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i take most people 1v1 as affl:)
Just put ur portal up in a tree or on a wall and pew pew;)

Casters are easy aswell:) fear fear interupt etc etc.

Just put ur portal up in a tree or on a wall and pew pew;)

This! Learn to exploit.
It's sad, but it works.

but like you said, how sad is that? :L forced to do that to have any chance of winning vs rogues etc i just think its a shame more than anything.

its really hard to balance the game in every aspect , atm we are really good at 3's but lacking in some other things , just deal with it till we get some changes.

I have been sick of the pvp of wow since the end of tbc :D Would prefer to blow torch my own nipples off then join a arena/battlgroung and thats saying somethink of me being all dead and rotten

Lol, ITT: sub 2k locks claiming they can beat rogues and DKs.

Hello friends, let me tell you something from the perspective of somebody playing warlock, mage, dk, warrior and priest between 2.2k and 2.6k+ rating: Unless you spec destro, warlocks can't possibly beat decent rogues/DKs. No, not even poping felguard will help you. It is absolutely and definitely impossible.

i take most people 1v1 as affl:)
Just put ur portal up in a tree or on a wall and pew pew;)

Disregarding stuff like shadowstep death grip, feral charge etc , "most people" doesn't just walk away from your tree, before your dots kill them?

If playing against an equally skilled player with no advantages whatsoever, you will lose to a Rogue or UH DK and Frost if they get lucky crits. Warriors are child's play as Destruction unless they get some full lucky streaks.

06/03/2012 19:20Posted by Phoenexis

If playing against an equally skilled player with no advantages whatsoever, you will lose to a Rogue or UH DK and Frost if they get lucky crits. Warriors are child's play as Destruction unless they get some full lucky streaks.

Assuming you play Destruction you will never, ever win against a competent rogue. You won't ever come close, no matter what pet you play with. If it's succubus a good rogue will simply smokebomb in the opener/mouseover kick the seduce if you have it at melee or long range. In a full kidney you will die.

DK's should never lose to you, there's nothing you can do against them. They kill you in their immunities.

Warrior's are pretty easy as Destruction although I haven't faced too many good ones, there simply aren't many.

Hunters are managable as Destro, Shadow Fury him out of Camo, instant Soulfire get immo up and try to outdamage him.

Mages are impossible, against a good mage you will NEVER get Immolate up inbetween Deep Freeze, Impact Stun, Counter Spell and Blink.

Warlocks aren't that good in 1v1 but what is blizzard going to do about it? They already said that they want to balance this game around 3v3 and not 1v1. And to be honest, warlocks are already insanely strong in 3v3 so blizzard is not going to give warlocks an extra defensive cooldown or something.

Instead of complaining on the forums about something that will not get changed anyways, you might want to reroll or just practise to get better and learn different strategies to kill your oppenents like dks.

Assuming you play Destruction you will never, ever win against a competent rogue. You won't ever come close, no matter what pet you play with. If it's succubus a good rogue will simply smokebomb in the opener/mouseover kick the seduce if you have it at melee or long range. In a full kidney you will die.

DK's should never lose to you, there's nothing you can do against them. They kill you in their immunities.

Warrior's are pretty easy as Destruction although I haven't faced too many good ones, there simply aren't many.

Hunters are managable as Destro, Shadow Fury him out of Camo, instant Soulfire get immo up and try to outdamage him.

Mages are impossible, against a good mage you will NEVER get Immolate up inbetween Deep Freeze, Impact Stun, Counter Spell and Blink.

It's true, although you can beat a mage if he doesn't get too many procs and I find it impossible to beat BM hunters with their Bestial Wrath. Destruction is all about CC nowadays, you basically can't do much when their pet is on godmode.

Why did you port before Deathgrip? That is what killed you. It's as if you would portal before Warrior has wasted charge on you.

Warlocks aren't that good in 1v1 but what is blizzard going to do about it?

Give them a defensive CD/escape button that works, like all other classes?

They already said that they want to balance this game around 3v3 and not 1v1. And to be honest, warlocks are already insanely strong in 3v3 so blizzard is not going to give warlocks an extra defensive cooldown or something.

They currently are trying to redesign the class, a defensive cd is currently one of the new abilites, so obviously you are wrong. I also find it amusing that class balance 3v3 requires the warlock to be mushroom, in 1v1, while rogues are "insanely strong" in 3v3 and virtually god mode in 1v1. Maybe its time to switch that around for novelitys sake?

Instead of complaining on the forums about something that will not get changed anyways, you might want to reroll or just practise to get better and learn different strategies to kill your oppenents like dks.

Nah I prefer to see the class gain parity with classes possessing obviously superior 1v1 abilites, thank you.

07/03/2012 15:54Posted by Rhaenyra

They currently are trying to redesign the class, a defensive cd is currently one of the new abilites, so obviously you are wrong. I also find it amusing that class balance 3v3 requires the warlock to be mushroom, in 1v1, while rogues are "insanely strong" in 3v3 and virtually god mode in 1v1. Maybe its time to switch that around for novelitys sake?

ofc they are, it is a new expansion, they are redesigning everyclass, we don't know how it is going to turn out, we might be worse of next expansion.

07/03/2012 15:54Posted by Rhaenyra

Nah I prefer to see the class gain parity with classes possessing obviously superior 1v1 abilites, thank you.

Lazy bastard.

07/03/2012 15:03Posted by Warferno

Why did you port before Deathgrip? That is what killed you. It's as if you would portal before Warrior has wasted charge on you.

While this might be true, it's not as simple.

This is how most duels against Frost DKs go, and I'm proudly claiming, you can win about 40% of them! Guess 40% of them simply suck :)

DKs tend to often start duels with AMS on, you can't do anything but take that 6 second beating. After AMS immeditly Shadowflame and Howl so he will pop Lichborne. Spell Lock him and port, try to run out of Death Grip range and use Health Stone to get rid of NS. Get instant Dots up before you get gripped in. Hopefully Lichborne is now down and you Coil (without using shadowflames!), he trinkets, but in 30% you get a fear off right after (without NS that is). If you don't, then you're screwed, if you do.. you got a chance. Pop CDs, dot up and drain, drain, drain. Use portal/spell lock combo again and if you're lucky you win.
Tip: if you can avoid a grip for 15 secs after your Howl, Fear will be off DR and might even Soul Harvest on your first full fear. Rarely happens, but in case..

Be prepared to get flamed: wtf u onyl win cause of drain, u sux n00b!

A skilled Frost DK will win against you anyway but you can atleast win against some bad ones, and there's alooooot of them out there.


It's a different story with Unholy DKs.. I often lose to the worst of them, and if I'm lucky I force a pet sac, that's it.

If you wanna win Frost Dks in duels, you're going to have to apply the max range tp tactic. Justt go as far away possible from your portal, if the Dk puts AMS at the start, soulburn and TP, keep on running away from him until AMS fades away and escape those 6 seconds of free damage.