Topic Blood pvp dk vs frost mage and rogue stun
Krastinov
Aggramar
Krastinov
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
4665
Firstable i say i know i have bad gear at this moment but few things interesting me:
how to kill frost mage with his shields frost armor water elemental frost nova stun and his crits on frozen targets.My strangulate and antimagic shell do nothing on him.
Next question is:
How to counter rogue stun when on first stun i use icebound fortitude and this have cooldown?
Stalima
Khadgar
Stalima
85 Troll Death Knight
6845
if u want to kill a frost mage, u need to kill the pets above all else, the mage is an irrelevant target until that pet is dead for good as u will NOT and i repeat NOT be able to touch him until that pet is out of the way, u need to mitigate as much damage as possible and watch for when he uses his burst cds so u can counter with your own defense cds, need to trinket a deep freeze while hes casting a frost bolt pref so he wastes mana doing crappy damage on an unfrozen target aswell as icelance if he didnt have fingers of frost up, u need to use IBF to counter another deepfreeze but preferably when u think hes gonna try a large burst too

AMS is mainly used to kill the first water elemental quickly as well as mitigating damage of a standard freeze later, u need to be very careful when using Lichborne however as this will most likely affect the outcome... if he deep freezes u during it then u have failed since he can follow it with a counterspell for 9 second lockdown during ur most powerful regen mechanic

as for strangulate, once again u only use this when ur frozen and hes nearing the end of a frostbolt (tho it is also used as a range interrupt if he tries to regenerate his mana bar with evocation)

its all about making sure u take as little damage as possible while ensureing the pet dies... after thats gone for good the mage is as good as dead since he just cant freeze u enough to keep u away permanently, its easier as a troll dk with 45% slow time reduction (55% or so with meta gem)as for rogues, u need to take his opener and just regenerate as much as possible till his cooldowns have all ran out, u trinket dismantles only as they are the most deadly to you, fighting rogues as blood is all about dragging out the battle as long as possible, u preferably use IBF when u need to regenerate alot of health (same with empowered rune weapon)
and once again be very careful with lichborne as u do not want him blinding u during it.

another tip is to avoid using multiple defensive cds at the same time since they can allow u to drag out a fight for increadibly long durations when u use them one at a time.

and trust me, u will not be damaging a rogue till after his cooldowns are all blown out so survival is a priority until then.

ur gear isnt exactly the best so u will see significant increase in ur toughness as u gain full ruthless gear anyway, everyone dies fast until they have gear anyway tho
Krastinov
Aggramar
Krastinov
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
4665
Very thx Stalima.
Strifë
Frostwhisper
Strifë
89 Worgen Death Knight
6195
Firstable i say i know i have bad gear at this moment but few things interesting me:
how to kill frost mage with his shields frost armor water elemental frost nova stun and his crits on frozen targets.My strangulate and antimagic shell do nothing on him.
Next question is:
How to counter rogue stun when on first stun i use icebound fortitude and this have cooldown?


I will tell you straight, you cannot hope to kill a Frost Mage ever, even when blood shield absorbed magic damage it was VERY hard. So your hope of killing one with even a ounce of brain matter is 0%.

As for rogues, it's all about keeping your DoTs on them up, chains for slow (Easier to manage them if they are slowed) and death strike as your main healing, and rune strike as your main damage (They cannot dodge or doing anything about this) so you will whittle them down slowly.

I have successfully killed mainly rogues as Frost using the above tactic, so it should work better for Blood.
Haukka
Saurfang
Haukka
87 Night Elf Hunter
4430
Don't play as blood, that's how.Little to no utility, just faceroll survivability and mediocre damage.


Why not? Its really fun when playing random bg's. And its way more usefull then frost or uh when guarding notes and towers and fc at wsg and twin peaks. And i have won many games for Horde when my blood dk have tanked bosses in av and ioc. Most of the time blood is way better in bg's then frost or uh dk's. Only in sota i dont use blood spec.
Krastinov
Aggramar
Krastinov
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
4665
i dont want change spec...i love play as blood.
26/03/2012 23:33Posted by Strifë
I will tell you straight, you cannot hope to kill a Frost Mage ever, even when blood shield absorbed magic damage it was VERY hard. So your hope of killing one with even a ounce of brain matter is 0%.


Maybe you can give me some tips or say some tactic vs frost mage?

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