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[A-RP Guild] The Scarlet Vanguard
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Edited by Celdrick on 28/02/12 17:55 (UTC)
Lordaeron was once the shining jewel of the Alliance. Now look at it. Shattered, Destroyed, Inhabited by Undead whom are no better than the Scourge. Sometime I think the Scarlet Crusade had the right idea, They let nobody get in their way, They were even successful in some respects. But they are gone now, A shame.
Not...Entirely. With the recent return of the remaing members of The Scarlet Onslaught, they have returned to a shattered Crusade which is no longer the Force it once was. However one humans goal may restore that glory. The Scarlet Vanguard a brand new Scarlet themed Guild is currently recruiting all Dwarves, Humans and Worgens to help retake Lordaeron and fufil the aims of the Original Scarlet Crusade. Who are we recruiting? Dwarves Now I know what your thinking the Scarlet Crusade are a human organisation. However, with the current decline with the recent Risen and the murder of Crusaders in Tirisfal, The Vanguard has turned to the help of the Dwarves. The Dwarves know the Mountains better than any Human could and could help apply and advantage to the Northern Battlefrount. Not only that there was a Dwarf whom was a member of the Crusade. http://www.wowpedia.org/Dorgar_Stoenbrow Humans Needing no introduction, The original Crusade is made up of solely Humans, The Vanguard will recruit any rightious Humans who wish to reclaim what is rightfully the Alliances. Worgens With the recent destruction of the Greymane Wall, The Gilneans are now refugees, Hungering for revenge at the Forsaken. An old saying comes to mind when discussing why the Worgen would join the Crusade, "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend". Not only that but the Worgens are also immune to being risen by the Valkyr into Forsaken. Classes We do not accept Death Knights for obvious reasons. But I am not quite sure on Shamans and Druids that may have to be discussed with the Guild Master. Ranks Civilian - The average citizen who agrees with the Vanguard's aims and wants to help out in any way possible. This role could be Farmer, Advisor, Diplomat etc. Initiate - A person who wishes to fight for the Vanguard but has only just joined the ranks. Scarlet Council - The Council of the Vanguard hand picked by the Guild Master himself. I assume this group would discuss where the Vanguard would move or attack and other important matters. Commander - A recruiter and a Commander to the Vanguard initiates. Takes orders from the Guild Master. High-Crusader - The leader of the Scarlet Vanguard, the Guild Master also head of the Scarlet Council. The current High-Crusader is Daridion. Guild Type The Guild is a military type Guild, However the Vanguard will incorperate other Roleplaying aspects such as Civilians who can be Ambassodars, Advisors and Workers for the Scarlets. Guild Location The current location of the Guild is Ambermill, we will hopefully branch out and begin to set up smaller camps in Northern Lordaeron. If you wish to join contact Daridion or Celdrick for an Invite. Thank you for reading, More information will be added soon. |
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I thought we killed you all.
*shakes fist* |
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Jewel. Not jewl.
Other than that, have a bump. |
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I thought we killed you all. Also, are you The Risen aligned Scarlets or freelancing scarlet wannabes? |
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Makes me laugh how they accept Dwarves and Worgen yet not Death Knights when there were actually scarlet aligned Death Knights in Dragonblight.
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Edited by Celdrick on 21/02/12 19:08 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out that minor spelling mistake.
As to your question Astaer, the reason for that is many former Crusade members and even new ones do not trust Death Knight after he events of the Scarlet Enclave. I of course know about the Death Knights in Dragonblight and I believe the reason for this is because it was a dark period for the Onslaught and they needed strong soldiers who not only knew the terrain bit were also skilled with weapons. Not to mention during that time the Onslaught were being controlled by Mal'ganis who cared little about the original Crusades aims. Also I belive we would be classified as former Scarlets and Scarlet wannabes who watched the Crusade but never wanted to publicly join. |
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I really fail to see how Worgen could ever fit into a Scarlet guild. The imprisoned Argents in the DK opening quests would hint that as a whole, the Scarlet Crusade does not consider anyone who fights the Scourge their friend.
Especially not when the Gilneans shut themselves off and left Lordaeron to its fate, or when its inhabitants have become, in a zealot's eyes, slavering subhuman monsters. This is just wild speculation, but I really doubt the Scarlet Crusade would have seen Worgen as much better than the undead. |
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Edited by Arthedan on 21/02/12 00:46 (UTC)
I really don't understand why people keep clinging onto the Scarlet Crusade...
The whole redeeming the Scarlet crusade is pretty stupid. Why cling onto a symbol that is known across the world to be a mark carried by zealot murderers who slaughter indiscriminatly?It would be the same if someone tried to tell the world that most Death Knights aren't bad anymore by calling their organization "The Scourge". It just doesn't add up. Far too many people have attempted to find an excuse to wear  Tabard of the Scarlet Crusade. Yes, I know their uniforms and all look cool, but please don't sacrifice your character's story just so you have an excuse to wear a cool tabard.Unless your willing to roleplay a holy crusader who would instantly kill anyone not wearing the Scarlet colours, why even bother with the Scarlet Crusade then? That's what they're all about, killing everyone who isn't a Scarlet. If you're really intrested in the history of the Scarlet Crusade, yet wishes to roleplay with members of the Alliance, then I suggest you create a guild that has nothing in common with the Scarlet Crusade's name, colours our symbol. If you're actually willing to roleplay a real Scarlet and stick near the Scarlet footholds, then I applaud you. TL;DR: Either roleplay a Scarlet right or don't roleplay it at all. ((This thread is in no way meant as an attack, merely as constructive critizism, should these words sound provoking to you, then I hereby formally apologize for them. It's still your option wether or not you wish to continue with your concept.)) |
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Having "Vanguard" in one's guild name seems to be quite popular now :)
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Edited by Zalijuba on 20/02/12 21:56 (UTC)
Scarlets are horrible and overused role-play and I feel very openly against them seeing how they are gone utterly the remains were trapped in Northrend and were most likely killed by the Forsaken and Scourge.
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Ugh.
Are you going to roleplay in Stormwind as well? |
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I really fail to see how Worgen could ever fit into a Scarlet guild. The imprisoned Argents in the DK opening quests would hint that as a whole, the Scarlet Crusade does not consider anyone who fights the Scourge their friend. Especially not when the Gilneans shut themselves off and left Lordaeron to its fate, or when its inhabitants have become, in a zealot's eyes, slavering subhuman monsters. This is just wild speculation, but I really doubt the Scarlet Crusade would have seen Worgen as much better than the undead. Desperate times call for desperate measures as seen when Crowley offers the Hillsbrad Citizens to become worgen instead of Undead. The Gilneans and the remaining Scarlets share a common enemy and I'm sure some radical Gilneans would join the Scarlets. This could also pose as an interesting event, The Worgen and Dwarfs proving they really are all for the Scarlet Cause. TL;DR: Either roleplay a Scarlet right or don't roleplay it at all.((This thread is in no way meant as an attack, merely as constructive critizism, should these words sound provoking to you, then I hereby formally apologize for them. It's still your option wether or not you wish to continue with your concept.)) This is a well constructed post and you are correct, There are too many people who Role Play as the Crusade for the sake of it. Then again, They are interested in them and may choose to read up more on their lore. We are currently Role Playing near the Crusades former territories and stay away from the Southern Eastern Kingdoms.
Just because hundreds if not thousands of them died does not mean they are gone. There will always be survivors if not, There will always be others who support the same ideology as the original group. We can actually relate to real life events for this, Such as the fall of Communism in Russia. Just because it was over there was still small groups who supported Communism. Ugh.Are you going to roleplay in Stormwind as well? No. The main base of operations for us at the moment is Ambermill in Northern Lordaeron. There may be one or two Scarlet Diplomats in Stormwind however for recruiting purposes. |
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Still active and recruiting!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Forsaken take over Ambermill? Source: Silverpine questline: http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27474 See the whole questline down the sidebar, that's just the start. |
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Edited by Celdrick on 22/02/12 18:17 (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Forsaken take over Ambermill?Source: Silverpine questline: http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27474See the whole questline down the sidebar, that's just the start. In reply to that, http://www.threadmeters.com/v-4TbV/Ambermill_Noncanon/ Chris Metzan himself has said those quests are non canon. Actually there seems to be mixed thoughts on the situation. However if Chris Metzan says its Non Canon I guess its Non Canon. |
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Edited by Kérry on 22/02/12 18:22 (UTC)
In reply to that, http://www.threadmeters.com/v-4TbV/Ambermill_Noncanon/ Chris Metzan himself has said those quests are non canon. In responce to that read the third comment down: " Read the rest of what he said was their conversation. It honestly sounds like Metzen didn't know what he was talking about. Like what quests etc. because it makes no sense to declare it noncanon because they are Dalaran mages being killed. They aren't, at least not with the full support of the Horde, just one crazy Forsaken Archmage. http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27474 The former Dalaran magi of Ambermill have erected a magical barrier that somehow cloaks them from vision. Former. They aren't Kirin Tor. They are Alliance. Metzen didn't understand the question / know what quests specifically. The reason he said what he did was because he thought they were Dalaran mages (and since Dalaran is neutral, it must be a mistake and is therefore noncanon) which is wrong. The only place Dalaran mages are killed is at the crater and as said that is one crazy mage sending you to do that for revenge not "For the Horde". http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27474 The former Dalaran magi of Ambermill have erected a magical barrier that somehow cloaks them from vision. Former. They aren't Kirin Tor. They are Alliance. Metzen didn't understand the question / know what quests specifically. The reason he said what he did was because he thought they were Dalaran mages (and since Dalaran is neutral, it must be a mistake and is therefore noncanon) which is wrong. The only place Dalaran mages are killed is at the crater and as said that is one crazy mage sending you to do that for revenge not "For the Horde"." |
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Mhm. I edited my first message after reading it all. It seems to be mixed views on the situation there, I'd still say its Non-Canon, But well. I'm not sure.
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Please, please don't wear scarlet tabards. If you're reforming, it'd be wise to walk under a different banner considering how much we hated the Scarlets. It's like me walking around wearing a swastika on my t-shirt.
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We tend not to wear the Tabard in Stormwind only if the Guild Member in question is recruiting or a Diplomat. Considering we are based in Northern Lordaeron, Hardly any Alliance will see/hear from us. But a good point none the less. |
