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A call to true Horde players.
wow I got a shout out! /touched my undead and rotting body is touched : D I have no illusions the horrde are strong but I really think people downplay the night elfs. if they were nothing without cenarius.. well they did pretty good after his death and pulled through, it wa their plan that defeated archimonde though of course alliance and horde troops helped slow the legion In fact I think people overhype Grom, no where can I find was it a one on one dual as his entire clan took demon blood, though Grom was awesome and despite his in my opinion "evil tendencies" he released he screwed up and tried to fix his mistake. of course him killing Mannoroth was kind of the pit lord letting his guard down as he laughed at him and Thrall (he knocked thrall out in one hit) but still despite his flaws Grom was a picture perfect horde, aggressive and cruel plus pretty damn close minded but hey he realized his mistake of using demon power and died free. This is why Garrosh a true WARchief loves him, though of course the damage he did to the alliance is inexcusable to them and thus conflict but this keeps the conflict ball rolling |
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Alliance are too weak to blow up, firebomb or plague Horde towns. That is why they will always lose to us. Just like they have done ever since Thrall became warchief, in every battle, everywhere.
That and they are dumb enough to not exterminate the Orcs that massacred their population that they caught after the second war, allow us to kill Admiral Proudmoore and build a home in Durotar, save Thrallmar from being blown up by the Burning Legion, save the Blood Elves from extinction by re-igniting the Sunwell, help the Darkspear Tribe fight the Zandalari, and shelter and support Baine so he could keep the Tauren in the Horde, all of which has given us tens of thousands of more Horde warriors to butcher their entire population with. Idiots. At least we are smart enough to NEVER do anything to keep their troops and people alive. |
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Which is why we will soon joining forces with those idiots to help get rid of Garrosh (what evilness must he do to have us all turn on him I wonder?).
I think very soon (after Theramore) we really will see the true might of the Alliance and things will get tricky for the Horde.We might have a few victories here and there but as we know the expansion will end with an Alliance army in Ogrimmar, there might be trouble ahead! |
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I don't get it. I think that everything we have done in Cataclysm is AWESOME.
Every dead Alliance soldier or citizen today is one that can't fight us tomorrow. As long as we blow up, firebomb or plague them recklessly, we can't lose. And if we are gonna rule all of Kalimdor, at least the Night Elves, the Worgen, and the Draenei will have to be totally exterminated. No true Horde member should have any problems with that. At all. |
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Oh and why oh why is no one suggesting the Most Awesome Orc Ever for Warchief.
Vote for Garona 2012!! (Ok, she is an Orc/Draenei hybrid, but still.) |
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Edited by Ehi on 03/04/12 13:23 (BST)
I would discuss this with Ehi, Redemptioner, Korae or some other sane ppl about lore who are usually open minded to all factions and doesnt bear any hate about some faction... *sniff*... I promised myself I wouldn't cry... Anyhow... Lore is not, or at least should not, be about "favourites". Factions should never be wiped out "because you don't like them", just as they should never ascend "because they're cool". Those are signs of bad writing. Lore has rules, and these rules should be obeyed. Admittedly, they rarely are, even by Blizzard, but that doesn't make it "okay" for others to break them as well. As for the Night Elves... I think what many forget is that in their original WC3 incarnation, the Night Elves acted as the "third good faction" to balance out the Horde and the Alliance. My impression from back in the day was that they were even the strongest of the factions. There was never any "proof" of this, so I won't push it, but the point remains - "rolling over" the Night Elves shouldn't be possible. Blizzard has failed in their representation of the Night Elves for a long time, but that doesn't mean we should encourage them to continue doing so. To the contrary, we should try to convince them to get their arses in gear and actually write decently again. |
[quote="35530740215"]I would discuss this with Ehi, Redemptioner, Korae or some other sane ppl about lore who are usually open minded to all factions and doesnt bear any hate about some faction...Wait, I'm open minded and sane? :P |
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Edited by Arathyrion on 03/04/12 11:27 (BST)
The main issue is that even when night elf lore is touched upon heavily, it is at the cost of having Varian and humans involved, which automatically overshadows large swathes of what would realistically occur. We already know that the night elves have strong ties with their forests and a number of exotic allies. Even without including the wayward ancients, why are we not seeing faerie dragons, mountain giants and nightsabers amongst the active combat forces? One can argue that we see such in Feralas during a brief quest chain, but that doesn't lead up to any victory or major battle. It also doesn't help that the elite forces on both sides of the conflict are often reduced to fodder to be steam-rolled in quests. |
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I also wondered when we helped Voljin on Zandalari rise and to Thrall at many places but we freakin HELPED!.... That " lets do this together" thing is not a way tht players chosen on their own...Blizz made it this way and we did it with horde idiots... So why are you tht frustrated when you needed our help to exterminate Garrosh the rumblegrumble?? You have to work with alliance if you want to play tht freakin raid as a player..like we alliance all HAD TO play and help horde at Zul Aman and Zul Gurub...like we players loved to involve to internal politics of horde... Bfre yelling crap...look to your back and consider..Tht was what i meant to since beginning. @Hobstadt Dear hobbit...You told many examples how DUMB alliance is. Im playing alliance and i personally not dumb....isnt it lovely to groom with the victories of horde over alliance at catacalysm? ...it should be..But remember first...This is not a victory tht has been acquired by the players efforts..It is simply Blizz doing, so stop showing proudness like you spent any effort on those victories. Blizz wrote it made it released it and we ate it. Simply as tht since WOW release. As an alliance player i never go offensive against a horde player when it is about LORE. So stop humiliating alliance like we players fought and lost and like WE created the alliance lore..Wish it was tht way so we would see who were losin it.. But we are eating the same meal Blizz prepares for us. Thts why bfre calling alliance as dumbs, reverse it if it has been written on horde side by blizz and consider again...i dont think you would talk tht brave if it was like tht. |
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I meant no offense to Alliance PLAYERS. It's the Alliance NPCs that are dumb whenever they are saving the lives of a single Horde citizen. They are just hastening the destruction of their own children.
I mean seriously? They treat Horde that is trying to, for example, exterminate the Night Elves diffferent than neutral factions that is trying to extreminate the Night Elves DIFFERENTLY?? Don't they realize that they will be killed either way, better to let the Horde and whatever third faction destroy each other? Every surviving Horde Soldier is a weapon Garrosh can use to wipe out the Alliance, but they are unwilling to see that and act accordíngly. |
I meant no offense to Alliance PLAYERS. It's the Alliance NPCs that are dumb whenever they are saving the lives of a single Horde citizen. They are just hastening the destruction of their own children. well it is the neutral alliance people rather than the alliance themselves that are morons. like they used to call the faction tension "petty differances" well they were not, the horde attacked and their has been aggression even after the orcs were released. I am happy with the horde story and do not mind lving through it and it highlights Thralls major failings, he taught them not to bee slaves and demon blood is bad but he never really stamped out the warrior pride of their culture and him wearing doomhammers armour and using his weapon while naming many settlements after old horde heroes was pretty dumb if you think about it. |
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Edited by Hobstadt on 03/04/12 16:10 (BST)
The reason that Alliance is in the situation they are now is because they showed mercy to the Orcs (after the Second War), the Blood Elves (at the Sunwell), the Darkspear (helping them against the Zandalari AS IF IT MATTERS which Trolls slits their throats in the night) and the Tauren (sheltering and helping Baine).
A few more idiotic moves like that and we'll soon have them all exterminated. The last time the Alliance treated the Horde in an intelligent way was when the Kul Tiras Navy sank the Orc fleet during the Second War and let every single Orc drown. |
The reason that Alliance is in the situation they are now is because they showed mercy to the Orcs (after the Second War), the Blood Elves (at the Sunwell), the Darkspear (helping them against the Zandalari AS IF IT MATTERS which Trolls slits their throats in the night) and the Tauren (sheltering and helping Baine). I cannot actually argue against this, I am lost as to why we keep helping the horde while getting our butts kicked. added to the list is thousand needles where night elfs help tauren against grimtotem clan while tauren help defeat the night elfs in ashenvale and help attack darkshore then we will help in orgrimmar and depose Garrosh getting thrall back and we helped conquer undercity in WOTLK where we promptly were teleported out by Jaina and the forsaken got their power base back and proceeded to invade and beat us senceless. this is why I tend to view certain alliance/ neutral people as incompetant/ traitors because in the lore it makes no sence, did you know after the forsaken enslave a laod of gilneas people and raize more into undeath having invaded gilneas plus ashenvale attacked with an attempt to assassinate Tyrande and everything else, the Varian short story has Jaina try to lecture Varian on being to forceful on the horde and the author makes us try and think Anduin is in the right alongside Jaina for raging at Varian for "warmongering" I facepalmed hard at this to be honest, the short story was really aweful almost as bad as the Tyrande one. in fact the geblin story was the best alliance short story with the worgen one being second and dwarves getting an honourable mention : D |
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Oh? Don't you know that Varian is a racist/brute/idiot for even SUGGESTING that the Alliance should at least TRY to resist us? Don't you read the forums? ^^ |
I have a sneaking suspicion you are a die hard alliance supporter from my own heart : D sure you hide behind the savage troll poster but im betting you got an elegant night elf hehe and before cata many did blast Varian but since then people have begun to realise Varians lore is in the comics and other media so he seems so rageholic (simpsons said it, so I consider it a word) in game but that is not his character |
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I'm not favoring either side, actually, I just find it silly that so many die-hard Horde players name the Alliance racists for not just giving up and letting us kill them and their children. :-)
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