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Dk's survivability is a joke
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Edited by Nakatoir on 17/02/12 14:54 (UTC)
The mechanism of defensive cd's usage is broken.
I came to around 1500 in 2s and I can't pass it. I win one, then lose two. I keep getting rogue teams and they <snip> me all over. At the start I need to use icebound fortitude which requires runic power which I don't have. Next moment I need to sacrifice my ghoul, which, as you know requires runic power too. When I heal myself with death coils, I also need runic power. Not to mention I waste my lichborn for heals. Like every team I face force strongly defensive playstyle which leaves me with close to zero runic power to attack. Most of the time, I'm struggling to even get my gargoyle out. I have a feeling that I'm handicapped right from the start. I think mechanism of usage needs to be changed and icebound and dark pact needs to be free of using runic power. Until that happens, I guess I'm forced playing with healer in a long, boring matches. Why hello there, just ignore me ~ Bad language edit ~ Nakatoir |
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The mechanism of defensive cd's usage is broken. trinket the first kidney smoke and then ibf the second hard no? |
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Edited by Draccul on 17/02/12 06:29 (UTC)
trinket the first kidney smoke and then ibf the second At that moment, my partner is in cc chain. Do you think this would fix the incoming dmg. I still cannot go in dps race against two dps, I need to run, kite and heal with death coils, which is kinda impossible against rogues with 70% passive speed reduction (which is patheticly OP) and shadowstep. I lost 6 matches yesterday, 3 of them were against some rogue/rogue team. EDIT: Don't go off topic, as this isn't some rogue qq, this is a topic about way of using dk's defensive cd's. |
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[quote] trolololo kidney - 20sec cd ibf - 3 min cd balance |
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I'm not even joking here but any dk team with out holydin is almost a free win. For exsample even if priest break from our cc he simply is too much behind in healing.(I play ret hunter)
Palas ofc are whole new deal with buble and instant heals that make dk go full hp |
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Well, as I stated, I play with dps all the time. I guess I'm forced to play with healer. |
85 Undead Rogue
6810
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Edited by Proxynorks on 17/02/12 07:36 (UTC)
trinket the stun if u see the mage and rogue pop shadow dance or icy veins. Problem solved i think its just a l2p issue. "2s" >.>
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Don't be ignorant, it's not the "epic" L2P issue. I'm talking about way of using dk's cooldowns, but every bloody rogue that comes here doesn't get it and thinks this is some kind of attack on them. Relax rogues, this isn't about you. |
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85 Undead Rogue
6810
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Why would you attack my class when u cant even break 1.5k rating in 2s? Don't be silly its a obv l2p issue.
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Edited by Draccul on 17/02/12 07:47 (UTC)
You are just an ordinary elitist douche. You don't even understand what I'm talking about, you just decided to come here throwing your rating bash and usual L2P argument and yet you are so clueless to even comprehend what this thread is about. |
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85 Undead Rogue
6810
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Edited by Proxynorks on 17/02/12 08:15 (UTC)
You are just an ordinary elitist douche.Dks survivability is fine you just need to learn to use it properly. You obv dont with that rating when u have problems breaking 1.5k rating. I am not being an elitist. The problem is that you dont know how to use them, and thats my point. Tell me being elitist when u were bashing my class? You are obv mad. Instead of trying to fix something thats not broken, I am telling u l2p. |
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I am sorry but this has to be said - it's an issue with you, not the class.
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death knights are actually quite bad at tanking physical dmg, its not exactly front page news anymore.
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I didn't bash your class. Look at original post. I expressed my thoughts on my defensive cds which requires runic power which i don't have, and if I use it, I left with no runic power and I need it for gargoyle which is my dps boost. Mechanisms are broken to some extent and they need some adjustments. |
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85 Undead Rogue
6810
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I'm talking about way of using dk's cooldowns, but every bloody rogue that comes here doesn't get it and thinks this is some kind of attack on them. |
the problem is those mechanics are meant to supplement death strike healing, but since its a colossal waste of time now for 2 runes, you end up relying on them far too much, i think blizzard specifically designed it this way since they gutted glyph of succor.. several patches ago now. the other problem is even if you do have the runic, decent rogues will dance garrote on you in a bomb, cant summon ghoul, cant lich, cant deathpact, cant even death strike because you'd be disarmed anway. |
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85 Undead Rogue
6810
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and btw the trick is knowing when to go offensive and defensive with some arena experience you can easily see when the burst is coming and trinket out of it or save runic power for defensive CDs the mechanisms arent broken thats my point.. You just need to know when to use what and when to go offensive and defensive in different situations
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