Topic If your actions per minute are the same as mine but
Unshackled
Mazrigos
Unshackled
85 Goblin Warrior
1890
...your DPS is 19k lower what are you doing wrong?

inb4 no keybindings - I have bindpad.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2cx9ksp.jpg
Allyscout
Ghostlands
Allyscout
1 Orc Mage
0
Edited by Allyscout on 17/02/12 20:47 (UTC)
AoEing as a arms warrior is hard work /sarcasm.

Whereas affi locks only have decent AoE with soulburning corruption, when mobs are dying fast multi dotting isnt as efficient due to not getting ful duration DoTs..

2nd boss in that dungeon is also a special case.

not saying 9k is acceptable, but 27k overall in that heroic is pathetic as arms.

If youd given us anything to go on with the warlock we could have said what the warlock did wrong
Sakkii
Drak'thul
Sakkii
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
11840
He plays different class?
Zrénak
Frostwhisper
Zrénak
85 Human Warrior
11490
Your arms, your bladestorm kills the pack before anyone else gets a chance to touch them.
Unshackled
Mazrigos
Unshackled
85 Goblin Warrior
1890
17/02/2012 20:40Posted by Sakkii
He plays different class?


I've seen warlocks pull 160k on magtheridon in well of eternity
Zrénak
Frostwhisper
Zrénak
85 Human Warrior
11490
Edited by Zrénak on 17/02/12 22:02 (UTC)
17/02/2012 21:43Posted by Unshackled
I've seen warlocks pull 160k on magtheridon in well of eternity


If you knew how the fight worked & how warlocks worked, you wouldn't be supriced.

When the sword is thrown at Mannoroth (at the start of the final nuke phase), he gets a debuff, that, whenever you damage him, causes high arcane damage.

Warlocks got multiple DoTs, all of them ticking, proccing that Arcane damage constatly, It's no suprice.

I've pulled 110-120k on that fight, and I don't deal damage nearly as often, hence not proccing the arcane thing nearly as often as a warlock or shadow priest.



Also I hope you don't PvE with that spec, no improved slam or tactical mastery...?
Allyscout
Ghostlands
Allyscout
1 Orc Mage
0
17/02/2012 21:56Posted by Zrénak
When the sword is thrown at Mannoroth (at the start of the final nuke phase), he gets a debuff, that, whenever you damage him, causes high arcane damage.

This.
On my arcane mage getting 70k is hard work.

On my priest getting 160k is quite simple
Unshackled
Mazrigos
Unshackled
85 Goblin Warrior
1890
Edited by Unshackled on 17/02/12 23:26 (UTC)
17/02/2012 21:56Posted by Zrénak
Also I hope you don't PvE with that spec, no improved slam or tactical mastery...?


I don't go into zerker stance because my latency is 250~ 300~ms so the timing is hard making it a dps loss.

Not sure on Imp Slam though, is it really needed?
Zrénak
Frostwhisper
Zrénak
85 Human Warrior
11490
Edited by Zrénak on 17/02/12 22:23 (UTC)
Slam is one of your main abilitys as a PvE arms warrior.
Unshackled
Mazrigos
Unshackled
85 Goblin Warrior
1890
Edited by Unshackled on 17/02/12 22:42 (UTC)
Really? I did not know that, if it means my dps can be higher I will add it.

thank you.

When do you use it though? I always have my hands full with skills atm, when do I get time to use Slam? Or does it override something else?
Zrénak
Frostwhisper
Zrénak
85 Human Warrior
11490
Slam is used when you don't have a Taste for blood proc and Mortal strike + Colossus smash are both on CD.
Zirien
Draenor
Zirien
85 Gnome Death Knight
7190
Your dps should be much, much higher than that, even if the others were even worse. :p
Also; testing dps on Mannoroth is simply stupid, it's a fight where some classes have great advantages compared to others and the people who ignore the tactics will shine on the meters. It's also largely different from the dps that one would normally find in a raid or instance. You're not the only one to use Mannoroth for testing the dps though, most people tend to test their dps on the fights where exactly they shine and they've amazing buffs.
Unshackled
Mazrigos
Unshackled
85 Goblin Warrior
1890
17/02/2012 22:52Posted by Zrénak
Slam is used when you don't have a Taste for blood proc and Mortal strike + Colossus smash are both on CD.


!!!

It worked! I hit 24k on raid dummy!

!!!

!!!
Fearin
Frostmane
Fearin
85 Night Elf Rogue
5190
Whats the point to this thread anyway?
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
85 Night Elf Death Knight
12910
...your DPS is 19k lower what are you doing wrong?

inb4 no keybindings - I have bindpad.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2cx9ksp.jpg


NEVER- EVER compare :

1. dps in 5 man dungeon
2. dps between differently geared people
3. different classes to 1:1 without variables for even comparison (i.e. using Ultraxion to measure rogue dps potential as subtlety vs survival hunter would be wrong now wouldn't it ?)
4. post screen shots of random combat and claim it showing skill/class balance.

And to understand how well you have performed you must understand how also other classes work on same situation.


Wahnsin
Twisting Nether
Wahnsin
85 Undead Mage
1800
Ever since this Warrior got his Skills of The Deep sword his mind and body became one.
Unshackled
Mazrigos
Unshackled
85 Goblin Warrior
1890
Edited by Unshackled on 19/02/12 08:37 (UTC)
Up to 33k now, just by following the Warrior Forum instructions and aid from Zrenak.

I might make a good Warrior yet >:D

http://i39.tinypic.com/allmxv.jpg


As you can see my Whirlwind did about 300k less DPS this time, meaning I relied on other single target spells and my pet was only 7% down from 9%.

So I really improved.
Fizzii
Ghostlands
Fizzii
85 Human Paladin
3425
Are you really coming on the forums to boast about 28k dps? you sir are pants
Miylee
Darksorrow
Miylee
85 Draenei Warrior
CR
10525
27k dps on overall data? Can't see why you're bragging tbh.
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
85 Night Elf Death Knight
12910
But on last screenshot hunter did more dps !

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