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Perception and awareness - not the same
Yes, but this is within the realm of the possible, what I was answering was a suggestion going into the impossible and supernatural. The brain has also been shown to be amazingly adaptable, and lacking normal eyesight means you have the entire visual cortex to repurpose. *lotsa stuff about senses* Very true, and as noted earlier in this thread, how you're presented with sensory inputs is very much a matter of how the brain to process it. Heck, some of the best paying jobs in the world requires years and years of training your senses into noticing things most won't ever see a difference in, like tea/wine testers.
When you're highly trained in any field you'll react differently, well that's the whole point about it. Martial artists doesn't react to the actual punch, but to subtle movements in the opponent, the way he shifts his weight before a punch or the way his shoulder moves, just like how an F1 driver can feel how his car is gripping and can react before he looses grip. And as you note last, this a matter of training and well within normal science and not some sort of ESP, and science knows this. |
No, you react in the exact same way, but faster. With experience you'll know what to expect from a specific type of movement and as soon as you process that movement your muscle memory will kick in. You don't need to think about it, but your brain still needs to process it. You don't need to be highly trained either. After less than one year you'll be able to instinctively react against specific moves. It's not magic. Your body doesn't move on it's own. You simply know what coming the moment you see it because you've seen that pattern several times before and that's exactly what your brain does: process the image and find patterns. That's how you know a glove is a glove instead of a container with 5 long pockets or a kick is a kick instead of a simple leg movement. Your eyes sees the object, your brain tries to figure out what the object is. |
But that's the essence of what I'm saying, you get to react faster because you start reacting earlier to things someone untrained would not notice, and added to that you react differently due to muscle memory having been trained to react in a particular way.
It actually does sort, it's that muscle memory again. You're conditioning your brain and nerves to react in a particular way so you can bypass the conscious decision process. And for martial arts or any contact sport like it a lot of it goes into being able to take hits and not have yourself shut down (much like so many martial arts moves are about doing just that, putting enough hurt on an opponent to disable him, it's hard to continue being agressive when you're full of snot and tears). Not thinking rationally about "he just broke my nose" and instead doing as you've trained can thus save your butt in a "real" situation. And yes, it's not magic. Which is what the OP pretty much is claiming.
Ie, just what I just said.
And which is why incredibly well trained people still get tricked. If you train yourself incredibly well you also make yourself open to feints that a "dumber" person would just ignore. Just look at football, a typical feint there can be fooled just by standing still, yet highly trained players will fall for them all the time because they react before their brains can consciously consider it. And it's also related to how it's really hard to change some technique you've already trained. |
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I'm not putting anything in your mouth, it was you who changed the topic from my point to "what science does".
Now you are putting words in my mouth. I said sworn sceptics. (People who don't even bother to check something before calling it 100% impossible)
Hmmm...then it isn't your scepticim talking when you insult people for sharing what they think...
However you shouldn't hurry to throw ideas away just becouse you don't like them. Sometimes you can miss just what you need like this. There is a difference between not going for something just like that and calling it impossible. Sorry I should have been more limited, only the sort of supernaturalist that likes to preach that his ideas are true, ie, all evangelical religious people and all public believers in anything supernatural. People have the right to believe what they like, even if you dont like it, it's their own choice and it concerns nobody else but them. All skeptics? Nope, nothing like that....just scroll back a bit I explained it.
There is only one meaning of reality and I don't see why shouldn't it be falsifable.
Holes? Where did I mention holes here? And nobody calls anything a fact, just saying you can't call that reality you thinnk you know so well a fact either. In order to do this you need a really convincing evidence, other than the fact you can touch your feet, this action is a part of that version of reality itself, claiming that it proves it is like saying that yeti exists becouse yeti knows it exists.
I''m afraid that your point of view isn't something that can justify insults. Someone can call you names becouse they think they are right and your suggestions are insane....you whouldn't call that ok I guess. There are some things we should keep for ourselves someone else's opinion. Actually read what he posts and how he replies. You atleast try to address my points even if you use very old and tired unlogic. He doesn't, he's tried twice to give real examples, but both were so insanely stupid it was more fun to take it to the extreme to see where his ideas would end than to merely refute them. As I said "his ideas are stupid" does not excuse an insult. No matter who does it, calling someone names becouse of their own belief or opinion can't be justified.
Depends on the person, some people like to have their beliefs questioned , but I can agree with the rest. |
