket, arrange big heals with WoG + wings combo, etc.

The UH DK simply shouldn't be able to do enough dmg to drop you if you keep healing yourself a lot and chipping at him.
Bloodmuffin
Bronzebeard
Bloodmuffin
85 Blood Elf Paladin
5845
Retribution, easily. Remember to instant cast fear/Holy Wrath his pet.
Baltimus
Lightbringer
Baltimus
85 Human Paladin
3245
Edited by Baltimus on 16/02/12 11:01 (UTC)
Its a hard fight with no rooms to make mistakes, but if u play correctly, Ret win always.

Just Fear hes Pet while bursting.
After hes Magic Shell use wings; sometimes they just gonna w8 to use it for the Wings only, Just use it when he is bursting.
If u wing, A good DK will Strang u; Just trink it out of it. (Dont worry about the pet stun, Last 2 sec)
Just prefend him to Heal him self in Lich Born; Turn Evil, Rep, Hoj... And while hes CC, Heal ur self.
Get out of hes Anti Magic Zone.
Fear hes Gargoyle if he isnt in Lich Born, To prefend allot of DMG.
Dont forget to WoG your self under 30%, If u are specced into it.

Thats the most tips i can help u with it. :)
Bridgey
Outland
Bridgey
85 Blood Elf Paladin
7695
If the DK gets his zerg off really early they can burst you down + necro spam you so your heals become useless but usually you can kill them (only times you tend to lose is if you get a CS parried/dodged or you get no hpower procs to get wings/zeal/inq up :D


but ye I ain't 1v1'd a DK in a while.
Egtheliona
Spinebreaker
Egtheliona
6 Human Mage
0
Edited by Egtheliona on 16/02/12 17:45 (UTC)
With or without CD's? With CD's it's quite easy, even if it's just Zealotry.
Slimpurt
The Maelstrom
Slimpurt
85 Blood Elf Paladin
7855
DK will win, a really good unholy DK will completely smash a retri to the ground.
Bruceelee
Terenas
Bruceelee
21 Human Paladin
0
Edited by Bruceelee on 17/02/12 04:30 (UTC)
Yes. a Very Good DK is very hard to beat. Because before you prepare your HP ,you're down on your health.

Hard to say really.
Most normal answer would be : Depends on a player skills.

Skilled DK > Retri
Skilled Retri > DK

Skilled DK =?= Skilled Retri.
Kaperman
Ravencrest
Kaperman
85 Human Paladin
7060
Lay on hands ftw.

And bubble.

Fear his pets and lichborn.

Gg.
Sinbreaker
The Sha'tar
Sinbreaker
85 Human Paladin
5780
Lay on hands ftw.

And bubble.

Fear his pets and lichborn.

Gg.


This...

Never lost to a frost dk yet and i a pretty crap when it comes to duels.
Rontyel
Argent Dawn
Rontyel
85 Draenei Paladin
2365
Put your faith to the light, and all is possible.
Silverfling
Spinebreaker
Silverfling
85 Dwarf Paladin
7165
Hi, just wanted to ask that could ret fear DK when he casts lichborne?
Bridgey
Outland
Bridgey
85 Blood Elf Paladin
7695
17/02/2012 11:58Posted by Silverfling
Hi, just wanted to ask that could ret fear DK when he casts lichborne?


Yes.
Bridgey
Outland
Bridgey
85 Blood Elf Paladin
7695
Edited by Bridgey on 17/02/12 13:40 (UTC)
ok just had a 1v1 against a 2.2k+ unholy dk and he kinda owned me :D dodged 2 cs's and parried another 2 left me with like a 130k necro stack and he didn't even have to lichborne heal.

(I don't use LoH or bubble in 1v1's tho)

Ok just had round 2 and i kicked his !@# cus I crit and proc'd stuff.
Bruceelee
Terenas
Bruceelee
21 Human Paladin
0
Edited by Bruceelee on 17/02/12 16:30 (UTC)
17/02/2012 13:38Posted by Bridgey
(I don't use LoH or bubble in 1v1's tho)

i also don't use LoH in duels ( i use it after to heal the 1 who lost) ,but you could alow yourself to bubble ,as it's alowed in Arenas to.
Kaperman
Ravencrest
Kaperman
85 Human Paladin
7060
ok just had a 1v1 against a 2.2k+ unholy dk and he kinda owned me :D dodged 2 cs's and parried another 2 left me with like a 130k necro stack and he didn't even have to lichborne heal.

(I don't use LoH or bubble in 1v1's tho)

Ok just had round 2 and i kicked his !@# cus I crit and proc'd stuff.


No surprise you can't beat him if you don't use any defensive cooldowns.
Bridgey
Outland
Bridgey
85 Blood Elf Paladin
7695
ok just had a 1v1 against a 2.2k+ unholy dk and he kinda owned me :D dodged 2 cs's and parried another 2 left me with like a 130k necro stack and he didn't even have to lichborne heal.

(I don't use LoH or bubble in 1v1's tho)

Ok just had round 2 and i kicked his !@# cus I crit and proc'd stuff.


No surprise you can't beat him if you don't use any defensive cooldowns.


I always see bubble/loh as unfair spells to use in duels ofc in arena I use bubble.
Mírion
Outland
Mírion
85 Human Paladin
12650
The Paladin should win if you wait for CDs, freedom kite Necros off and fear pets should mitigate all the damage when he pops CDs.

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