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Rate the Tanks HP above you
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Just curious of Tanks health, don't rate me, just abuse me or something :P
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230k hp with raid buffs such as foodbuff, flask, stamina etc
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Lies, your armory suggests 211k ;p
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Why would you count this? I could get to about 210k if I put double stamina trinkets on, but 198k without :P
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236k in blood presence :)
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Edited by Azriyel on 19/02/12 03:15 (UTC)
My HP is low. You hardly find any tank, who ever done normal DS with lower HP than I do. But I like where I stand with my mastery now. I can get both higher mastery and stamina, but that's what spare gear is there for !
PS! This is my offspec btw :) |
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Edited by Rukdara on 19/02/12 18:27 (UTC)
well armory doesn't count blood pressence so while i am online like now i have 225k health then i don't care what armory suggest
and for you above me if i remember correct i had lower health when i did whole ds as we in impulse did whole 8/8 in the first week so we tanks only had our firelands gear |
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10/10 I would love to heal you :3
I can tank RAMPARTS!!!!! :O omfg full blues gggggg |
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Since when has a tanks health mattered?
Health is fourth behind 3 other stats that mean something in order of importance. It's like me asking you to rate my haste rating. |
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Actually, health is at top of importance for a tank after certain conditions are met.
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Since when has a tanks health mattered?Health is fourth behind 3 other stats that mean something in order of importance. It's like me asking you to rate my haste rating. If you're going to brag, why even bother posting? |
Stating a fact is not bragging. Health with his gear matters little. He has other stats that need buffing first. How on eath could you misconstrue this as bragging?
Yes, like CTC cap which is mastery, dodge and parry. Therefore it is fourth most important, you know, like I said it is when I first posted. |
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Your post implied that the importance in stats is rigid, which is not the case. After CTC cap for instance stam is generally valued higher than mastery/dodge/parry (for paladins at least, not sure about warriors or DKs/druids for that matter).
Opinions differ on the subject ofcourse since it is not like WotLK where stamina was king no matter what gearlevel you were at. You say health with his gear matters little. That might be true (I cant see his prot gear at the moment), but he also said 'don't rate me'. There's plenty of threads asking 'Rate X above you'. All OP wanted to do was create a new one and see how it goes. No reason to burn it down. |
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Over 9000
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Edited by Azriyel on 21/02/12 03:49 (UTC)
well armory doesn't count blood pressence so while i am online like now i have 225k health then i don't care what armory suggest On my 1st DS I had to use mainly dps items morphed to tank gear since my MS was dps, and since 5hcs in DS we even lost both tanks, so ... But my point merely is that it's not about HP for us DKs, but balancing mastery (and hp) for content we access :)
I guess it depends of the tank class, i.e. for DK it's never 1st ... ever. Even with the high mastery it comes only ~80% of value of mastery. Or when you go mainly stamina, you still need to balance it with mastery as the 2nd stat - and making mastery certain %ge of stamina. Thereby stamina alone will never be most important tanking stat for death knight within cataclysm content as it is now :) |
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I don't disagree. DKs and Druids have mastery which can be stacked sky high without it becoming useless, so stamina has much less weight. I didn't even think of that at the time.
Incidentally you have some pretty strange reforges on ring and back. |
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Since when has a tanks health mattered? Seeing it coming from a mage with no clue whatsoever about heroic raid tanking, who have not even stepped yet into hc DS, u should check your facts right, before you actually open your mouth. As for normal dragon soul, the stats that your tank has, after getting to certain gear level and hp level, it even doesnt matter how tank is gearing, he will be able to tank whole instance no matter what and it will come to his healers view to decide if they like that he has one or other stat more. yes ofc there is 1 better way then some others, but in large margin it doesnt even matter for normal modes, "wrong" gearing might make the bosses a bit harder but the difference wont be that much. However when speaking about heroics ctc for shield based tanks comes as common sense, however what matters for hard progress bosses actually is tanks health, which if u have more, can make the encounter very much easier. So in the content where gearing actually matters, before u reach some level of hp, the most important factor is actually how much stamina u can push out of your gear while staying at caps, and by caps i mean ctc and look at it like u as a mage would look at hit cap, intellect is far more important than hit in general for you, but u have to be at hit cap still, won't u agree? but what is the stat u stack? it's intellect and so what is the most important stat by this (your) logic? intellect, so for tanks actually it is stamina. because the ctc cap is only a cap for tanks, just like hit/exp caps for dps'ers. And to tank ds hc without having no problems u need to be at cap and have 230k hp or more, and if we speak about hc madness, any tank there would want much more hp than that, even at a cost of ctc cap. |
