Topic Normal No' Kaled vs Normal Hand of morchok?
Svitogor
Ragnaros
Svitogor
85 Draenei Death Knight
2605
I know all of you DKs are probably sick of this question , but I cant find decent answer online.
I quite hate blizzard for giving us BiS tank wpn and I have to post questions bout shaman one.
Anyhow I am using Souldrinker 403 main hand and HOMorchok 397 offhand. Got 403 No kaled today and I was wondering is it worth using in off hand instead of HOMorchok?

So simple as that , although I would lose strength and other stats of HOM , is higher wpn dmg of No kaled and that effect better? 403 No kaled vs 397 HOM?
Xekus
Sylvanas
Xekus
85 Troll Death Knight
6525
Stick with hand. As frost you have zero need for the crit the agi on no kaled gives, and the procs doesnt make up for the dps hand of morchok gives.


imo
Svitogor
Ragnaros
Svitogor
85 Draenei Death Knight
2605
Edited by Svitogor on 21/02/12 22:27 (UTC)
Well about agility everything is clear , crit for us is !@#$ , no doubt.

But note that No Kaled wpn dmg is (696.6 damage per second) , and NHOM is (658.7 damage per second).

Also it seems this proc can crit. (example I hit dummy for a minute lets say and had 7 souldrinker procs done 16k dmg and only 2 No kaled procs done 21k dps (8+13).

Now is loss of 220 str and some crit/mastery(HOM) fair for higher wpn dmg and this proc(Kaled)?
I am suspicious , so would like an answer from someone who maybe measured it somehow?
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
85 Night Elf Death Knight
12910
Edited by Azriyel on 22/02/12 02:16 (UTC)
Higher the mastery, better the No'Kaled. And higher your haste, more mastery you should have also on gear. And probably with 4 set, i'd dare to think Nokaled becomes better. I.e. looking at your armory, from 2.600 haste rating you should go get some more mastery to accompany, and thereby with that mastery you'd gain there - nokaled gains power.

For mastery-frosts Nokaled is probably better option even compared to souldrinker. But as I am self haste frost, I have never looked into mastery frosts theory as much.
Blindsoul
Darksorrow
Blindsoul
85 Human Death Knight
9450
no kaled maby has more weapon dmg but no strenght.
the strenght you gain by morchok axe is alot better cause of the amount of strenght whitch will increase your dps by more then the weapon dmg on the agility axe.

also the state bonus on your off hander al better then on the agility weapon the proc doesn;t proc to much for dk's
Sharzia
Darksorrow
Sharzia
85 Worgen Death Knight
6960
A lot of this should be based on what spec you run. normal haste frost builds its going to be close, as stated before the wep dps is higher, and the ice portion of the proc on No'Kaled is affected by mastery.

for masterfrost builds, No'Kaled is straight out better, its even better than 403 Souldrinker due to the proc being affected by mastery
Svitogor
Ragnaros
Svitogor
85 Draenei Death Knight
2605
Thank you all for answers. I am at 2800 haste atm , and 1100 mastery. (lost mastery due to souldrinker and no kaled have none)
Not planing to reforge to mastery , so I ll just give it a try today with No kaled and then HoM.
Skullßasher
Silvermoon
Skullßasher
85 Human Death Knight
2835
No'Kaled has agility, DKs dont need agility

STOP TAKING OTHER CLASSES GEAR. FULL STOP
Svitogor
Ragnaros
Svitogor
85 Draenei Death Knight
2605
Thats quite immature answer , I would never ninja other class BiS wpn or any other.
Was in 10 man guild run , no one needed , they gave me to try it. So ...

I also dont see why we need Souldrinker as pve dps dks , as its quite tank wpn.
Ruxani
Karazhan
Ruxani
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
4455
i would try it for sure, masterfrost build and getting lucky with frost procs could end up being very lucrative

220 strength is just 500ish ap anyway
Azriyel
Outland
Azriyel
85 Night Elf Death Knight
12910
No'Kaled has agility, DKs dont need agility

STOP TAKING OTHER CLASSES GEAR. FULL STOP


Irrelevance extreme. You should start thinking outside of the box and look at the numbers behind the items instead ilevels and or str vs agility. No'kaled has got lengthy theories about on ej.com pages, and before judging one should least read some interesting tests and thoughts regarding the subject unless you have of course figures to say that nokaled is no good.

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