Topic (Locked) Symbiosis, a complete joke
Kjlkaöd
The Maelstrom
Kjlkaöd
1 Gnome Rogue
0
Edited by Kjlkaöd on 17/04/12 03:25 (BST)
17/04/2012 01:00Posted by Pápábill
Next time post with your main clown

After looking at your gear i've decided you dont own the right to call anyone a clown. Or its possible you dont know the definition of it. You are closer then me on that point.

16/04/2012 13:34Posted by Temes
Funny how a lvl1 complains about a lvl87 ability

Funny how a warlock comments in a druid forum.

Please do try and read what i've actually wrote in my main post (i know, use brain make head hurt) and try to comprehend the information and what im trying to point out.

If you wanna troll, go for it.. but then atleast try to troll succesfully. This whine is closer to attention whoring and its honestly quite pathetic.
Celebriana
Argent Dawn
Celebriana
90 Night Elf Druid
16135
17/04/2012 03:25Posted by Kjlkaöd
Funny how a warlock comments in a druid forum.

Funny how a rogue level 1 posts it on Druid forum. Have some guts and show yourself.
17/04/2012 03:25Posted by Kjlkaöd
Please do try and read what i've actually wrote in my main post (i know, use brain make head hurt) and try to comprehend the information and what im trying to point out.

No. I'm tired of people going emo, wasting their time and messing up their own day by complaining about something that is only Beta and wont go live in next few months. Wait and see. Stop !@#$%ing.
17/04/2012 03:25Posted by Kjlkaöd
This whine is closer to attention whoring and its honestly quite pathetic.

Exactly what you're doing. So sad.
Kjlkaöd
The Maelstrom
Kjlkaöd
1 Gnome Rogue
0
17/04/2012 10:19Posted by Celebriana
Have some guts and show yourself.

This is my forum char. Dont like it ? Dont read my posts then, no one is forcing you.

17/04/2012 10:19Posted by Celebriana
No. I'm tired of people going emo, wasting their time and messing up their own day by complaining about something that is only Beta and wont go live in next few months. Wait and see. Stop !@#$%ing.

Its ppl like you that ruins this game.

If ppl would do what you are suggesting, "wait and se", there wouldnt be any kind of feedback about MoP the game would go live and be horrible. Im tired of ppl going emo when they dont even frekin know whats the beta is for... If i dont raise my voice today about OP abilites there is a possibility it will go live OP. Since your intellect is only a fracture of mine your reason is "yes i want my OP abilites".. sure i can relate to that, being OP can be fun for awhile and you can fool yourself that your actually skilled, like frost mages today.

But the problem is as always, if a ability is extremly OP and still go live i can bet my left arm it wont be nerfed to a "balanced" level, no... It will be overnerfed as always as a bandaid solution untill the next major patch. This happens almost every time and if played as long as i have you should know. I raise this issue becouse i have a druid myself and dont want my 87 ability to be a joke if blizzard let it go live in its current state.
Rommul
Al'Akir
Rommul
90 Tauren Druid
12090
One word... BETA

Now stop trolling and go somewhere else chicken!@#$.
Kjlkaöd
The Maelstrom
Kjlkaöd
1 Gnome Rogue
0
One word... BETA

Now stop trolling and go somewhere else chicken!@#$.


Your insignificant intellect dont comprehend what point a Beta plays, you just contradicted yourself but you are unable to understand it...pls crawl back under the rock you came from untill you actually know what you are talking about.
Kousetsu
Ragnaros
Kousetsu
90 Worgen Druid
3345
rofl gotta love a level 1 alt doing armor police on someone else. come to think of it perhaps i should make some diffirent level 1 alt and then cry on every other class forum how their new abilities are a complete joke. should even it out a little :)
Spéédyswééty
Agamaggan
Spéédyswééty
70 Orc Shaman
8470
Druid + Bubble + HS xD.
Cheshirecat
Mazrigos
Cheshirecat
90 Blood Elf Hunter
8350
That lvl 1 is pretty much owning all your silly and argument-vacant faces.
I wholehartedly agree with the OP.
Seeing as how blizzard can't balance 10 classes in PvP while adding an 11th and a spell that turns all the balance upside down, it's pretty obvious to me that this shouldn't be in the game.

Buuut having this discussion with pve players is futile....
Kousetsu
Ragnaros
Kousetsu
90 Worgen Druid
3345
Edited by Kousetsu on 17/04/12 20:48 (BST)
Orly? well if he's so concerned about this ability making it from beta to live, why doesnt he post it on the beta forums then, or better yet contribute to the thread already there. clearly, if you're going to make it here hiding behind your level 1 'forum toon' with a title like that, either you are just wanting to QQ or are just trolling. Next.
Hyená
Nagrand
Hyená
90 Night Elf Druid
8765
whatever the druid gets, the other gets something also, its almost like people are asking to not get buffed
Kjlkaöd
The Maelstrom
Kjlkaöd
1 Gnome Rogue
0
17/04/2012 20:35Posted by Kousetsu
Orly? well if he's so concerned about this ability making it from beta to live, why doesnt he post it on the beta forums then, or better yet contribute to the thread already there

I have but on a friends acc. At the time i wasnt at my home and couldnt log in due to authenticator. But that is irrelevant since i in first hand wanted feedback from the druid community what they think about this ability, thats why i made this post. But the average intellect on the druid communty seems quite low.

if you're going to make it here hiding behind your level 1 'forum toon' with a title like that, either you are just wanting to QQ or are just trolling. Next.

With that said you could classify every single thread a QQ/troll thread.

Commenting on what toon i post on is probably one of the most stupid things you could do. "Hes not druid or 85 wtf his points cant be true".. thats pretty much what you are saying. Its no different from you, you are "hiding" behind a crapy alt that you post on.. but just becouse your alt is a druid, what difference does that make ?

I can post on my druid if i chose to, but from a logic point of view please tell me how that would change anything about this thread. If your answer contains a fracture of intellect and are well expressed yet holds a point that speaks for you, i will consider using my druid instead then. But if you cant and QQ'ing about my forum toon is the only thing you can do... well, then you're more of troll then i am.
Pwntform
Hellscream
Pwntform
89 Troll Druid
6185
Hehe the amount of threads about this is unreal.

As a pver i dont like to see so much stuff being taken away because of the PvP community in a primarily pve game but if im totaly honest this ability looks amazingly lack luster as do many of the new druid talents in MoP So im not huuugely fussed about it allthough it is something i would like to keep, why? becase a raid buff is a buff even if its just me getting detternce to take less damage in a fight or something,
Lefrena
Sunstrider
Lefrena
90 Tauren Druid
17395
Edited by Lefrena on 18/04/12 06:56 (BST)
1. They have nerfed symbiosis.

2. You have lots of grammar mistakes which is adorable because you are using long words to make yourself seem more intelligent and are telling others how they are stupid.

3. We don't know how PvP balance will be in MoP. Things will change, buffs and nerfs will happen through the expansion and different classes will shine at different points. PvP will never be fully balanced (because of gear, why do you think in tournaments they all wear the same unmodified gear? and also addons). Saying 1 class has an advantage over another is silly and will always be the case because otherwise we would all be the same damn class.
Try to be a better player and even a bad class can win fights.
Tawtute
Thunderhorn
Tawtute
90 Tauren Druid
4990
has this spell been tested in end game pvp? no because end game pvp does not exist in MOP beta yet
Baraccus
Arathor
Baraccus
85 Tauren Druid
8925
It's because of PVP whiners like the OP that Druids lots their CLASS DEFINING ABILITY to shift out of snares.

It's because of PVP whiners that we lost the immunity to snares for 1 sec after shifting. (Me + Resto Druid + Holy Priest in WSG = Unstoppable Flag cap team in vanilla.... Happy days)

Stop whining about something that hasn't happened yet.

The worst thing that ever happened to WoW was the Arena. Every class has the same abilities more or less.

I think it's a good talent, it can mix things up a bit.
Cheshirecat
Mazrigos
Cheshirecat
90 Blood Elf Hunter
8350
1. They have nerfed symbiosis.

2. You have lots of grammar mistakes which is adorable because you are using long words to make yourself seem more intelligent and are telling others how they are stupid.

3. We don't know how PvP balance will be in MoP. Things will change, buffs and nerfs will happen through the expansion and different classes will shine at different points. PvP will never be fully balanced (because of gear, why do you think in tournaments they all wear the same unmodified gear? and also addons). Saying 1 class has an advantage over another is silly and will always be the case because otherwise we would all be the same damn class.
Try to be a better player and even a bad class can win fights.


mmm pick at his grammar mistakes, that makes you the better man right?

It's beta and guess what, now is the time to pick at balance issues because when they go live they sure as hell don't change much (looking at my own class or example that has been buggy and clunky since the last beta and through cataclysm).

And yes, pvp will never be fully balanced obviously, and with spells like these, the job of balancing will be even harder.
Itsthatdude
Mazrigos
Itsthatdude
90 Tauren Druid
7235
i can only say one thing

*COUGH* AOE CLOAK *COUGH*

oof, that was a bad one, i think i might be coming down with something
Kjlkaöd
The Maelstrom
Kjlkaöd
1 Gnome Rogue
0
Alright, since this thread have now derailed i will (as the nice guy i am) take the time to educate you cretins.

18/04/2012 06:55Posted by Lefrena
1. They have nerfed symbiosis.

There a "nerfs and there are nerfs.. dont use that as a argument

2. You have lots of grammar mistakes which is adorable because you are using long words to make yourself seem more intelligent and are telling others how they are stupid.
I use ordinary words ? Please be specific at what you refering to.

Now grammar is based on "knowledge". Knowledge and intellect arent the same thing by far, a knowledgeable person isnt by default intelligent. Intellect is based on logic, while knowledge is based on facts. This is something most ppl dont know/understand and, just like you, do incorrect statements. English isnt my native language so its quite obvious i might lack on the grammar department, and since i can make myself understood i dont se a huge need in improving it as for now.

3. We don't know how PvP balance will be in MoP. Things will change, buffs and nerfs will happen through the expansion and different classes will shine at different points. PvP will never be fully balanced
This is very true. But if you as a class have all your abilites to be a viable class and then get even more abilites then you are more then viable, as in OP. Like a example i did earlier.. If a paladin use all his Cd's for that extreme burst, and then we throw in a recklessness aswell.. would that be fine ?

18/04/2012 13:01Posted by Baraccus
It's because of PVP whiners like the OP that Druids lots their CLASS DEFINING ABILITY to shift out of snares.
No, it was becouse druid was immune to polymorphs, hex, slows, roots, fears (on demand). And since you got extremly good dmg in return you are more viable now then you where then anyway.
Baraccus
Arathor
Baraccus
85 Tauren Druid
8925
Not immune to slows/roots/snares, (and fears was Berserk, which is unrelated, and we only had that for about 10 mins...), and it cost a GCD to free ourselves, and we had to shift to caster before we could shift back into whatever form we were in, so 2 GCDs in fact

Were you even playing in Vanilla?

Never mind some of us had been playing Druids for nearly 5 years, and had to readjust our play style to accommodate the tears of Mages who couldn't get their free kills.

Just to remind you, PVP IS NOT BALANCED AROUND 1v1.

In vanilla, a Feral Druid could not kill a Warlock, unless the Lock was AFK or massively under geared and a tard. It was simply a fact of life. however we could tear through Warriors/Mages/Rogues(if we go the drop on them).

Rock > Paper > Scissors.

You need to learn about stuff before trying to form an opinion on it, then you won't look so stupid posting incorrect information.

If you think Symbiosis is so OP and it makes it to live, roll a Druid or partner with one. Problem solved. Just stop crying about it.
Throrr
Burning Blade
Throrr
90 Worgen Druid
13140
You dont really seems to get it.

All classes are balanced around what abilites they have and how strong they are together.. For example retri paladins, have very high dmg during wings... what if you where to throw in a recklessness in there aswell ? Thats when sh*t starting to get out of hand. Now i used pala as a example, but the statements is just as true for a druid.


This is not an argument. This is an assumption. Made by a person that knows less about the game than the Blizzard developers. If you want to turn your assumption into an argument, prove that the dps/healing of Druids has somehow gotten out of hand because of Symbiosis. Until then, you are just another guy who is so full of himself he thinks he can predict game balance issues without any evidence.
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