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Mastery giving block
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u have magic dmg reduction by 20% on 30sec cd which is not anything too op, but good enough, besides, shield from blood dk's and absorb from bears works only on physical dmg anyway, so it is a bit different kind of block, which in some situations is better then block, in some isn't. why do u want all classes to be the same? if u want to play dk or druid, just reroll one.
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Umm yeah cos our mastery does loads for spell damage ... http://www.wowhead.com/spell=62600
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heh our mastery dont shield us from magic dmg as well xD
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Then why does DK and bear take no damage ever? I honestly thought DK's and druids shields worked on more than just physical damage, is this an oversight? It just says damage absorbsion shield, nothing about physical damage only.
If it is physical damage only, why do they take less damage from all sources overall? (sup recount) |
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l2troll, repeating your nonsense, doesn't make it valid, nor it becomes truth by doing it.
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To answer question:
1: DK shield is physical only, dk heal on the other hand ... its overall so they take more damage but they heal for it. plus anti magic shell every 45sec helps a lot and bone shield has very high uptime compared to other 1min cds. 2: Druid absorbs are still physical only but they have 24% dmg reduction on spell passive which is quite good. |
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all bosses favor some tanking class more than others, but that doesn't mean that any other class can't tank the boss. Only because dk's are so good on this boss doesn't stop me tanking it in no way. |
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Edited by Lycas on 25/02/12 13:37 (GMT)
dont forget warriors have a massive amount of stuns and silences (gag order) in there arsenal as well as spell reflect which completely negates all damage from a single spell, and a dispell with shield slam, and the 30 sec shield block etc etc.
true the majority of these dont work on raid bosses, but the same goes for any other tank class. i think the only reason you think druids and dk's take less magic dmg is because they have heal mechanics in there specs, druids with crits, and death knights with deathstrike. if your having trouble talk to a fellow warrior guildie who you know is experianced, or even post on the warrior forums. |
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Edited by Jolu on 25/02/12 16:12 (GMT)
Block is very strong against big physical hits, it's just a lot of the big physical hits in this tier are unblockable.
You could argue that block is too strong for it's own good. If things like impale and focused assault were blockable, you'd see warriors top of the food chain for those fights by a long way. |
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DK OP tank!!
jk no block |
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Its quite easy, we warriors are the best Melee tanks.
DKs are best tanks for soloing purposes - in all raids there are only healing debuffs or so (like stacking one at Gluth). So DK with e.g. disc priest are capable of fighting bosses while having healing reduced by 100%. Druids are weak, their mastery cant be compared to the one DKs have. (30k abs. shields vs 160k...)). However druids dont care about silence. So e.g. Void Reaver at Tempest Keep is a piece of cake as druid. As DK it requires little skill. As warriror its almost impossible to solo him. Nevertheless we have the worst of all tanking mastery in the game for sure. |
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Shield block is flawed as a magical damage reduction. You either hold to wait for a spell, reducing it's uptime and costing you blocks. Or you blow it on cooldown, for the highest possible uptime but lose out on alot of spell hits.
They're changing it for MoP, but from what I've seen it'll still be rather weak. You chose either magic or block, and there's very few fights where you're only hit by one type at a time. |
Posted by Cwj This. Seriously from an outsider POV looking at DK's and shiz it doesn't state physical damage only in the talent tree overview. Tanking with one and looking at your focus every so often to see a bar dip to 70% on morchok hc then back to full while you are dabbling about at 20%-30% wrestling with the idea of popping LS depending on what your healer is up to while the druid healing the DK whoops about how much he loves healing a DK and how OP they are. Taking such little damage on Ultraxion kept me thinking it also absorbed magic damage. |
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Edited by Blagomils on 01/03/12 08:45 (GMT)
that is called decision making to use it for the boss abilities for which u need it most. PS do u use shield wall on cd too to have most uptime for it? uptime alone is not a right way to judge dmg reducing cooldowns effectiveness and although shield block has short cd, it still is dmg reduction cooldown. |
