Topic Beta icelance!!!
Osmo
Emeriss
Osmo
90 Goblin Mage
8005
Ice Lance: Range increased to 40 yds, up from 35. Damage against frozen targets now tripled, up from doubled. Now costs 1% of base mana, down from 6%.let the tears of hatred fall down upon us like a tropical storm in may

hahahahhahahaahha
Potatolover
Sylvanas
Potatolover
85 Undead Mage
4440
Which means this is gonna be a fun ride!
Cinondra
Ravencrest
Cinondra
90 Human Mage
16305
But fewer ways to freeze people, my pretties.
Dutícyaa
Ravencrest
Dutícyaa
85 Blood Elf Mage
13700
27/03/2012 09:28Posted by Cinondra
But fewer ways to freeze people, my pretties.


and fewer ways to proc FoF.

Regardless this is going to cause whine yeah. Ice lance is in no way getting stronger in MoP, as we wont use it quite as often.

Ice lance can currently proc from frostbolt (20% chance) and orb of frost (50% chance). Correct me if I'm wrong. Orb of Frost has a 1 min CD, and you can, actually as an opponent, just move away from it.
Dutícyaa
Ravencrest
Dutícyaa
85 Blood Elf Mage
13700
Might aswell add this

Shatter: Now grants double chance for critical strike against frozen targets (was triple) plus an additional 40%. Now a passive skill for all specs.
Glhyphic
Al'Akir
Glhyphic
90 Troll Mage
7275
TRALALALLALALALLALALALLALLALLALALLA ICE LANCE ICE LANCE YEA YEA!!!
And that shatter change is awsome now I have 60% chance but with that it would be 80% ( inb4 change)

P.S. Combustion: Now costs 10% of base mana and has a 45 sec cooldown, down from 2 min. Wording change to only combine Pyroblast, Ignite, and Flamestrike spell DoT components. Now also stuns the target for 3 sec.
Rhoben
Al'Akir
Rhoben
85 Goblin Mage
9480
You fail to notice things outside of the Ice Lance change here. The classes change, the mechanics change, the abilities changed, everything is changed - PvP in Mists of Pandaria won't be anything like PvP in Cataclysm, so stop taking those beta changes and applying them to the current game. By this reasoning, every single thing is overpowered.
Glhyphic
Al'Akir
Glhyphic
90 Troll Mage
7275
Rhoben we are just enjoying another spam icelance wait for something to drop expansion ( fml), instead of frostbolt acctually doing some dmg instead of being a tool to do more ice lances when you cast them on non frozen targets.
Osmo
Emeriss
Osmo
90 Goblin Mage
8005
27/03/2012 09:55Posted by Rhoben
You fail to notice things outside of the Ice Lance change here. The classes change, the mechanics change, the abilities changed, everything is changed - PvP in Mists of Pandaria won't be anything like PvP in Cataclysm, so stop taking those beta changes and applying them to the current game. By this reasoning, every single thing is overpowered.


duh

but it was a fun read , common
why so serious
Krixis
Silvermoon
Krixis
85 Gnome Mage
3860
its dmg scales with the massive health increase and far higher resilance dmg reduction we will have at 90.

the health pools will be around 230k + at entry lvl MoP pvp for non tank based classes unbuffed
Chopin
Kor'gall
Chopin
1 Undead Rogue
0
Regardless this is going to cause whine yeah.


I'm not sure. Fewer freezes, fewer FOF procs. Looks to me like Blizz are trying to reduce its use.

It might become a bit like lock's Fel Flame.
Azrogg
Aszune
Azrogg
90 Human Paladin
7355
Brb powerleveling mage for MoP
Dutícyaa
Ravencrest
Dutícyaa
85 Blood Elf Mage
13700
27/03/2012 11:10Posted by Chopin
I'm not sure. Fewer freezes, fewer FOF procs. Looks to me like Blizz are trying to reduce its use.


People don't care (and think). They just see ice lance getting buffed and start whining. Same deal with the "15% ice lance buff" that wasn't a buff.
Tayen
Darkmoon Faire
Tayen
85 Gnome Mage
7530
Edited by Tayen on 27/03/12 14:13 (BST)
The damage is all very susceptible to change, mage will be dumb in 5.0 like always, but we'll see about 90.
Spláshie
Deathwing
Spláshie
85 Blood Elf Warlock
4470
Could someone remind me the last nerf for mages?

They started nerfing warlocks in The Burning Crusade, and apparently they still got lots of plans to make all Warlocks quit this game.

Reduce mages their damage with 75% then we can talk.
Itsthatdude
Mazrigos
Itsthatdude
90 Tauren Druid
7235
brb rerolling mage
Tayen
Darkmoon Faire
Tayen
85 Gnome Mage
7530
Could someone remind me the last nerf for mages?

They started nerfing warlocks in The Burning Crusade, and apparently they still got lots of plans to make all Warlocks quit this game.

Reduce mages their damage with 75% then we can talk.

Except warlocks still like the best class in the game right now, on par with rogue and shaman.
Frostjaw
Frostmane
Frostjaw
87 Night Elf Mage
6320
27/03/2012 14:05Posted by Itsthatdude
brb rerolling mage


I did that quite a while ago, haven't regret a moment since :)

Can't wait for MoP, looks big for all 3 specs :)
Kinchy
Outland
Kinchy
70 Human Rogue
9075
Except warlocks still like the best class in the game right now, on par with rogue and shaman.
yes in arena with a pocket healer, other than that we are no way on the same level as mages!
anyways i am now going to bite the bullet as they say and roll a mage
Tayen
Darkmoon Faire
Tayen
85 Gnome Mage
7530
27/03/2012 15:07Posted by Kinchy
<blockquote/>Except warlocks still like the best class in the game right now, on par with rogue and shaman.
yes in arena with a pocket healer, other than that we are no way on the same level as mages!
anyways i am now going to bite the bullet as they say and roll a mage

And arena is where balance matters so yeah it's working pretty well for locks.

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