Topic The "I miss..." thread.
Kâthleen
Ravencrest
Kâthleen
85 Undead Mage
1960
1) The challenge, mind when levelling you had to group up with others to complete quests?
2) Travelling to a dungeon and having to think about your route in order to survive from both mobs and the opposing faction.
3) Working at meeting a criteria in order to enter a dungeon, keys, mind them?
4) Seeing folk you know in zones outwith the main cities.
5) Raising your arms skill for a different weapon.
6) Not flying in all of Azeroth, this has trivialised the game beyond reason.
7) Ammo for hunters.
8) When titles were something to be proud of, same with purple gear.
9) Having to go to a battlemaster to que for a battleground, yup, I miss that.
10) Having to think and plan and generally use your brain to play.

I think the game has been trivialised and become much more of a “pick up and play” game, much like having an arcade mode option.

Now that the panda’s are coming, I’m sure it will all be ok though, NOT
Zikiniva
Tarren Mill
Zikiniva
85 Tauren Paladin
6535
i miss:

- the time when people didn't complain so much on the forums about how bad the game is even though they are still paying for it and instead of quitting and doing something usefull in their lifes make stupid posts like this in a glimmer of hope someone agrees and so they can get filled with joy about how they think someone actually matters that they exist, even though that isn't so

getting emo yet?
Egtheliona
Spinebreaker
Egtheliona
6 Human Mage
0
Unique class abilities

Proper class quests

And the EPL apple that made me a member of the Scarlet Crusade... :<
Haymitch
Silvermoon
Haymitch
85 Human Rogue
1895
22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
1) The challenge, mind when levelling you had to group up with others to complete quests?


Nowadays there are very few low level so that would make leveling just alot more "harder" because you would have to go to cities and ask for help, even more so on Low pop servers.


22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
2) Travelling to a dungeon and having to think about your route in order to survive from both mobs and the opposing faction.


Never enjoyed this because I always had to get people to groups and after that get my bum to the instance to summon the others.


22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
5) Raising your arms skill for a different weapon.


How can you possibly miss that? Thank god they removed it.


22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
6) Not flying in all of Azeroth, this has trivialised the game beyond reason.


You don't really have to, but I kinda agree. :3


22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
7) Ammo for hunters.


See 5.


22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
8) When titles were something to be proud of, same with purple gear.


Does the colour really matter THAT much? You will still kick !@# and be better than others even if their items names are also purple. Also, titles that requires you to do something hard still impresses me, so..


22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
10) Having to think and plan and generally use your brain to play.


Fairly sure you still have to unless all you do is heroics and raid finder. :3



22/02/2012 15:30Posted by Kâthleen
Now that the panda’s are coming, I’m sure it will all be ok though, NOT


How do you know? They are to childish? Please.
Fenklebriz
Moonglade
Fenklebriz
17 Goblin Shaman
40
I also miss all the things the OP misses. I'd kill to be able to once again play this game the way I want to play it, with all the immersive RP touches (like ammo, reagents and weapon training) that were removed in the name of 'convenience'.

Roll on classic servers.
Sylâr
Dentarg
Sylâr
85 Undead Death Knight
2125
Tha Panda's will fix everything!!!
Ghostile
Stormreaver
Ghostile
85 Human Warrior
5915
..the times when Paladin was an alliance thing.
And shaman a horde thing.
Krisandra
Quel'Thalas
Krisandra
85 Draenei Mage
9300
I miss when people didn't make stupid "I miss x about the old game" threads, saying that they miss the game being hard when they have no progression of merit on that char to show that they're actually playing the game for the challenge. Instead of just whinging because x amount of other people have done something that they haven't.

Or when the forums had relevant threads to current gameplay as opposed to being littered with "I miss x" or "I want vanilla back".

http://darklegacycomics.com/326.html

That sums up how I feel when people get all nostalgic.
Grupp
Moonglade
Grupp
1 Troll Shaman
0
Edited by Grupp on 22/02/12 15:53 (UTC)
I miss when people didn't make stupid "I miss x about the old game" threads, saying that they miss the game being hard when they have no progression of merit on that char to show that they're actually playing the game for the challenge. Instead of just whinging because x amount of other people have done something that they haven't.

How is me missing hunter ammo and weapon training is the same as 'whinging because x people have done something I haven't? This is a post about missing elements within the game that have been removed - A mindset I happen to share. It's not about someone's raid or arena progression.

Or when the forums had relevant threads to current gameplay as opposed to being littered with "I miss x" or "I want vanilla back".

The very fact that there are so many such threads indicates that many people feel this way.

That sums up how I feel when people get all nostalgic.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with nostalgia. My memory is just fine thank you, I have not 'forgotten what pre-Cataclysm WoW was really like'.
Photonis
Sporeggar
Photonis
85 Blood Elf Paladin
5325
For me, it's the loss of features and quirks that the OP describes, that has taken the wow out of WoW.

Never enjoyed this because I always had to get people to groups and after that get my bum to the instance to summon the others.

Raising your arms skill for a different weapon.
Ammo for hunters.

How can you possibly miss that? Thank god they removed it.


And it's attitudes like the ones quoted, that got us there.

S.
Krisandra
Quel'Thalas
Krisandra
85 Draenei Mage
9300
Edited by Krisandra on 22/02/12 16:07 (UTC)
22/02/2012 15:51Posted by Grupp
How is me missing hunter ammo and weapon training is the same as 'whinging because x people have done something I haven't? This is a post about missing elements within the game that have been removed - A mindset I happen to share. It's not about someone's raid or arena progression.

1) The challenge, mind when levelling you had to group up with others to complete quests?
2) Travelling to a dungeon and having to think about your route in order to survive from both mobs and the opposing faction.
10) Having to think and plan and generally use your brain to play.

Please learn to read, Grupp. And I'm well aware of the fact that you share this mindset. You do kind of impose your nostalgia in every thread which is semi-related to the subject...

22/02/2012 15:51Posted by Grupp
It has nothing whatsoever to do with nostalgia. My memory is just fine thank you, I have not 'forgotten what pre-Cataclysm WoW was really like'.

As I said, please learn to read. Firstly, that's great to hear. Secondly, I was simply illustrating how I feel when people get all watery-eyed about the subject.
Grupp
Moonglade
Grupp
1 Troll Shaman
0
Edited by Grupp on 22/02/12 16:13 (UTC)
Presumably your reply was deliberately designed to try and wind me up by being deliberately provocative?

Trolling in other words.

I'll simply ignore the attempts to bait me, and just respond to the fact that the first point refered to instances, and world PvP, not to raiding and arena progression. I guess you know this well enough, but thought it might make nice ammo.
Krisandra
Quel'Thalas
Krisandra
85 Draenei Mage
9300
If you think I'm trolling purely for pointing out the flaws in your initial post against me, then sure. However, this wasn't my intention.
Grupp
Moonglade
Grupp
1 Troll Shaman
0
What flaws are those then?
Krisandra
Quel'Thalas
Krisandra
85 Draenei Mage
9300
Well, for starters. You tried to have a stab at my post by only taking one of the OPs points, which was the case of ammo. This thread isn't solely about ammo. Adding implications to my words which weren't there to begin with.

In any case, it would be in the best interest of the thread if it wasn't derailed further.
Haymitch
Silvermoon
Haymitch
85 Human Rogue
1895
22/02/2012 16:03Posted by Photonis
And it's attitudes like the ones quoted, that got us there.


How was "Ah finaly a new weapon, huge dps upgrade - Just gotta go grind low level mobs for a while!" a good thing? It wasn't hard, it didn't take effort, it just took time. I feel that the current game is alot better in a bunch of diffrent ways.
Grupp
Moonglade
Grupp
1 Troll Shaman
0
No stabbing from me, I was attempting to argue against the points you made in your original post. You might note that I used no personal attacks, personal insults, or self-referencing language of any kind.

My original point was that you stated that those persons posting 'I miss threads' were only doing so out of a desire to whine at those who have achieved more in the game than they had. You underlined this with a statement to the extent that the ones posting these threads had not proved themselves via in-game progression; which I took to assume raiding and arena.

I therefore stated my personal disagreement, using the 'hunter ammo' reference as an particular example of a system that required no 'achievable' concepts, or reference to raiding or arena progression.

It was not intended to be a personal attack on you, sorry if you misread my intention.




Grupp
Moonglade
Grupp
1 Troll Shaman
0
Edited by Grupp on 22/02/12 16:36 (UTC)
How was "Ah finaly a new weapon, huge dps upgrade - Just gotta go grind low level mobs for a while!" a good thing? It wasn't hard, it didn't take effort, it just took time. I feel that the current game is alot better in a bunch of diffrent ways.


It was 'good' if you happen to view the game in a certain way.

It is logical that a person with limited combat skills would not be profficient with a weapon they had not been trained to use. On that basis alone, being trained to equip, and then use the weapon in question adds a dynamic sense of 'realism' (translates as 'immersion' if you like that kind of thing) and depth to the game.

Removing weapon training (for myself and those who feel as I do) ruins this depth and immersion, via taking away a 'realistic' pre-requisite, and replacing it with nothing - thus creating a far shallower gaming experience.

Additionally, there is such a thing as effort vs reward. I personally gain more pleasure out of something in a game if I am required to put effort into that thing in order to achieve it. The perceived 'value' of a reward works in direct proportion to the amount of work I had to put in.

Weapon training and skills required me to place effort (however boring, trivial and grindy you might consider it) into the weapon I had won or purchased, thus exponentially increasing that weapon's perceived value.
Photonis
Sporeggar
Photonis
85 Blood Elf Paladin
5325
22/02/2012 16:24Posted by Refund
And it's attitudes like the ones quoted, that got us there.


How was "Ah finaly a new weapon, huge dps upgrade - Just gotta go grind low level mobs for a while!" a good thing? It wasn't hard, it didn't take effort, it just took time. I feel that the current game is alot better in a bunch of diffrent ways.


I'm not suggesting that everything that's been lost is a tragedy, but the sum of all these little things (such as weapon training, and skill-up) made the game more interesting, more immersive in my opinion.

If you didn't know about weapon skill and equipped a new weapon, you'd be completely ineffective against the next mob you tried to kill, and likely die.

That's a learning curve. Immersion. Annoying as hell at times, perhaps.

But grind or not, bore or not - the devil is in the details, that in my opinion this game is sadly losing..


S.
Dottie
Thunderhorn
Dottie
83 Human Warlock
1265
I miss because my +hit isn't high enough.

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