Horde not as Appealing to Female Gamers?

10 Worgen Priest
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Dear Blizzard (And WoW Community),

I've been playing World of Warcraft for over a year now mostly on alliance side. The reason I never played horde is the same reason I'm conflicted with it now. I've never before really made a topic on the forum about something like this but it's really bugging me and I hope blizzard will have a read and consider what I have to say.

My first ever character was a Druid, I came into the WoW world excited about being able to shape shift into different animal forms and being so versatile. That character is now a Lvl 85 Night Elf feral tank.

Then Recently I've started to play on a different realm as horde, Initially just out of boredom, to do something different. I quickly started to feel at home in a friendly guild and loved how heavily populated Orgrimmar was, I had never seen so many people before as I was on a less populated realm so I was really excited about moving here.

So I transferred over my Main which is a Priest and all my time is now spend playing as horde, Making various alts, Experiencing WoW in a new light. But now I've stumbled on the same problem I've always had with horde.

The lack of good race choices for druids and the bad choices in general for female characters as horde. As a woman wanting to play just female characters, I have no interest in being a big cow or a green/blue tusked lady with weird shaggy hairdo's (or orcs for that matter). I rather play undead, goblin or blood elf which have better character customisations but still not as good as alliance where all races have good female characters.

Then now with MoP coming out I was keeping my fingers crossed that they would make Pandaren druids or at least add another race option for them as I want to transfer my druid over to horde but feel very reluctant to pay all that money to transfer a character I love to a faction that doesn't support decent race choices for druid female characters.

I've had other female gamers mention the same thing including some who play druids complaining about having to be trolls/taurens (Not saying all agree, Some are proud to be those races but there's so little choice).

I know this seems quite shallow but we play fantasy games to immerse and pretend to be more awesome. Which is why many guys play Taurens, Worgens, Undead, etc.. because they look cool/fierce, I want to look awesome as well and for me that is not being a cow or a troll.

Obviously you could say 'Go back to Alliance then!' But that doesn't solve this issue, I think it's something that should be discussed, confronted.

Basically I'd really like to see another/different race option for druids or better customisation options for female taurens, orcs and trolls.

I'd also like to hear how other woman(or men) in our community feel about this subject.

Edit:

There is a discussion going on about Pandaren being druids on this topic for those interested: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3553598984

Posted by Fluffball:
I really appreciate your response and I agree that horde are meant to be a lot more fierce than alliance, I also know a lot of woman play horde like myself and that some of it is to do with personal taste.

I'm just saying why do woman need to be very masculine or have hideous customisation options (Old hag faces) just to be fierce? Why not have a middle ground where you have some more normal options rather then just one. I'm not talking about making them really pretty.

I found this image on google that someone made that demonstrates exactly what I mean. This person edited the pictures slightly to make the female troll faces more feminine, slightly softer: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/189/6/d/troll_females_revamped_by_Raaga_June.jpg

You can see how they are still not gorgeous super models or sparkly pixie fairies but in comparison they are a lot more feminine and more appealing.

That's what I would like to see, some more options or some small revamps of the faces and hairstyles, making faces less wrinkly, less masculine, hairstyles less boyish, softer, longer (For orcs some options not to be semi bald) without turning them all into blood elfs.

I don't think it's an outrageous request, it would be simple to implement and it's such a simple small thing but makes such a huge difference to many people like myself that feel limited when playing horde. Especially druids.

Also the druid forms on horde are quite masculine as well with the huge horns and tusks, The cat form having very masculine facial features. Why not tone down the horns and tusks slightly so they seem a bit more natural rather than stuck on and making the facial features on the cat form slightly more unisex in appearance.
Edited by Fluffball on 30/03/2012 10:28 BST
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90 Worgen Druid
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I agree. I honestly don't understand why the Pandaren can't be druids...just seems a little odd. But in relation to the Horde races blizzard can't do much about that without destroying the lore that goes with druids...
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1 Tauren Shaman
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What do you want then? A pink pony race with optional glitter hair?

This is WoW. If you want to play something purely for the looks, go play Hello Kitty Online Adventure. I hear you can be a nice cute kitty.
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67 Dwarf Warlock
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I think gender has nothing to do with it, its your personal preferences, nothing more.
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35 Blood Elf Rogue
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Ah just go run Magisters Terrace and get the Orb of Sindorei. Then you can be a cow AND a belf ;-)
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90 Draenei Warrior
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28/03/2012 01:14Posted by Helna
I think gender has nothing to do with it, its your personal preferences, nothing more.

But women tend to have more feminime preferences due to obvious reasons. Playing a rotting corpse or a green monster isn't really their thing.
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67 Dwarf Warlock
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28/03/2012 01:26Posted by Ayano
I think gender has nothing to do with it, its your personal preferences, nothing more.

But women tend to have more feminime preferences due to obvious reasons. Playing a rotting corpse or a green monster isn't really their thing.


By jove you're right. I'll go tell my friend Abbie her undead warlock is most unbecoming of her.
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90 Draenei Warrior
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28/03/2012 01:27Posted by Helna

But women tend to have more feminime preferences due to obvious reasons. Playing a rotting corpse or a green monster isn't really their thing.


By jove you're right. I'll go tell my friend Abbie her undead warlock is most unbecoming of her.

Note >tend. There are exceptions, obviously.
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67 Dwarf Warlock
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Yes, tend. I suppose my friends Sally and Robyn therefore must also care only for pretty un-monstery characters. Oh and Tabitha. And Lisa, and myself, of course.

Gender stereotypes belong in the previous century thanks.
Edited by Helna on 28/03/2012 01:31 BST
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66 Undead Warlock
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28/03/2012 01:27Posted by Doghma
when making a sandwich.


I take issue with you using the divine act of sandwich creation in such a derogatory fashion !

*hands bar of soap*

I guess you know what to do with this.
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90 Draenei Warrior
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Gender stereotypes belong on the previous century thanks.

Indeed they do, but there's still no denying that they in fact still exist -- that would just be delusional -- even if to a lesser extent. Most females I know don't want to play horde because of the lack of... pretty choices.

Absolutely zero sexism intended; this is just how it is. It's obviously not my opinion or something, it's just what I've picked up after discussing this game with a bunch of women.
Edited by Ayano on 28/03/2012 01:35 BST
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85 Blood Elf Death Knight
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I'm a female, I play Horde.
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1 Tauren Shaman
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28/03/2012 01:33Posted by Ayano
Gender stereotypes belong on the previous century thanks.

Indeed they do, but there's still no denying that they in fact still exist -- that would just be delusional -- even if to a lesser extent. Most females I know don't want to play horde because of the lack of... pretty choices.

Absolutely zero sexism intended; this is just how it is.

No, how it is: "most females you know don't want to play horde". That doesn't mean that suddenly most females don't want to play horde.

It would be the same as saying: It's raining here, i just called my friends and it's raining there too. It must be raining on the entire planet.
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1 Tauren Shaman
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28/03/2012 01:32Posted by Kyra
when making a sandwich.


I take issue with you using the divine act of sandwich creation in such a derogatory fashion !

*hands bar of soap*

I guess you know what to do with this.

Sure, i'll inspect it and tell you if you've used enough soap this time. It better be visibly used!
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67 Dwarf Warlock
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Its delusional to believe that just because your friends follow a stereotype that all females gamers must then 'tend' to follow it as well. The longer you keep perpetuating these stereotypes, the longer they'll exist, if only in the minds of the people that keep insisting they do.

Millions of people play WoW, do you honestly think that the majority of females play pretty characters and the majority of males play big fierce characters based on such a small sample size?
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90 Draenei Warrior
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28/03/2012 01:38Posted by Helna
Its delusional to believe that just because your friends follow a stereotype that all females gamers must then 'tend' to follow it as well.

Oh, but I never said that. A lot of them, however, do. That's what I'm trying to say.
28/03/2012 01:38Posted by Helna
Millions of people play WoW, do you honestly think that the majority of females play pretty characters

I don't know about majority, but I think a lot of them rather would play pretty characters, anyway.
28/03/2012 01:38Posted by Helna
and the majority of males play big fierce characters based on such a small sample size?

Do I look big and fierce to you?
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85 Blood Elf Mage
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28/03/2012 01:33Posted by Industria
I'm a female, I play Horde.


But....blood elf?
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66 Undead Warlock
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Its delusional to believe that just because your friends follow a stereotype that all females gamers must then 'tend' to follow it as well. The longer you keep perpetuating these stereotypes, the longer they'll exist, if only in the minds of the people that keep insisting they do.

Millions of people play WoW, do you honestly think that the majority of females play pretty characters and the majority of males play big fierce characters based on such a small sample size?


I'm really starting to like you.
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14 Gnome Warlock
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28/03/2012 01:43Posted by Ayano
Do I look big and fierce to you?
Yes, yes you do.
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