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Meaning of Loom in bg who knows ?
Go troll somewhere else and do your homework. Everyone knows, who is a little into this game and forum, that looms were causing trouble even before spell scaling back in wotlk. Spell scaling just started in cata wich makes 1+1=2 and is so out of proportions that it makes you forget what looms really do. |
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if Heirlooms make me a "dedicated" twink same as xp locked people then I wont use them. That wont stop me from making an effort to get good gear before I enter a BG meaning I will have blue dungeon drops and I will have enchants on my items plus stat-food. Well than you will have advantage, but by huge effort, you get heirloom once, you enchant it once, if you will farm every bracket gear, put enchant on every new item, I will congratulate you for your dedication, and I still doubt that you would do it! Solution could be, arraging battlegrounds by item lvl you have, and when you queue you can't change item lvl, then all the OP onshotters can 3 shot themselves, and new/lazy/newby players can try to 10 shot other newbies! |
if Heirlooms make me a "dedicated" twink same as xp locked people then I wont use them. That wont stop me from making an effort to get good gear before I enter a BG meaning I will have blue dungeon drops and I will have enchants on my items plus stat-food. Oh wow where do I begin? you know.....for the sake of this thread I wont negate your arguments I just wanted to state a few facts.Every "veteran in brooms" was a newbie once and lived through everything the majority of newbies is whining about now. Its very possible to live through it and actually grow while doing it. None of us was born with blues, 85s or heirlooms. IMO its a clear gear envy issue. Us "veterans in brooms" didnt decide to be put into the same BGs as all the clueless and ungeared newbies who flock to competetive gameplay without knowing anything but expect to have a chance. I would glaldy check a box to make sure I dont end up with such people in my team because you know....killing them isnt fun and trying to win a match with such people on my team isnt fun either. It was Blizzard who decided its okay to mix all sorts of players regardless their gear, experience, age or class. But all of the sudden the people who actually played and geared their characters are the bad boys? I cant understand why so much hate is directed at me and players like me simply for playing the game Blizzard has created. Whiff of reality dude....stop raging at the so-called "twinks". You are more then welcome to present your opinion to Blizzard, whining on the forums isnt really the best solution but if you do be prepared to get a post from people who DONT SEE this isse your way and you know what? Their opinion might be as true and valid as yours.think about it..... |
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I have bought all the mail agility heirlooms, and I always make a hunter, level it to level 10, then I go into BGs, faceroll people up to level 30, then I delete the hunter, and make a new one.
Oh, I forgot to mention.. I also play low level bg premades, i queue up with 10 other players to faceroll! |
you know.....for the sake of this thread I wont negate your arguments I just wanted to state a few facts.Every "veteran in brooms" was a newbie once and lived through everything the majority of newbies is whining about now. Its very possible to live through it and actually grow while doing it. None of us was born with blues, 85s or heirlooms. That doesnt mean the people who played for a longer time should take advantage of new players by outgearing them. Us "veterans in brooms" didnt decide to be put into the same BGs as all the clueless and ungeared newbies who flock to competetive gameplay without knowing anything but expect to have a chance. The people in looms aren't blamed for it either. And newbies and ungeared people are two different things. Keep them seperated. But all of the sudden the people who actually played and geared their characters are the bad boys? What rage? There is no such rage and especially not against people in heirlooms. Their opinion might be as true and valid as yours.think about it Of course it is. Why do you take it so personal? The problem is not you have heirlooms. the problem is that you outgear other players. And you have the right to get your gear, but nobody is compulsary to get it. And the fact people who do not get better gear get mown down by people in heirlooms is just unfair. Not the fault of the heirloomed people. It's the fault of blizzard not filtering too geared people out to the twinkbattlegrounds. |
Don't insult me just because you didn't read what I wrote properly. |
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Edited by Markha on 04/04/12 14:17 (BST)
It's the fault of blizzard not filtering too geared people out to the twinkbattlegrounds. agreeUntil they see the need to do so I will use whatever the system allows me to and try to enjoy myself. |
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Edited by Copyhat on 04/04/12 17:31 (BST)
If they filtered out "those players, with fully loomed charts" to "our" bracket they would end up feeling like those "newbs"... wouldn't solve !@#$, since they would come and complain about it here.. :}
Also The fact that u can enchant looms and that they are better then blues, and that is a fact, adds up to the problem. But u can't blame just the looms since the scaling on abilities r just horribad. I rarely level charters now a days and mostly plays this and my 85ers. The few times I do level, or just play other random toons that never got to 85, and pvp at them... it's just such a one-shoot feast. u pretty much dps anyone down in a matter of seconds and healing ppl up even faster. Take my rogue for an example, was around lvl 58 and w/o looms, since I had migged away from that server, along with my looms. Anyway I critted more than my own hp with eviscerate, with 5 cp, that u get in no time. Yup fun.. or? Whats the meaning? It doesn't make PvP fun to play when u can't even use most of ur abilities before u drop dead or ur target is dead. Sure, healers heal those sad amounts to but its still don't solve the problem. The fact that looms have such high stats and that scaling is over the top just make low lvl to what it is today, and that the gap between non loomed guys and loomed guys is huge. If this un-loomed guy have been stopped his xp, and farmed all blues he can, then sure, he stands a fair chance! And in the lowest brackets the xp-off bgs r enjoyable, while xp-on isn't :} |
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Edited by Leotseddap on 04/04/12 18:07 (BST)
Don't insult me just because you didn't read what I wrote properly. I did and i see you writing that looms are not a problem or didnt i read that right? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2098161008 |
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Mate... you must be jocking with all this rant here on how low levels are and so on... Low levels are just an introduction towards what the game will offer...
The same will happen at high levels if you cosider thinking like this. Just take a deep breath and think about it. Right now looms are very over-powered... So what about the cataclysm gear...? The cataclysm gear is over-powered as well to the guys that are not good enough geared... And so what? Do we make crazy posts about it? NO! Because we know we can get it if we work hard enough... What we make posts about is guides, Class QQ and trolling... I understand your message and I have to say that I can't agree to it, not even 1 bit... Because it's mad... This game is not ment to be played at low levels, all the true actions happens at high levels... What next? Get epics at level 19 so you can be competitive in 2v2s? |
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See the Heirloom Hypocrisy is still at play...
Basically, lazy loomed alt-levellers pull the same crap as Twinks before XP-in-BG's was introduced, using the same arguments and justifications. The only difference being that to get an 'old skool' Twink, everybody had to play the toon they're fielding, while with Heirlooms, you pretty much spend some spare lowest-denominator currency - once - gained on a seperate, capped toon and then feel big about yourself. Heirlooms have been a problem ever since they were introduced, first by causing an explosion in problematic Twinking, then (post XP-Patch) by splitting the community by making formerly fairly similar groups (alt levellers and newcomers) be distinct in outlook, gear level, and priorities. Just replace the Yellow Gear with flat XP-buffs, a Levelling service or whatever, it isn't like Blizz never nerfed gear before. |
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Ja man, because I do not want to level another alt and take me ages... I want to level a new alt as soon as possible and get into the end content... Because for 60-90% of the WoW population out there that are not trolling the forums, they want to experience the end game content...
What you people right now are complaining would be the equivalent of complaining about epics at level 85, epics such as Cataclysm Gladiator epics... This is a foolish ideea and I hope you people revise such devious plans. |
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Ja man, because I do not want to level another alt and take me ages... I want to level a new alt as soon as possible and get into the end content... Because for 60-90% of the WoW population out there that are not trolling the forums, they want to experience the end game content... Questing and Dungeons provide more XP than BG's (more if you add in Noding and Archeology-on-the-fly XP), most certainly outside CtA, so if it's just reaching end-cap ASAP what this is all about, it certainly shouldn't matter if Heirlooms were relegated to the appropriate Battlegrounds (ie the same queue as XP-Locked toons) Considering gaining XP is an aspect of the toon, not of the Instance, they could even increase the XP in those 'marker' BG's, that way there really shouldn't be any issue. |
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People will always complain about it because they will get owned by better geared / skilled (hardlly the case at lower levels) |
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Edited by Frostfever on 21/04/12 23:11 (BST)
Ja man, because I do not want to level another alt and take me ages... I want to level a new alt as soon as possible and get into the end content... Because for 60-90% of the WoW population out there that are not trolling the forums, they want to experience the end game content... i levelt this mage in 14 days + work and sleep WITHOUT HIERLOOMS AND GUILD XP It takes no ages ife u DO THE QUEST and lore on this game Most player do not even know the storie about this game any more ... Every one see DEATHWING and they say big dragon but its goes much back then this most guys do not even know it any more There just want to level op classes and the quit with them when they reach 85 Because they do not like to play itPLAY a game because u love to play it not because u can be op with a class u play a class because u want to play it and it fun eather Its Bad are OP Go qo quest with a no heirloom and u can do al quest on some zones and learn how nice they are learn the stories about some Zones and kingdoms instead of just rushing and Nuking to 85 ......Play a game |
