Topic (Locked) DS raid difficulty
Gurthang
Scarshield Legion
Gurthang
73 Dwarf Warrior
1690

I'd agree that it does seem a bit ott and elitist, but then he does that sometimes. Othertimes he can also say something interesting, enlightening or even funny

So let me get this straight, when I congratulated Unnatural for their effort surviving in a realm where every single guild turned to 10man (even aftermath), raiding as alliance in a realm where alliance is endangered specie the reply I got from the "high" ranked SSL guilds (Primal Fusion and Lume quenta) was : "You congratulate a guild with sucky progress" and you call me elitist and not them? just...wow no comments.


Oh get a grip! I was saying that you can come across as elitist at times, that's a fact. I never specified where you have, only that you do do it on occasion. You say what you want about whoever you want, I have nothing to say on this issue beyond what I have already commented about the difference in size and rewards equivalence so have no opinion either way on the rest.
I do, however, have experience on conversing with you here (assuming you ARE Skelos)and that is what I was doing.
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36f0pq/
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
Edited by Beastslayer on 03/03/12 00:23 (GMT)
#1edited to add memes
#2not an opinion when its proven correct
#3
03/03/2012 00:13Posted by Ulothar
I made a congratz post for Unnatural and all of a sudden Primal Fusion came up with "you are congratulating a sucky progressing guild"

wrong reread the forums (cant now they got deleted because cms thought it qualified as trolling)
#4 we dont care about your congratulations
we care about when your wrong and try to spread your wrong opinion as fact
when we bringup instances of 25 being easier u dont get to claim u dont use them and say they dont count

EDITED TO ADD
when we bringup instances of 25 being easier u dont get to claim u dont use them and say they dont count

double edit spelling on that

another edit when i realise the old forum was deleted so u cant read what was actually said because the CMs thought it neccesary to remove the trolling
Alythria
Scarshield Legion
Alythria
90 Blood Elf Mage
17045
Yeah... I'm joining in to stand up for my guild mate. Not because of the fact that everything you say is complete and utter bull!@#$ that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

I don't really know what you're trying to prove here.. People are trash talking you and your idiocy all over the server.
Ulothar
Neptulon
Ulothar
90 Worgen Death Knight
13805
Alythria yeah believe me 3 other realms that have seen what your guild spread around have been laughing and trash talking about you aswell, what I say is utter bull!@#$? well it's you who use life grips and speed buffs on hagara to make the encounter easier , not me, oh w8....it's 25mans doing it so the content is easier in 25man, you can't imagine how many people laughed with that when they saw that.

ps: Oh btw we have done ultarxion heroic 10man just now, ye it's clearly hard in 10man (!) cause you can't have people soaking....used 3 groups of 2 people g1=Rogue/tank1 , g2=Hunter/Tank2, g3=Rogue/DK , it's extremely hard job to do as 10man , it's sooo much easier in 25man....God some people are so lame...
Rosewalker
Scarshield Legion
Rosewalker
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9855
its the !@#$ing same on 25 man just have more groups its if you dont take enough players that can soak on 25 man its your fault not a 10 man guilds fault! each fight re acts diffrently on 10 and 25 man modes

and if you really think they are harder on 25 man mode why did blizz make the gear the same ilvl rather than keep 25 man drops having a higher item level

but i digress

this thread is useless and unwanted
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
why do u keep mentioning the speed buff on hagara...
do the members of your raid not buff before bosses?
do u not have a cauldron?
DO U WEAR GEAR?

not utilizing your raid makes you a bad raider
saying you dont need just makes u look stupid
heres what everyone thinks when u say that
(i dont need to move out of this aoe because the healers can keep me up might aswell take the extra dmg for no reason at all)

never said ultraxian was easier i said its a case of balance between cooldowns and cooldowns needed based on raid size that makes it same difficulty rather than extra cooldowns with no extra need as with hagara
another case of L2 read

Ulothar
Neptulon
Ulothar
90 Worgen Death Knight
13805
Rosewalker, I didn't say that we can't have people soaking in 25man , please re-read carefully, it's Primal Fusion who said that it's harder in 10man to have people soaking while it's extremely easy just like in 25man (you simply just agreed with me if you haven't noticed), almost all classes have personal cds that can be used to survive so bringin up soak rotation as argument for proving that 10man ultraxion is harder is simply stupid.

Why I think blizz made both raid sizes drop the same gear? The answer is simple, they tried to introduced a system where both raid sizes have exactly the same difficulty, as every introduced system in the world, it doesn't work perfectly at start so they try to ballance it, it doesn't mean the succed it in DS, yes their goal is to make exactly the same raid difficulty but it needs time to do so.

This thread became a flame war not cause of me but cause of the 10man guilds on SSL being naive and butthurted, it's not a surprize to me seeing that the horde (all of which are 10man raiding guilds) throw bs about me on trade channel, it's normal cause they feel somehow offended, I don't rly care if 10man guilds on SSL throw bs on me it means nothing to me but it seems they have been so mad and touchy for no reason. People from 3 realms (mostly with 25man raiding guilds) are laughing with Primal Fusion right now so yeah I don't rly care what Primal Fusion say about me, either way I don't think I will ever join their guild :) and none of them would ever been able to join mine so they can say all the things they want to.
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
Edited by Beastslayer on 03/03/12 00:49 (GMT)
03/03/2012 00:42Posted by Ulothar
it's Primal Fusion who said that it's harder in 10man to have people soaking while it's extremely easy just like in 25man


NOPE NOPE NOPE
my post above read it now and !@#$ with ur lies
(edit talking about ultraxian)
Ulothar
Neptulon
Ulothar
90 Worgen Death Knight
13805
God , how low some boys from Primal Fusion can be, you even made lvl 1 chars on my realm with my name whispering my guild mates....seriously how low can that be? Do you honestly think you hurt me or something ? This is so pathetic seriously.
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
lol i do know who did that and was very suprised when they actually got invites as your alts :D
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
btw from now on you are only allowed to say what someone else has said in DIRECT quote
3rd time now u have lied about what people said
Ulothar
Neptulon
Ulothar
90 Worgen Death Knight
13805
I know aswell who did that, you and your guild mates so please stop being an !@# your guild sunk so low, not because you flame me , I don't give a crap about that but instead because you whisper my guild mates saying bull$%^-s so I simply report you all and gl with that. I'm sorry to see a guild like Primal Fusion acting like that it's really a disgrace for the WoW community.
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
other than *anonymous*saying
*hey its uloth can u inv my alt* just to see if they actually would invite
i have no knowledge of them contacting ANY of your guild let alone harrassing them

and to be fair considering what u have been writing on the forums for the last 24 hours id say they deserved a good laugh at i believe dranan saying who the !@#$ is this



Ulothar
Neptulon
Ulothar
90 Worgen Death Knight
13805
The whole situation has been reported so enjoy the consequences. It has been amusing yeah my guild mates are laughing right now seeing how low a 10man guild can go.
Beastslayer
Scarshield Legion
Beastslayer
90 Tauren Druid
18370
lol what consequences
who exactly was harrased
false reporting btw IS actionable
Alythria
Scarshield Legion
Alythria
90 Blood Elf Mage
17045
03/03/2012 00:42Posted by Ulothar
I don't rly care what Primal Fusion say about me, either way I don't think I will ever join their guild :) and none of them would ever been able to join mine so they can say all the things they want to.


Well, according to you, someone from PF was invited to your guild. That would mean that your arguments are invalid and that nothing you say is true.. But you already knew that!
Bulzome
Scarshield Legion
Bulzome
85 Tauren Warrior
8745
Edited by Bulzome on 03/03/12 11:22 (GMT)
03/03/2012 01:03Posted by Ulothar
so enjoy the consequences.


They will never be the same

/thread
Esgarath
Scarshield Legion
Esgarath
85 Human Paladin
8040
Edited by Esgarath on 03/03/12 12:08 (GMT)
02/03/2012 22:59Posted by Ulothar
edit: Esgarath m8, why are you so mad? if you don't like it don't read it simple as that.


I'm just enjoying the show now my dear :)

Edit: And the shameless misquoting
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