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Just played beta. Extremly disapointed
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Edited by Mírion on 11/04/12 11:18 (BST)
Rets are alot better on beta then live, noway to even discuss as people that haven't even played the beta will come and QQ.
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Edited by Gannet on 11/04/12 10:42 (BST)
I starting to doubt your reading capability. Ive stated it several times now... Our aoe is a PERCENTAGE number, as in it wont change at all even if you're lvl 10 or you are 90...50% weapon dmg will always be 50% not matter what weapon or lvl you are. And like i stated it several times now ..that NUMBER can change and regarding scaling with level even on live changes with level (rogue ambush for example) ..i'm not surprised you don't understand, i already said at this point at this point i start repeating cause you already forgot what you read in the first post, but rationality just isn't your thing while in /whine mode. This isn't about your negative tone, it`s about your purpose. Yes i did play a retri on beta and it`s far from what you describe, since this is just a small part that doesn't have much impact on it as a whole. This isn't the current state of the paladin, you're trying to bull!@#$ yourself and everybody reading this who didn't play on beta ..you're the one who should snap out of it. And you're also calling me deluded while making a whine post trying to convince the devs to buff your paladins based on your biased so-called "feedback" ? |
Ok, lets se what you commented in the first post based on the results they gather from testing dungeons and raids Thats right.. you are the ONLY one who cant do basic math. You are the ONLY one who belives it need testing while its a GIVEN FACT you need 6 or more mobs to gain dmg over our single target attack. When your aoe require that many target it is broken, since you never fight that many at the same time...why are you defending this ? Logic isnt your thing while... well, at all. Then you are telling me my information is inaccurate. I've asked over and over again.. wich part of the information ive shared isnt correct ? If you cant answer this you just as deluded that i belive you are. Ah right.. like wanting viable aoe dmg i want to be OP.. wanting TV to be usable with lesser HoPo/lesser dmg i want to be OP... want my asthetic glyphs not to be just a priest animation ripoff i want to be OP... You keept acussing me of wanting to be OP several times now.. where are my Overpowered suggestions i want implented ? |
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i tray beta with copy of this pala and this gear
and first impresion is OMG, im stronger and better i can use AOE attack, i can manage to fight with 5 mobs in same time (in cata 3 85 is to much) selfheal is great, and with new skills rogue will finaly cry against ret pala (muhahahaha) and impression is Panda Ret is imba against Cata Retri It is a sad fact that blizzard will nerf Paladin before expansion It would be too good not to destroy him. :-( |
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i tray beta with copy of this pala and this gear If it's nerfed a little bit, then so be it. I'm just happy to finally get a better feeling back instead of playing Bingo. |
Yet another ignorant poster... how can my "facts" be wrong about HotR when i havent made a single comment about it ? In all honesty i belive its a bug that its accessible for all specs in the Beta, therefor not worth on commenting on. But even if it is available for all spec's it sure as hell wont be preferd before CS (since they share CD) in a AoE situation since it require 9 or more targets to be a dmg increase compared to CS.. and that just happens so often. As ppl arent that bright and probably will draw the paralel that i think HotR suck just couse the AoE dmg is bad, i will state straight away that i dont belive HotR is useless just couse the aoe dmg is low. The 10% physical reduction will be useful in a PvP situation against melee. |
Yet another ignorant poster... how can my "facts" be wrong about HotR when i havent made a single comment about it ? Not everybody agrees with you. I don't, several do, most don't. Your ignorance disgusts me. Not only - You don't post on your paladin, you choose to post on a faceless level 1 rogue to protect your forum identity. You're right. 50% weapon damage as an aoe will ALWAYS be 50% weapon damage. The output damage increases as you get a better weapon, but obviously will still only do 50% of the current weapon damage. You also don't seem to understand the fact that the numbers are by NO MEANS FINAL and are LIKELY TO CHANGE Also, if you're that bothered about it. Stop playing the beta, quit or just wait for live. |
Alright. Show me where you manage to get that piece of information please.. oh wait.. 86% of inaccurate information is made up on the spot. Forum identity ? Good one.. couse posting on a lvl 85 would just make you know everything about me, my belives and values here in life... You also don't seem to understand the fact that the numbers are by NO MEANS FINAL and are LIKELY TO CHANGESure i get that, but... BREAKING NEWS.. unless someone actually give blizzard feedback on what is currently wrong with a class or spec NOTHING will change. Sure, you might want another "scourge strike" fiasco... Being reported for weeks about being OP on the beta.. nothing happens, it goes live and nerfed so hard the day after that UH wasnt a viable arena spec for the rest of that expansion. You se, even if you DO report things the chance is quite high it will be ignored by blizzard anyway...But atleast i have tried by making a topic if what i belive is wrong with retri on the beta... And that my friend, is more then you can say you have done for the class. |
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Edited by Bruceelee on 12/04/12 08:57 (BST)
This is funny. Properly ,you should never use TV with less than 3HP ,anyway. Yes i'm speaking about current 4.3 & on ,unless something changes in future. After reading this ,i somehow can't take your Post seriously (well not whole ,but well...). i wonder... i'd like to add : I think Retri should have 2 HP generators. 1 normal and 1 through Talent or something. That's the only way that kept us "worthy" in Pvp so far. Cause of Lack of other Abilities. But yea ,we'll have to see it 1st. i just hope they won't be fixin us for Whole Expansion again & it'll be balanced Faster somehow. |
This is funny. Properly ,you should never use TV with less than 3HP ,anyway. Yes i'm speaking about current 4.3 & on ,unless something changes in future. Hi bruce. The problem with the WoW community is that they lack imagination and often cant think longer then the nose reach, a figure of speech in my country. But do not threat bruce i will lay it down for you. The reason why i want to be able to use TV with lesser HoPo's is mainly becouse of PvP. It's on more then 1 occation ive managed to finish of a low healer with 1 or 2 HoPo. That's why i want the gaps between HoPo's to be smaller.. sure it should still yeild max DPS with 3 HoPo, but you shouldnt have to be punished so severe for using it without. Paladins already have extremly hard to take down a healer by themself without any MS effect, why make it harder. Locking it at 3 HoPo's dumbs down the class and lower the skillcap even further.. like we wherent the laughingstock already for our simple gameplay. How do you think rogues would react if eviscerate was locked at 5 CP's. |
Well ,you got Hammer of Wrath ,Judgement or CrusaderStrike for that. Atleast 1 of those 3 should be Ready (off the CD). But ok np ; you use it...i wouldn't. HolyPower is to good to be Wasted. Should be used for Max output only. Either for Word of Glory ,or TV. |
I find Ret to be much better already in MoP than it is in Cataclysm. In Cata, it's like playing Whack-a-mole, struggling to push all the procs occurs. No feeling of control. This. So far Ret is looknig good in beta. And I hope it stays this way. No CD WoG and the capability to stack 5 Holy power. And every move generating holy power is what it needed in the first place. The OP is complaining about not being able to be a healer loool. and not having great AOE? when has Ret ever had good AoE? or any melee for that matter? other than DKs AoE for melee is always been pretty weak and i dont care if it stays that way. I hate donig AoE anyway. I prefer single target damage dealing and always will. |
Can you please link where i stated that ? Apparantly your reading skills is on par with your pvp skills.. why bother commenting on things when you seem unable to process the information you have aquired. I have stated i would like Holy light back.. a weak heal with long cast. If you think for a second that would make retri a healing spec, your knowledge about paladin class mechanic's is so infinite small you should never have an opinion about this class.
Yet another ignorant statement...AoE amongs melee havent been weak since TBC... that quite a few years ago...Today every single melee have very good aoe capability, paladins is probably the weakest but its still decent. Maybe get some basic facts before making a fool out of yourself. Maybe i sound abit negative.. but i really despise ignorant and stupid ppl. FYI that doesnt necessarily means you Darkade.. even if that might be my opinion or not. |
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Are you really going to bash someeones "skils" on a alt? Wow you're cool dude. |
Are you really going to bash someeones "skils" on a alt? Wow you're cool dude. A moment of weakness, granteed... But its just as bad commenting on things without actually read or comprehend the piece of information. So i will say it was justified this one time. |
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So anyway, will ret have more buttons to press in MOP? I've not kept up to date but I feel like ret is more reactive than proactive.
I honestly don't think the spec's role will change (from fighter/healer/support), so players should always keep that in mind tbh. |
