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WOW's actual size
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Have you ever wondered how big the WOW universe is to scale? The size of New York city? A whole state? (probably impossible but maybe if you add it all up, but a small one though)
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http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/large-video-game-worlds2.jpg
There's a comparisson. (wow without expansions) |
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using the archy addon (which measures distances to digsites in yards), I flew to the very northern point of Kalimdor with the Uldum River Delta digsite active, and the distance was about 10 miles (after converting yards into miles)
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Yeah, but with some of them they are just larger images.
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62 000 squaremiles :D
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Edited by Micomicona on 22/02/12 15:10 (UTC)
That .jpg image is absolutely wrong and I can't understand why it has become so normal just to throw it like if it was a correct measurement comparison.
Do you really believe a world like Warcraft (even without expansions) is 0.1 percent the size of a game like Elder's Scrolls II? Impossible. The numbers given in that image are based on in-game measurements which are a random proportion determined by the programers with no correlation to a) the real world and b) other games. |
Yes it is. But this is because the areas in daggerfall are procedurally generated. Which is why it could be pretty much as big as you want. You can explore every square mile of daggerfall but it's all generic content generated based on set parameters. |
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Edited by Flemischdk on 22/02/12 15:47 (UTC)
well i think you should read bookjs it took the nightelves a few days running from almost at zin azshari to mount hyjal between it their were many more cities if you read a bit lore you notice stuff are 1. no ingame 2.not where they suposed to be for example , somewhere are hillsbrad foothills their should been a small village named hasic (not ingame) and it took them 1 day (maybe more but can't remeber well) to fly with a gryphon to wetlands so my geusse its, it might be about the same size as our planet earth, maybe bigger yet for gaming purposes? the world has been scaled down heavly -edit :tol barad is totaly at the rong place for example |
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http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/c/ca/LordaeronLoC.JPG
Tol barad's all !@#$ed up :P |
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That .jpg image is absolutely wrong and I can't understand why it has become so normal just to throw it like if it was a correct measurement comparison. You have never played daggerfall i assume then, don't be so ignorant next time |
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Edited by Micomicona on 22/02/12 17:25 (UTC)
You have never played daggerfall i assume then, don't be so ignorant next time It's not me the one its assuming anything, but you, so ignorance falls on you. And please, if you are going to answer to one of my posts either contribute something or don't say anything. Yes it is. But this is because the areas in daggerfall are procedurally generated. Which is why it could be pretty much as big as you want. You can explore every square mile of daggerfall but it's all generic content generated based on set parameters. In that case Minecraft should be there too since it is also generated on the fly with the map as big as 235 petabytes (in Alpha). But that's precisely the point of it: if Daggerfall or Minecraft maps are build like that, on the go, they cannot be measured alongside static maps like Warcraft, Farcry or Paradise. Even if they were, still stands that measurements are aleatory conventions made by the developers, so ingame standards of measurement cannot be extrapolated to other games in order to compare world sizes. One feet in WoW does not measure the same as one feet in Farcry. |
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22.4 Gig according to my install.
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Read somewhere that it would of taken two weeks hard riding to cross the barrens if it were real scale... Yea... I'd say it's pretty damned big.
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Edited by Firela on 22/02/12 16:53 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure they're fairly similar. Considering both the wow characters and the farcry avatars move at (perceived) human speed then one foot in both games will be approximately the same since it takes you a similar time to move that distance. So let's say it takes you a few hours to go from one side of azeroth to the other (imagine there's no need to cross the maelstrom) then you'll need several months (maybe even years?) to go from one side of the daggerfall-available part of Tamriel to the other . Yes, it is procedurally generated on-the-fly but it doesn't change the fact that the game world is that big. |
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Edited by Micomicona on 22/02/12 17:19 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure they're fairly similar. Considering both the wow characters and the farcry avatars move at (perceived) human speed then one foot in both games will be approximately the same since it takes you a similar time to move that distance. So let's say it takes you a few hours to go from one side of azeroth to the other (imagine there's no need to cross the maelstrom) then you'll need several months (maybe even years?) to go from one side of the daggerfall-available part of Tamriel to the other . But that is only a perception, not an objective way of measuring a distance. I propose we see it from this angle: Imagine some developer somewhere is creating an MMO about snails. They just grab WoW and change the characters to be snails. In your spells, instead of saying "range 30 feet" it says "range 3 millimeters" because the developers want you to feel small like a snail. So you are playing the exact same game as WoW but the convention the developers created for measuring distances in our snail MMO has changed. The world is measured in millimeters and, boy, in this game you can travel for hours until you reach the edge of the map. Lets say it takes you to travel 5 hours from one side of the map to another in Warcraft. Since it is measured in feet you would say: yep, it's a fairly big map, miles and miles wide. In the snail MMO even though is the exact same map the ingame measurement is in millimeters, so you would say: It took me 5 hours to travel only 0.15 miles! World of Warcraft is ranked 5th in the .jpg image. Based on the fact that it took you 5 hours to travel so many feet. World of Snailcraft would be the smallest map ever even when it would take you the same amount of time to travel it. Even when it contained the same amount of npcs, of raids, of dungeons, of players, everything the same. But the developer changed an aleatory name for the distance. Would the change of "feet" into "millimeters" change objectively the game size? No. |
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No it wouldn't change the size of the game, but surely the only way you can "accurately" measure the size of the World of Warcraft is by using the measurements that the developers have given you, as they are the only people who know what scale they want the characters and environment to be. So using your snail example, the game size might be exactly the same, but because the developers have stated that measurements are only in millimetres, you know that it's actually a very small world, you're just scaled down to make it seem big. Or have I just completely missed the point here? I'm pretty good at doing that lol |
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Edited by Micomicona on 22/02/12 17:45 (UTC)
Would the change of "feet" into "millimeters" change objectively the game size? No. No, you didn't miss it. But, let me re-quote one of the things you said: but surely the only way you can "accurately" measure the size of the World of Warcraft is by using the measurements that the developers have given you Of course, but only in-game. So, you can measure the World of Warcraft in feet and miles only for World of Warcraft. So yes, yo can measure Warcraft and say: in Warcraft terms, Warcraft measures so and so miles long. But you cannot compare it to other MMOs using only the in-game measurement given to try and figure out which one is bigger. The actual way of comparing two different worlds would be along these lines: 1. Measuring with in-game resources the distance from A to B. (in WoW's case, in yards) 2. Measuring normal travel speed (whatever it is for each game, in WoW's case, normal run speed) from A to B. 3. Measuring the distance from A to B with an independent but in-game resource. What?!?! So lets say, you play a human character. Well, you lay down on the floor starting from A and count how many bodies it takes you to reach B. Now, imagine someone that has never ever played WoW but has been playing Snailcraft since it went on beta :P And you were trying to explain to that person how big is Warcraft. After both of you, each on your respective games did those three measurements you would come to the conclusion: Ha! One feet in Warcraft equals to one millimeter in Snailcraft! And, therefore you would reach the conclusion: Ha! Even though the in-game measurement is different for each (miles in Warcraft and not even half a mile in Snailcraft) the objective size of the world is the exact same! |
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Edited by Firela on 22/02/12 20:45 (UTC)
The actual way of comparing two different worlds would be along these lines: And after using those methods you'll find out that daggerfall's world is several thousand times bigger than wow's. If you include the dungeons, though then it could reach tens of thousands of times, since the dungeons are also procedurally generated and are huge. |
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i heard some guy actually researched it, but that was based that if you flew west of kalimdor on the map you'd start on the east side of the map near eastern kingdoms, now with pandaria the world will be bigger, but if there wouldnt be pandaria it would be the size of the moon
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