Topic Make PvP trinket attractive
Maulfurion
Frostmane
Maulfurion
90 Night Elf Druid
6405
Currently being human is an advantage over other races. (This has been discussed countless times so I'm not going into every detail)

Using PvP trinket you lose about 500+ of your primary stat and some awesome proc/on-use effect that comes with it...

This is most hurtful at end of last season when not wearing PvP trinket isn't a huge resilience loss. 3% damage reduction isn't nothing compared to those extra stats/procs from PvE trinkets...

Now in the next expansion Blizzard needs to either give PvP trinket a passive stat bonus or remove Every Man For Himself racial ability or give it to every race. Else playing human and getting high rated will stay easier compared to other races...

Why should a race choice have such an impact on your damage/healing output in PvP? Just look at arena rating charts, every human there has some OP trinket in their other slot next to their on-use trinket, how is that not overpowered?

Similar situation is with stealth vs stealth class, first who gets the opener has an upper hand, but can still lose due to some bad luck.
Rasen
Stormscale
Rasen
90 Goblin Warrior
10355
Just wish they'd allow you to choose whatever racial you want regardless of what race you actually are.

It's pretty dumb forcing people to go a race they don't want too because it's better.
Shadowtwist
Outland
Shadowtwist
85 Human Mage
4790
Just wish they'd allow you to choose whatever racial you want regardless of what race you actually are.

It's pretty dumb forcing people to go a race they don't want too because it's better.


That's a pretty good idea
Hordea
Genjuros
Hordea
55 Worgen Death Knight
90
Incorrect resilience dont have Dr
Mokobishu
Outland
Mokobishu
85 Troll Druid
5905
Every race should have every man for himself as a standard racial.
Tweewieler
Silvermoon
Tweewieler
90 Draenei Shaman
12810
22/04/2012 21:43Posted by Mokobishu
Every race should have every man for himself as a standard racial.


Disagree, :*(
Virent
Darkmoon Faire
Virent
85 Undead Priest
6150
Just wish they'd allow you to choose whatever racial you want regardless of what race you actually are.

It's pretty dumb forcing people to go a race they don't want too because it's better.


This.

Me and my partners have considered faction changing so many times even just because of how much of a huge benefit human racial is. It's retarded.
Caliber
Dentarg
Caliber
90 Draenei Priest
13090
I think just replace all racials with non game breaking stuff like mobile banking.

Personally I get more annoyed with WoTF than any other racial, it's completely silly that one race has a (almost) free escape from my primary cc which already has so many weaknesses. I can never win the fear game against undead priests. :(
Burden
Outland
Burden
90 Undead Mage
8755
Ive written posts on this subject countless times.

Simple fact is that when a human opens on you in arena and use cooldowns, he will always do more damage than you. He has an extra passive trinket running on him, while you dont.
Rasen
Stormscale
Rasen
90 Goblin Warrior
10355
The reason is Blizzard are too stupid to understand that people are actually changing races in order to get an advantage.

I guarantee you 110% that Blizzard do not realise how game breaking some racials are.
Cørinn
Kazzak
Cørinn
85 Undead Warlock
3510
Correct me if i'm wrong

But blizzard have always had a massive interest in money > customer
22/04/2012 22:36Posted by Rasen
people are actually changing races in order to get an advantage.
= dolla
Oxxy
Lightbringer
Oxxy
90 Human Hunter
17005
Just wish they'd allow you to choose whatever racial you want regardless of what race you actually are.

It's pretty dumb forcing people to go a race they don't want too because it's better.


This.

Me and my partners have considered faction changing so many times even just because of how much of a huge benefit human racial is. It's retarded.

Undead racial is like the best thing you can ask for most of the time. For example undead rmp>human rmp etc etc dont see why you would wanna change when you get such a huge advantage vs pri's :S
Rasen
Stormscale
Rasen
90 Goblin Warrior
10355
Correct me if i'm wrong

But blizzard have always had a massive interest in money > customer
people are actually changing races in order to get an advantage.
= dolla


Actually you're completely wrong, having a dominate 1 race is far less likely to create profit than having a bunch of balanced ones.
Neeria
Ragnaros
Neeria
85 Undead Mage
11040
Edited by Neeria on 22/04/12 22:53 (BST)
22/04/2012 22:36Posted by Rasen
The reason is Blizzard are too stupid to understand that people are actually changing races in order to get an advantage.


actually, I think they do realise. And knowing Bli$$ard, they won't do anything about it. Infact, I wouldn't be surprised if they another racial ridiculously overpowered when MoP hits, so everyone has to race change again

22/04/2012 22:50Posted by Rasen
Actually you're completely wrong, having a dominate 1 race is far less likely to create profit than having a bunch of balanced ones.

I think that's where we disagree then
Ajad
Aszune
Ajad
55 Goblin Death Knight
90
If you were blizzard and the world was in economic crisis, wtf would u do ur self? You need to earn every single dollar you possible can
Rasen
Stormscale
Rasen
90 Goblin Warrior
10355
Okay, I see where you're coming from and I value your opinion, but you're wrong.

Human is overpowered racial.

You pay once to go Human, you don't change.

Every racial is balanced, you choose what race you want to go, you get bored, maybe you change again for animations/fun.

Even if you don't change that often it's still a bigger profit margin.

Thank you thank you, I know I'm a genius, I'll take your praise now.
Ajad
Aszune
Ajad
55 Goblin Death Knight
90
Ye human racial is OP, and blizzard did nerf it start of cata, by making cd 3min .. they quickly reverted that though.
Rasen
Stormscale
Rasen
90 Goblin Warrior
10355
22/04/2012 23:00Posted by Ajad
Ye human racial is OP, and blizzard did nerf it start of cata, by making cd 3min .. they quickly reverted that though.


Because it was the dumbest nerf imaginable.
Xhype
Silvermoon
Xhype
85 Human Mage
4045
22/04/2012 22:58Posted by Ajad
If you were blizzard and the world was in economic crisis, wtf would u do ur self? You need to earn every single dollar you possible can

Dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Shadowtwist
Outland
Shadowtwist
85 Human Mage
4790
22/04/2012 22:58Posted by Ajad
If you were blizzard and the world was in economic crisis, wtf would u do ur self? You need to earn every single dollar you possible can


Think of long term fixes rather than short term fixes

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