Topic the School of Hard Knocks for the childrens week
Ayun
Darkmoon Faire
Ayun
90 Night Elf Rogue
11185
keep coming into the battllounds, i love doing 45k ambushes during shadowdance on pve players.

but on a serious note, this achie should just be removed from the meta, the wsg, ab is easily doable, but i can see how pve players struggle with alterac valley and eye of the storm achie.
Ivanapulse
Terenas
Ivanapulse
87 Undead Mage
7680
i hate pvp, i have always hated pvp, i dont do pvp but after spending years working my way to get my proto drake i am finally stuck on the school of hard knocks achie... i have attempted to do it but i have now had to resign myself to never getting my drake because of this stupid achie.. blizzard, im not a newbie, im a long term customer and im not a happy bunny. i really thought that after a couple of years the complaints to you in regard to the school of hard knocks achie would have given you the idea that ppl are not happy... the pvpers are not happy cos pve'ers wreck their battles, pve'ers dont stand a chance to get their drake... come on blizz get rid of this stupid required achie plz
Mixeren
Twisting Nether
Mixeren
90 Pandaren Hunter
17455
Make a premade grp and do it in turns
Kelera
Defias Brotherhood
Kelera
89 Troll Druid
10125
I really dislike this achievement and hate pvp, I wont be completing it out of principle. This is sad because all i need for what a long strange trip is children's week and merrymaker.

I would like to see this achievement changed from requiring very specific actions like capping a dropped flag or asulting a tower to something simpler and not encouraging selfish behavior like simply winning the respective battle grounds.

In short i agree with 90% of the player base that this achievement needs removing/reworking.
Sugarytreat
Silvermoon
Sugarytreat
90 Draenei Death Knight
12400
Love how the "pro" PvPers in the thread are saying stop being bad. Seems to PvP you can't read any longer. It's not about being "bad". It's about latency. Bad latency = one long wait and hope and a prayer you get to click first. Nothing with being "bad" about that.
Eggs
Outland
Eggs
85 Night Elf Hunter
11200
av is a god damn nightmare for me, my comp is a hand me down from fred flinstone so by the time i get to the towers they're already capped :P

brilliant time for my other computer to blow up, i love you computer gremlins.
Kyrîos
Kazzak
Kyrîos
90 Blood Elf Paladin
19000
29/04/2012 12:12Posted by Sugarytreat
Love how the "pro" PvPers in the thread are saying stop being bad. Seems to PvP you can't read any longer. It's not about being "bad". It's about latency. Bad latency = one long wait and hope and a prayer you get to click first. Nothing with being "bad" about that.

please spare me th BS excuses that you have, you see no one QQing about changing persistant defender or frenzied defender cuz of MS problems yet i see you whine about it, to me all i hear is I WANT MY APPLE JUICE NOW!!
Vanker
Lightbringer
Vanker
75 Human Rogue
7085
This must make the the pro pvpers happy

they have easy targets now
SO HARDCOREno really you guys have zero skill to think you have any vs PvE during this rubbish world event.
Valthosa
Argent Dawn
Valthosa
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
2220
You can't really defend the achievement from a PvP point of view, it promotes counter-intuitive behavior in AB and EoTS.

Well. Less counter-intuitive than fighting in the middle, but still.
Sugarytreat
Silvermoon
Sugarytreat
90 Draenei Death Knight
12400
29/04/2012 12:23Posted by Kyrîos
Love how the "pro" PvPers in the thread are saying stop being bad. Seems to PvP you can't read any longer. It's not about being "bad". It's about latency. Bad latency = one long wait and hope and a prayer you get to click first. Nothing with being "bad" about that.

please spare me th BS excuses that you have, you see no one QQing about changing persistant defender or frenzied defender cuz of MS problems yet i see you whine about it, to me all i hear is I WANT MY APPLE JUICE NOW!!
BS excuses? I got my achieve, twice. Everything BUT AV is not too bad. AB CAN be, and WSG is a real pita if you have no sense of teamwork, but AV is a different can of worms. First time it took me 2 days of non-stop farming AV to get a tower to assault. It REALLY has nothing to do with skill. If you think otherwise, you're deluded. You have to hope you mount up AT the same time as everyone else at the beginning, or within microseconds of it, and you have to hope that you make it up some stairs or whatever before someone else does, and CLICK before they do. IF you make it at the same time and your latency is crap, you're SOL. Tell me, what skill is involved in that? None, zip, zilch, and nada.

BOTH times, there was some nice soul on the Horde helping the alliance with it. And vice versa. For those that are out there HELPING others, even tho they are of the opposite faction, kudos, you're a blessed soul. For those out there for easy kills on PvE geared players, whatever floats your boat.
Ronun
Darkmoon Faire
Ronun
85 Night Elf Druid
10330
got mine in first AV i did. some friendly hordes recapped towers and let the alliance take it, hats of to them.
Darkshied
Khadgar
Darkshied
90 Worgen Death Knight
8775
Edited by Darkshied on 29/04/12 13:00 (BST)
Well I've spent 2 years being PWNed in PvP trying to get it... It is literally driving me insane... You could atleast make it optional... Thou why am I trying, nobody cares if I get it or not, people care about nothing else than that they get their HP... oh and they also care about picking me out and ignoring everyone else because the know I'm trying to get this achi...
The whole achi is a f***ing pain in the a**...
Kyrîos
Kazzak
Kyrîos
90 Blood Elf Paladin
19000
you must misunderstood something, me and Asmobot didnt say that those who whine suck at pvp, we said bad at this game, why? well you explained it yourself it require next to no skill and no gear to return a flag in wsg which is the majority of the players here trying to make it sounds like RNG based or require alot of pvp gear and you still whine at such an easy achi when other achievements are 100 times more annoying?
Vanker
Lightbringer
Vanker
75 Human Rogue
7085
29/04/2012 13:01Posted by Kyrîos
you must misunderstood something, me and Asmobot didnt say that those who whine suck at pvp, we said bad at this game, why? well you explained it yourself it require next to no skill and no gear to return a flag in wsg which is the majority of the players here trying to make it sounds like RNG based or require alot of pvp gear and you still whine at such an easy achi when other achievements are 100 times more annoying?
Latency
it said hello

All objective is Latency based, connection bad?
wait this next year!

really blizzard needs to remove this one, or change it to number of kills in said location.
Ronun
Darkmoon Faire
Ronun
85 Night Elf Druid
10330
Latency
it said hello

All objective is Latency based, connection bad?
wait this next year!
that is not blizzards fault.
Sugarytreat
Silvermoon
Sugarytreat
90 Draenei Death Knight
12400
29/04/2012 13:01Posted by Kyrîos
you must misunderstood something, me and Asmobot didnt say that those who whine suck at pvp, we said bad at this game, why? well you explained it yourself it require next to no skill and no gear to return a flag in wsg which is the majority of the players here trying to make it sounds like RNG based or require alot of pvp gear and you still whine at such an easy achi when other achievements are 100 times more annoying?
And how many times does it take to get explained to you to understand that the frustration lies not within the fact that one must "PvP" but that if your connection is crap, that this becomes a long grindfest with no hope except that you get lucky that there's a nice person on the other side.

It's the same crap as the easter event. Connection sucks? Sucks to be you.

And Ronun, you're right, it's not Blizz's fault, but they can easily change the achievement to require something other than a good connection, which has nothing to do with will to grind or skill, but who your ISP is and where you live.
Hatredsheart
Lightning's Blade
Hatredsheart
90 Orc Warlock
12745
Third year on the trot I won't be getting the drake solely because of this achieve.
It serves no purpose other than to force the section of the playerbase that hates pvp to participate in it, and to royally p*ss off the section that do enjoy pvp by having their matches ruined by ppl trying for the achieve.
For example, just spent an entire warsong gulch with 8/10 players camping the flagroom with orphans. Score at end, 0 captures. Happened again last year, and the one before.
Ppl aren't complaining for the sake of it Blizz. PLEASE remove this sh*t from the Children's Week achieve.

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