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Personally he's one of my favourite characters, and I'm not sure if he's been abandoned or not. I know that he has been greiving over his dead son, Drannosh. But will he have a possible role in MoP or has he been in a recent book I've missed. If any of you have any speculations I'd like you to share them with me.

My money is on Garrosh killing him. They tried to hastily write him out of the narrative with Cataclysm because of his promise about killing Garrosh with "He's mourning for his son" which struck me as lazy.

That or he'll just become one of Thrall's lieutenants again.

Well, there was a speculation that during the siege of Orgimmar when they've dealt with Hellscream the Alliance kill another important Horde person, which starts the great war. I thought that that might be him. But he's a great character and I'd love to see more of him.

I'm with you Gunnell, Garrosh is going to bury gorehowl in his chest in either a honourable duel or a rage induced fit that would basically be an act of outright murder.

So he will return in MoP, possibly to help bring Garrosh down. But Garrosh will slay him which will anger Thrall?

I think he'll speak out against Garrosh or even outright challenge Garrosh and Garrosh will either defeat him in their challenge or murder him for speaking out.

I've said this in other threads but i'll repeat it here. Blizz will probably (and indeed hopefully) put in game something where we know that Garrosh has finally gone off the deep end.

In Star Wars Episode III even when you had Anakin kneeling before Palpatine and saying 'lol me am evubl nao' (he may as well have, bloody rubbish movie, the book was WAY better) you still thought, oh thats Anakin just being a badly written emo wreck.

Five minutes later he's murdering kids and you was like 'Oh...so yeah...he's EVIL!'

With Garrosh I hope they do something similar, not just a sudden lurch into RAWR EVIL FOR NO APPARENT REASON! but a noticable change. That point when you know 'oh he's bad now..gotta stop him!' will, I say, be him burying Gorehowl in Saurfangs chest. Or..if they want to make him really bad. In Saurfangs back.

I still want Varok Saurfang to be remembered. Or he should be the next warchief.

Maybe Garrosh killing Saurfang, a beloved horde general who is respected by so many including Thrall could be one of the last straws that causes the Horde to snap and finally retaliate. Obviously a large amount of Orcs ( mainly young I would assume ) will side with Garrosh along with his access to millitery equipment through the entire of Ogrimmar, will cause the Horde to ask for help from the Alliance. The Alliance will adore the chance to take down Garrosh so will accept without hesitation. It will be kind of like wrathgate where they unite to face a common enemy.

I can see the young orcs maybe following garrosh. The older orcs and the other races would go against him. But maybe Varok Saurfang is one of the first to speak against Garrosh and Garrosh get's rid of him.

I dont understand why he needs to be a raid or whatever, I mean if every other race is going against him. Im pretty sure Sylvanas or Vol'jin could do it alone and surely if any individual race did it alone the others would back them up.

I always figured if anyone the Forsaken would do it, they just dont seem to think about the consequences like the Trolls say for example. I can see it now, Sylvanas stepping out from the shadows behind his throne and slitting his throat then Forsaken assassins come out and surround the room to make sure no one gets in there way.

I will be honest, i think he will die soon.

I mean consider this, he is very old and hs sworn to put Garrosh in a grave if he does what he will do in MOP. Somehow the idea of him dying and making the younger orcs realize that they should actually feel empathy for what their race has done recently as Saurfang flatly stated the veterans suffer as they remember what they did and he cannot eat pork as he remembers draenei children squeeling..

so what better way to get the horde back into Thralls "redeeming monsters" kind of horde than a good matyr and an example for them?

plus due to his age it stands to reason he cannot be around in lore much longer, and hm dying in a bed of old age seems kind of anticlimatic.

If Saurfang does get killed by Garrosh as I said, Ulgrim you're probably right, that would cause the split in Ogrimmar between those loyal to Garrosh and those who realise just how close to the precipice they are once more and they would then go join Baine and Vol'jin I assume and in turn the Horde's civil war would begin.

07/04/2012 17:14Posted by Attarn

If Saurfang does get killed by Garrosh as I said, Ulgrim you're probably right, that would cause the split in Ogrimmar between those loyal to Garrosh and those who realise just how close to the precipice they are once more and they would then go join Baine and Vol'jin I assume and in turn the Horde's civil war would begin.

you know what is ironic? I totally called this and what would happen including a horde civil war which the alliance would have to participate in a while back.

The thing is back then I had a hard time justifying why the alliance would get involved/care at all.

But as it is too soon to tell do people think it likely the alliance attacks but does not exactly help Thrall become warchief but goes after all horde and Thrall comes out on top after the horde takes a severe beating and the alliance fall back?

because that would be a huge alliance victory without us having to theorycraft on why aafter all this the alliance and horde are willing to even talk to each other let alone work together instead of shooting on sight.

07/04/2012 17:23Posted by Redemptioner

If Saurfang does get killed by Garrosh as I said, Ulgrim you're probably right, that would cause the split in Ogrimmar between those loyal to Garrosh and those who realise just how close to the precipice they are once more and they would then go join Baine and Vol'jin I assume and in turn the Horde's civil war would begin.

you know what is ironic? I totally called this and what would happen including a horde civil war which the alliance would have to participate in a while back.

The thing is back then I had a hard time justifying why the alliance would get involved/care at all.

But as it is too soon to tell do people think it likely the alliance attacks but does not exactly help Thrall become warchief but goes after all horde and Thrall comes out on top after the horde takes a severe beating and the alliance fall back?

because that would be a huge alliance victory without us having to theorycraft on why aafter all this the alliance and horde are willing to even talk to each other let alone work together instead of shooting on sight.

Perhaps, and this is just an interesting theory of mine.... After the siege the Alliance and Horde faction leaders are together with there individual troops, a fight breaks out between everyone except the Orcs and Humans causing them to try split it up for the greater good? This would leave an interesting plot twist since the Orcs/Humans get all the lore when it comes to the war. This in turn could lead to lore for races such as the Blood elves or Gnomes after this conflict erupts with more hostility between them. It would also give the Alliance a victory if they do enough damage? way of topic but still ;)

I'd like to think its a battle where both sides are attacking, Varian and co to try and literally behead the leadership of the Horde, whilst Thrall and co are attacking to overthrow Garrosh and try and regain control instead of both sides being super secret unicorn best friends for ever club working together.

He was killed in a freak accident involving a Fjord Turkey, a glass of South Island Iced Tea and some low-quality masonry work. A tragic loss and a sad end to one of the Horde's greatest heroes.

Indeed, it's so sad that Garrosh (as a favour to a dear friend) has been keeping it hush hush and requisitioned a Target Dummy wearing Saurfang's armour and a sign reading "I don't eat pork. *spit*" hanging from its neck to stand in Hellscream Hold.

So far, no-one has looked too closely.

Saurfang for Warchief - 2012

Possibly never return or return forever as Warchief.
He leads the Horde forces,what's left of them,in Northrend atm and if Thrall doesn't come back which is most likely he may be the next warchief of the Horde...

Well can't only Orcs be warchief? If that's so and if Thrall doesn't take up the bruden of Warchief I can see it being Varok. But I really hope he's involved in MoP as I really like him as a character aswell as the fact he doesn't blame the the demon blood for the crimes he commited. But I'd love him to be warchief. But do you guys think Blizzard will forget about him? Or do you think he will atleast get a decent ending?

My money is on Garrosh killing him. They tried to hastily write him out of the narrative with Cataclysm because of his promise about killing Garrosh with "He's mourning for his son" which struck me as lazy.

That or he'll just become one of Thrall's lieutenants again.

Yeah, seems likely. Saurfang was pretty well written in my opinion, and an intriguing character. Yet he never struck me as the type to retreat and mourn his son, but rather to use such an experience to further his son's cause and fight on in his name.