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I want the ability to kick ppl in bgs
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never really thought of that before, but its a great idea. Makes it so people with less gear aren't getting ganked every time they respawn. But this whole kicking people from BGs thing wouldn't work, it will be abused to kick players that are not necessarily liked, but are good players. And will also be abused to kick people with blues or greens, it just wouldn't work :> |
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Same reason as why I dont want the fresh dinged 85 in my BG (FACT) You are possible the biggest bellend to ever type something on this forum (FACT :P) How the hell did you get your gear if you weren't a freshly dinged 85 in BGs? I didn't get my gear by buying it off AH because its pointless, the gear on AH isn't even that good and you can get much better gear by doing a few BGs, sorry bro not spending my money on the retards putting gear up for massive amounts, id rather do it the old fashioned way and do BGs, now suck my balls.(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT)(FACT) __ /oo\ | . | VICTORY \__/ WHEEL \| CHAIR ||I WIN /¯\\ ___ | . |¯¯\ \_ \_/ O |
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they have to start somewhere... even you my lord have been there. How would you feel if you're doing random bgs new dinged and they keep kicking you so you can't get any gear?...
much better solution! |
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Edited by Jadiss on 14/04/12 02:18 (BST)
I think we'll never see a tool like that... ppl abuse "Report AFK" button already to kick, especially if you are with a premade group. I have to be honest, tho... I'm not tired of ppl on green gear. I'm tired of handicapped ppl with their brain totally smashed, especially when you read in chat "LoL... take 'em alone, f.ucking blood reroller." after you wrote "Inc 4 at BS, need some help here." In this case yes... I'd like to see the "Vote for Kick from BG" button become to real...
Unfortunately bg's pvp is utterly ruined by retards, noobs, bots and whatsoever and havin' this tool will make elitist imbecils abuse it just because you don't reach 9000k resilience or you're not doing 30M damage. So we have to deal with this and hope not to join a retarded party. About low-mid geared ppl blizzy may pop a 3000 minimum resi option to join "competitive" bgs, otherwise they'll join random ones with same geared ppl against an equal geared faction. Sounds fair... even if queues may result a bit longer, tho. EDIT: Grammar |
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It's random BGs with random people you don't know, any type of team work you get in there is a bonus.
To not have any type of understanding as to why someone might not have the skill level and or gear you think is require to play the coarse at par, shows that person lack of understanding between Rated and Random BGs. |
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Edited by Multhirius on 14/04/12 03:34 (BST)
I haven't read all the pages, But i get the general argument.
PvE has a kick because if you're grouped with a player, be it a tank, dps, or healer. If they do something wrong in certain engagements, because they either don't know the tactics or their gear is too low, it flat out STOPS you from progressing, nobody gets anything done, no gear is acquired. that person has to be kicked. if you cant defeat a pre designed encounter intended to be defeated, there's a clear obstacle that has to be removed. the dysfunctional player. The kick function is there because it's necessary for people to progress. albeit, it does get abused, but that's another story. In PvP, that problem doesn't exist. Your opponents are other players, if you have slackers or people who are incapable, the enemy team also has a chance to have these same idiots. if your team is full of idiots and your enemies team isn't, tough luck. You still get honor, you still eventually get gear, nobody in that battleground is stopping you from progressing, they might be stopping you from winning, But that's besides the point, the other team has the same chance of having the same advantage, It's not blizzards fault you couldn't carry them. Implementing a kick function isn't necessary and would just have it be abused by 5 man premades. I also don't agree with implementing gear based matchmaking for Random BG's either, I like the advantage i get for getting the gear, making my enemies more difficult as i gear up defeats the point of gearing up, and would encourage people to manipulate their ilvl to get in the "low ilvl" BG. Also, If you're full cata and sick of getting matched with "fresh dings" or "scrubs" Then either get a good premade or go back to arenas. Stop whining because you can't carry as good as the other team. tldr: No ilvl matchmaking, no kick, learn to carry. |
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No. If you want non-random perfect groups, you go rated bg's with a premade.
My reasons for being against is in every naysayers post here. |
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No. If you want non-random perfect groups, you go rated bg's with a premade. you believe that those people can actually do rated? they lack any sign of bravery thats for sure. |
Ok so in pve you can be kicked and in pvp dont?Let me tell you some things that i am sure happend to all of us. resilience isn't the be all and end off for everything in PVP. why in gods name your crying is beyond me. if you have 4k res ior full PvE gear it makes the difference of dying by what about 5 seconds ?. like stated everyone starts somewhere. some players refuse to run PvE so ding 85 and just full PvP, i have done this on my rogue i refused to buy the "blue" quality pvp gear not because i dont have the gold but i wanted to see how long it would take me to get pvp geared. currently needing 1 trinket for pvp all other gear is PvP apart from weapons. current time played 9 days i've been away on holiday too for 1 week dont actually play that char that much to PvP. The kick function is actually there be it they have to be afk admittedly and yes it can be frustrating that players aren't "up to spec with gear" but you were once freshly dinged and you can't tell me for one minute that you got all pvp gear to pvp with when uyou decided you wanted to pvp becuase some items just arent available BoE. skill>gear i'm no great elitist i'm no great pvper i just play for fun or at least try to. what boils my urine ? players refusing to even use a heal button. if i play on paladin as prot as pvp which i'll add is very rare now due to they have wrecked the experience if i see someone on lowish health i'll heal them up that same player could save me and my yeam the game. its a damn shame others just dont do it. |
Yes like title says i want the ability to vote kick ppl in random bg.Random dungenons and LFR have this options to kick ppl,if you dont like their gear or performance,why not same ability for random bgs?Do Premades simple as that |
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Edited by Keynes on 14/04/12 07:51 (BST)
The average WoW-player simply is too retarded to manage such a function.
Besides, who the heck are you going to check if someone knows their class in the first 2 minutes? Most Wow-players knows next to nothing even about their own 1-2 main chars, and even less about other classes. Who am I to kick a prot-geared warrior who might run the most fantastic intercept and CC for the FC in a random BG, just because HE AINT GOT A 2 HANDER EQUIPPED. Yesterday someone was moaning over two warriors who were playing fury, yet they had brought along a disc priest and preceded to absolutely dominate a Eye of the storm BG. No, if you want to play with elites, the game offers plenty of solutions to this. You can join with friends, you can play arena, you can play RBG. Leave casuals to casuals BG and free us from this bull-%^-*. Btw, i'd vote-kick you out, just because you are frost-spec, which in my eyes equal a great lack of skill. How'd you feel about that? |
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The difference is. You know you're going to win the Dungeon/LFR. No matter if some are bads. A wipe doesn't mean game over.
In a BG each player carries more responsibility and there are no room for slackers/bots/badly geared players. Another idea is to only give the BG leader the power to start a vote kick. Although that would require changes to be made on the selection process of BG leaders. You don't want a bot as a leader :p Good idea (Mostly because of bots) but hard to implement |
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I think some of the parts in this text is good, especially the bot part, since bots seldom gets kicked by reporting them afk, but some people with wierd gear might have been hacked or something so they don't have any other gear
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Guess what, you are also on my time and money? You might think your are superspeshul and the game revolves around you but it doesn't. You can leave your snobby teenage hormone-infused attitude at home, as its much more annoying than anything else. |
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@Lexibelle.Insulting me just because i have an opinion just show who are the idiot between us.
Someone says i am elitist asking such thinks.No,i am not what i am asking its logical and decent. Yes i do rated bgs,yes i do arenas,and pve,but that have nothing to do with random bg.To join rated bgs,arenas,raids,you need experience and gear,its not RANDOM. When you join a RANDOM,you have to know that RANDOM ppl might not like to play with you. Besides that vote is most democratic tool ever,majority decides everywhere in democratic world. As i said should be for 10vs10 like 7-8 votes or even 9/9 to be able to kick someone,its enough 1 vote against kick and he stay. You have to start somewhere to gear up i am agree with this,thats why i said that need a special braket for those new dinged and green/blue geared. |
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@Jafra.So no contra-arguments to my ideea just insulting?
Ok. |
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Edited by Jafra on 14/04/12 09:05 (BST)
Its the perfect counterargument for your bigotry in your opening post. It was all i needed to read. If you want to have a constructive discussion i suggest you edit things like that out, as it makes you look like i described above.
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First one who should be kicked from this game concerning PVP are mages and especially frost ones as yourself, that is unbalanced, ultra OP class with endless CC and mobility, so start kicking yourself from the game with your 2 button class.
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@Jafra.You still didnt argument why my opinion isnt logical.Coz you dont like my atitude its not and valid argument.
Some ppl here are against my opinion and they argument why not.And even i dont agree with them i respect their option. |
