Topic Siege of Orgrimmar
Drusmon
Frostmane
Drusmon
85 Troll Druid
4865
After the war crimes in MoP,I guess Varian would gladly help Thrall get back to the throne.
Naeya
Defias Brotherhood
Naeya
83 Night Elf Warrior
3595
The impact and sense of pride this might have for the Alliance is severely diminished by the fact they are actually HELPING the Horde here.

With that said in general it doesn't interest me unless it is used as a distinctive chance for night elves to give some !@#-kicking payback for everything the orcs have done in Ashenvale.

Unfortunately, the fact they literally end up helping the Horde with this makes that extremely unlikely, and I know Blizzard enough to know that it is most likely just going to be humans again who will take the credit. We'll have to see, but I have low hopes and care little at this moment.
Nebiros
Argent Dawn
Nebiros
78 Undead Warrior
800
19/03/2012 15:07Posted by Drusmon
After the war crimes in MoP,I guess Varian would gladly help Thrall get back to the throne


You guys do realize we have the World-shaman as warchief! mihaha, alliance will get roflpwned once more!
Heldamon
Auchindoun
Heldamon
85 Human Paladin
10050
It's simple, stupid Jaina will teleport all back to SW! lol..
Acorah
Kilrogg
Acorah
90 Human Warrior
6885
19/03/2012 15:28Posted by Heldamon
It's simple, stupid Jaina will teleport all back to SW! lol..


No more violence!
Narcy
Burning Legion
Narcy
90 Orc Death Knight
7920
If i were alliance (luckily im not) i would burn orgrimmar to the ground but as always alliance is lead by a weaklings...You got so much reasons to hate orcs (each race i think):

Humans for destroy stormwind, killing innocent womens/childrens during First/Second war. Ner'Zhul was orc and his manipulations during his imprisonment in frozen throne bring Lordaeron to fall after all.

Wildhammer dwarves for crush Grim Batol , Dark Iron for Shadowforge.

Draenei...lol...They were almost annihilated by a legion controlled orcs clans, but you know light wroship and other puzzel things require them to be good ;)

Night Elves for devastating their sacred ancient Ashenvale forest by a Warsong Clan (Under World-Shaman permission ;) )

I always wonder why Alliance of Lordaeron didn't listen to Gilneas and mass execute all of the orc instead of keep them in camps...But you know i'm a Death Knight without emotions so i just point your mistakes...Honestly i thought Varian (He was a horde gladiator after all ;) ) will be your hope for show the horde where it's place is but you'll end as always.
Sasquacz
Burning Legion
Sasquacz
90 Tauren Druid
16830
Leave Garrosh alone! i Was so happy when he was appointed as Warchief, we had really badass leader, and you are taking him from us :(
And what now, old stinky troll or half-undead chick will lead Horde? Big BOOOOS.
Durgrol
Moonglade
Durgrol
90 Orc Warrior
11420
So one can merely assume then that post-Garrosh, Horde gets reverted back ,from a heavily armored city, to a couple of wooden huts and tents and yet another pacifist leader is appointed. I can't see Sylvanas getting top dog title, however. She gets lead and she'll turn all living horde members into undead. Good luck writing that peice of "lore", blizz.

Well, so much for the Power Of The Horde. We came. We saw it. We lost it again. Yay....joy...fun...not.
Fyria
Zenedar
Fyria
90 Orc Shaman
5825
This is such a bull!@#$.... Garrosh has his flaws but atleast he makes decisive warchief. If that damn world-shaman mary sue Thrall is made warchief again I will wash my hands on entire warcraft franchise... seriosly I was biggest fan of Thrall when WoW started but Cataclysm annihilated any credibility his charecter had.

I really hate how Alliance can siege and raze Orgrimmar and even HORDE participates in it...
Nebiros
Argent Dawn
Nebiros
78 Undead Warrior
800
Edited by Nebiros on 19/03/12 16:16 (GMT)
Leave Garrosh alone! i Was so happy when he was appointed as Warchief, we had really badass leader, and you are taking him from us :(
And what now, old stinky troll or half-undead chick will lead Horde? Big BOOOOS.


Lol :p

Hey, watch it! Nobody calls my queen a half-undead chick you stupid animal!

I wonder what Thrall will do with Sylvanas? I hope nothing.
Rasen
Stormscale
Rasen
90 Goblin Warrior
10355
19/03/2012 16:04Posted by Narcy
If i were alliance (luckily im not) i would burn orgrimmar to the ground but as always alliance is lead by a weaklings...


That's not a very nice thing to call Metzen.

The way Varian has been built, there is no way he'd leave Orgrimmar standing if he had the chance...
Nebiros
Argent Dawn
Nebiros
78 Undead Warrior
800
I only wonder why does Garrosh have to die? Because thrallieboyxxd (that's just a name noobs take) wants to become the warchief again? Or is Garrosh suddenly corrupted by the Old Gods?

And once again, one of the Horde races will be close to annihilation, but still they'll find a way to keep the Horde-Alliance balanced! Alliance is like 3 times the Horde, but the Wrath gate and now this, will only make the Alliance 4 times bigger. I'm so happy we still have the Val'kyr.
First the Forsaken uprising and now the orcs civil war (a lot of orcs actually support Garrosh ...). And who's going to conquer OG? Aggra and Thrall, fighting alongside Varian and Jaina (if she isn't an undead yet). Yeah right blizz

Most likely blizz will read this and say N'zoth did this ... As usual. I like the old gods, but they shouldn't make them the reason for all the bad stuff.
Rockavenger
Bronzebeard
Rockavenger
90 Dwarf Paladin
5850
That's not a very nice thing to call Metzen.

The way Varian has been built, there is no way he'd leave Orgrimmar standing if he had the chance...


This is what I'm thinking too.

He definitely doesn't love the Horde, how the hell are they gonna make it so that he tells the Alliance to leave it alone?

I do know we are the "goodly" races, but damn it, I want to see Org burn!
Micomicona
Ragnaros
Micomicona
85 Undead Priest
5675
19/03/2012 11:09Posted by Caelheim
I'm sure I speak for more than a few lore fans when I say I saw this coming a mile away, especially given how predictable the story has become lately


A quest line will have you meet Baine and Vol'jin in secret, where they discuss how Garrosh is taking the Horde into an abyss of hatred and insanity.

Mustering the Forces
<Player>, we need your help! Muster the forces loyal to the true Horde, that which believes in Honor and Respect! Remember Grom and the sacrifice he did!

Baine Bloodhoof and Shadow Hunter Vol'jin have asked you to kill ten boars and come back to them when the armies of the true Horde arrive.

Sylvanas will find out what Baine and Vol'jin are up to and will have a hard time deciding what to do.

Sylvanas (creepy voice): If Garrosh finds out about this and I haven't said anything I will not get invited for tea in Orgrimmar anymore. But what if Baine and Vol'jin dethrone Garrosh? if I help the latter it will not be pretty for me either, especially since that minor incident at the Wrathgate. Will sit on the fence for a while and see what's what and when is clear what side is about to win, just have a good alibi ("Nathanos delayed me wink wink")

Word reaches the World-Shaman of this secret meeting and meets up with the Chieftain and the Hunter.
Thrall: Secrecy leads to hate, my friends.
Baine: Well, he didn't kill YOUR dad.
Thrall: We must forgive, younglings, forgive and bring civilization to this panda world.
Vol'jin: I have my arrows ready mon.
Thrall: Arrows lead to hate too, my friends.
Aggra: O Thrall, you are so wise.
Thrall: I know, have my babies please.
(Garrosh in)
Garrosh: She will have your babies alright, in this world or ANY OTHER!
Thrall: NoooOOOOoooOOoOO! Aggraaaaaaaaaa!
Aggra: Go'el!
Thrall: Agraaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Aggra: Go'el!
Thrall: Agraaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Aggra: Go'el!
Thrall: Agraaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Garrosh: Ok, am out, will be waiting for you in Orgrimmar if you fancy a bout.

Meanwhile in Stormwind -
Riiiiing! Riiiing!!
Varian: Hello?
Thrall: Lo'Gosh, am about to get rid of that dog Garrosh, you in?
Varian: Hell yeah! But, will you disband the Horde afterwards?
Thrall: We'll talk about it later.
Varian: Mk. I trust you.
Thrall: Fire and siegeworks will begin at 9, don't be late.

(cut to the siege of Orgrimmar)

Thrall: That bast(beep) Varian is not showing up. Lets go.
Varian (standing in the back entrance of Orgimmar): We will crush them! Today your name lives forever, immortality is yours! Embrace it! (insert overused locus communis here)!
Moira: Will not immortality be Thrall's again since he is the one purging the badies from the Horde? We are just kinda helping.
Varian: Shush! That's why we are attacking from the other entrance, to wipe them all, you silly woman.
Garrosh: Jesus! They both are attacking! My kingdom for a Saurfang to come and protect me!
...........
Garrosh: aaarrggghhhh. I have freed myself!
Thrall: No pal, don't be a copycat.
Garrosh: aaarrrgghhhhhhh.........
Varian: So, will you disband?
Thrall: I would have if you had come with me, now, fk off.
Varian: Oh crap.
Narcy
Burning Legion
Narcy
90 Orc Death Knight
7920
Edited by Narcy on 19/03/12 16:44 (GMT)
But thinking about it from gampley pov you know...Alliance burn orgrimmar, Orcs need new city (i know not all races got one, but orcs are in warcraft from the first RTS game where u play with keyboard only o_0 so i guess they are more important than others, just as humans in the alliance) and the BOOOM...124312432536 threads like

":Cry: lol blizz nubs why greenskins get new city, im cool blood elf and want a new one too"

OMFG Poster above me crush the system xD i imagine how fun machinima it would be:)
Korae
Quel'Thalas
Korae
73 Blood Elf Warrior
1320
"Hey, Alliance! We heard you thought you were second class citizens! But don't worry! You'll get to join with the horde to resolve a horde storyline!

That's all of your complaints dealt with, because you should all feel honoured to join in with a horde story. Now back to Thrall!"

Yiggum
Sylvanas
Yiggum
85 Night Elf Druid
1185
GARROSH FTP BRAV HE CANT GET KILLD HE IS GAWD

VOLJIN DOE IS WEW BETTER HE SHUD B WARCHEEF
Rangoor
Argent Dawn
Rangoor
85 Tauren Paladin
6120
Wow people are crying early. You know the end of the plot but not the journey.

You don't know what Garrosh has done to warrent this through MoP.
You don't know how many losses the Alliance or Horde have got due to this, yet again, escalted war.
Perhaps the anti Garrosh horde have gone to the Alliance for help in some form of treaty or deal...OR maybe the Alliance has somehow gone to them.
You don't know s**t basically, yet.

Also I do have to wonder about all these people posting that are so anti-biased...Calling for complete Alliance victory over the horde. Hmm...
Schatten
Dentarg
Schatten
51 Worgen Rogue
300
would be nice if:

-garrosh develops into a really,really good character during MoP,that we start to love him (hordies),the aftermath is pure hatred because he'll be killed,and hordies will QQ :D
-joint attack on orgrimmar horde and ally
-with his last breath,garrosh heralds a dark force that will consume us all (garrosh made a pact with sargeras :D)
and BOOM,world of warcraft: burning crusade 2.0 with sargeras
+alliance razes org,pwns the horde,horde relocates to another zone and builds another city,would be cool

Lunden
Kilrogg
Lunden
90 Worgen Warlock
4775
Ok, so Blizzard go halfway by allowing players to down a leader. Cool. But it's too sketchy for Alliance at best.

Shouldn't the Horde take out a leader too? Could be that Moira is ripe for culling and her child gets reared by the others only to learn one day of the murder of his mother and RAAAA! Horde-slayer is born!

Yada yada. I have no hope that this will become more than another one-sided gimmick. :(

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