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This certainly isn't the worst thing blizzard have done, I look forward, and so do other classes to making druid a viable decision to go for in arena and PvP overall without thinking "oh well if we go for the druid he'll just go bear and win by default" this HAD to be fixed, bear wont be useless, but as someone already said it won't be super amazing as it is now.

Ferals in mop can get much better control than they have now, such as nature's swiftness (instant cyclone without having to land a finisher first) or disorienting roar (30s CD aoe disorient, which gives the time to cast cyclone or heal up or run the hell away), plus the shadowdance-like incarnation giving access to a stun without CD (pounce) and the ability to restealth every 8s (yeah I know it doesn't remove dots but it can still be useful just like pre-cata vanish was still useful even when clos was on CD, or like shadowmeld is useful).

Also the self healing is looking to be pretty good (although I don't know what it's like at 90)

And also they are giving ferals survival instincts back, it's just not in yet in the current build. (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5889309137?page=195#3882)

I'm sure ferals will still be able to achieve great survivability. It just will require a more active gameplay, less about going into bear form and surviving for ages almost without doing anything and more through a mix of controlling the enemy (ie more like the way rogues achieve good survival despite being inherently squishy) and self healing.

How do you know bear specced ferals in PvP aren't going to survive just as well as in Cata? :)

13/08/2012 11:15Posted by Medhmaeb

How do you know bear specced ferals in PvP aren't going to survive just as well as in Cata? :)

How would you go about "speccing bear" as a feral in MoP?

How do you know bear specced ferals in PvP aren't going to survive just as well as in Cata? :)

have you actually read up on what's happening to ferals? because that made no sense.

09/08/2012 02:33Posted by Deadlytearz

This certainly isn't the worst thing blizzard have done, I look forward, and so do other classes to making druid a viable decision to go for in arena and PvP overall without thinking "oh well if we go for the druid he'll just go bear and win by default" this HAD to be fixed, bear wont be useless, but as someone already said it won't be super amazing as it is now.

Bear was pretty OP when vengeance was still stacked when fighting against other player. Bear is also pretty good against physical damage.

Anyway if you have lost against someone who stays in bear form, you as player are to blame.

We're basically getting nerfed into the ground in every aspect... But hey, we get rootbreaking back!

.... /sob

It also seems that ferals lost alot of avoidance, in 5.0.4 we have acutally less than warriors wich is unfair since we are leather, our survive seems to have been heavely nerfed(personally i was expecting some nerfs to be honest now i'm curious to see how much) this combined with alot less crit(hence combos are applied harder--predatory strikes) and lower energy regen(even less combos).Also some of the glyphs i think should have been aded to the abilities by default like glyph of pounce wich actually fixes some limitations caused by the deisgn.Also or direct damage seems to have been lowered, even with savage roar i hit pretty low now compared wih other classes.But again the tweaking is not over, i mean they gave us surv instincts back.. so i think its wise to wait and see how this will work.

I love the change, as feral I want to be in cat form as much as possible, don't really like being a big clumsy bear... sounding childish I know, but hey, at least I like the change :)

sry i'm in the love it camp hated going bear anyway

these changes have more in common with fotm abilities than with what a kitty meant to players like me.
I respect people's choices and views. mine is I cba.

well let's face it, only reason most of us feral were still here isn't because wow's the best mmo around... but rather, the least worst.
now that it's downright cr@p no reason for me to stick around.

zero joy to log on.
not a chance I spend another few months (like I did before) bleeding my eyes on theory crafting trying to find ways around my kitty's poor design.
not to mention contain my rage reading walls of posts about angry justified players.

might come back in a while check things out, if I don't get sucked into another more fun game. or for my sake irl.
shame, I loved it here.

I have no respect for any feral who liked cataclysm feral better than any other expansion packs including mop.

To people who do so:
I think i have the exprience to call that:

- You have no idea about ferals!
- You are so used to pvping/pveing with 3 buttons that an actual change bothers you.
- You are used to get stuff done on your behald than rather do it yourself (dispells heals etc)

If blizzard reads these posts: Please do not get the wrong idea and try to make ferulz back to catac.

Cataclysm changes made me forsake my 7 year old druid, now im back with him thx to mop changes. The speed, the heals, the utility... Feral is back baby :)

the real problem is not having enuf action bar space. if i had 2 or 3 more slots it would be fine. trust me.

^ agreed, need 4 more binds and im pushing my limits :(

31/08/2012 13:03Posted by Stormfury

^ agreed, need 4 more binds and im pushing my limits :(

HOly smokes we agreed on something GOD dam. is it chirstmas daddy ? anyway i can bear with it all if blizz give me +10 energy and 3 more action bars or ill have to make 1 very big spam macro that has all my abilities LOL i can see the broken nesness ness nesss ness

31/08/2012 11:28Posted by Stormfury

If blizzard reads these posts: Please do not get the wrong idea and try to make ferulz back to catac.

Cataclysm was such a downer after anything that came before - especially WotLK kitty mechanics imo. Shuda called it a day there and then. But I kept hoping...

Today slapping SR back on the negotiation table means fk all to me - especially w/o the proper regen, scaling yadi yada... If anything it shows Blizzard waited a year to admit being wrong.
So I should again wait until I reach 90 or the middle of the expansion to perform? Fk that!

This isn't qq. Just a kitty tired of this business of constantly changing stuff and still getting nowhere decent.