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Forced to leave guild due to arrogant members.
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And the sad truth is that people have anonymity online and thus a lot of people act like douchebags. There's little we can do online to stop this and if you are -so- thin-skinned and sensitive that one troll saying a five word post spurs you on to make a massive arguement like that, then perhaps you should limit how often you spend on the internet, as you'll unfortunatly always find people like that. |
#81
22/04/2012
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I'm not limiting myself to friends I initially knew online there. I'm talking about all my friends; whether I met them online, on Warcraft, or in real life.
Yes anonymity prompts some people to behave more like jerks than they might do otherwise. That doesn't mean I for one, will sit by and let anyone suffer just because some person behind a monitor gets a cyber-giggle out of someone elses misery. I've proved this more than enough times on WoW - I will never be a simple bystander if there is something I can do. Why should they get away with being offensive just because they picked someone who may not be capable of defending themselves? But now we're getting off topic. My point was that people are varied, some may have disabilities and require little to no support, others may require much more from their friends. And I do not think your perspective is ideal. The people in the world who do not suffer from any kind of disability, or suffer minimally are lucky. And at the very least, if not helping or supporting those who do suffer, they certain shouldn't hinder them, or make their problems worse. People who are encountered with a situation they can not deal with alone, or were so uncomfortable with they felt they had to ask for a degree of respect, are not asking for anything grand or unobtainable. They're asking to be treated like a human. |
#83
23/04/2012
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Yeah, I do think this is often the main thing to really keep in mind. It makes no difference to you to change up something but can mean a heck of a lot for the one who has asked it to be changed for them. I understand though that people of the same situation can have very different opinions and approaches to it, as has been shown in this very thread itself, and I feel uncomfortable saying that either side is 100% wrong when it's a situation they both face equally. I guess when you're part of the same community it's really in everyone's best interests to make sure there is compromise occurring and no one is being made to feel uncomfortable or disregarded, especially when it's such an easy fix to allow everyone to feel they fit in and are respected and welcome. It's really tough to balance this at times but really the key things are to respect when you're told you've maybe upset someone, consider it and apologise/correct yourself, move on. |
#84
23/04/2012
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No offense, but I find most people with asperger/autism to be annoying and being offended for nothing. I get angry aswell sometimes when people blame me for things and try to make fun of me, but !@#$ them. It's just nerds on a video game trying to act cool, live your own life instead and don't let people put you down.
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#85
23/04/2012
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Pardon can you rephrase that and mind kindly not tarring all people who are on the Asperger's and autism spectrum with the same brush and more to the point did you actually read my original post or not? |
#86
23/04/2012
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Edited by Hrishna on 23/04/12 00:29 (BST)
No offense, but I find most people with asperger/autism to be annoying and being offended for nothing. I get angry aswell sometimes when people blame me for things and try to make fun of me, but !@#$ them. It's just nerds on a video game trying to act cool, live your own life instead and don't let people put you down. Xhype says "no offense", then proceeds to say something really !@#$ing offensive. You must have a busy life when people obviously need to go to you to check if something should offend them or not. Also, are you autistic? If no, then take a %^-*ing seat, because you have no idea what you are talking about. |
#87
23/04/2012
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Don't take it to heart, it appears to be a troll from another realm. Put him on forum ignore, I did too. |
#88
23/04/2012
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That was just phrased in the most inappropriete way Xhype. But since you're from another realm, I'll just take comfort in the fact there's zero chance of me running into your ignorant !@#$ on this server.
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#89
23/04/2012
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I'm sorry, but you're not allowed to give an inspirational last remark after giving such a crass first one. I hope you have a dentist appointment tomorrow. And I hope the dentist in question has just split up with his wife. |
#91
23/04/2012
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live and let live i say if its Gay.Black, horde or gnome every house has its own cross
If you enjoy RP go ahead and enjoy it the Wow community has degraded to flaming QQ ragequit etc if you dont fullfill to their requirements.. i dont say i never raged against anothe player i probably have. however i try to see the positive in everything wiping is good as long as there is progresssion etc im trying to say is play as you like it, evrybody else does. they RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ if you miss a button etc so * them and enjoy the game that's what we pay for |
#92
23/04/2012
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Really angry and saddened at the same time to read your post Arc - I'm so sorry you had to put up with that :( But from the sounds of if you did the right thing and have found a better home now.
I rarely post on the forums but I wanted to say that, because I know a little of what it's like, more similar to what Penanna said. I don't have autisum or aspergers, but I do have some issues with my mental health. I don't really class it as disability myself, but it does affect many aspects of my life including WoW. I have been very lucky for the most part - the people I tend to surround myself ingame are understanding and supportive. They don't give me 'special treatment', nor do I expect it - they just appreciate that sometimes I can express myself in the wrong way, or view others' expressions wrongly. I have also had my fair share of troubles though - arguments and name calling and all that. BUT that being said I have also found that WoW has in some senses helped me to get better. I now can control my feelings a lot better than I used to, and I tend not to read into things too much anymore. It helped me to also accept that while I have a mental condition, that did not make me blameless in some of the altercations I had with other people (I am speaking purely about my own circumstances here) and I had to learn to better myself as well. Lastly, the comment about just logging off - I see and understand what you are getting at and your points are very valid in some cases - however for me personally (and probably for others like me) just because I was away from the screen didn't mean that what happened went away. In fact, I used to torture myself over ingame incidents for sometimes days afterwards. TL;DR - Great post and debate, and I'm glad you're movin' on up OP :) /bear hugs |
#93
23/04/2012
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So what you're saying is that because people can be bastards online, you can ignore any responsibilty you have as a human being to have empathy towards others, and just tell other people to GTFO if they don't like the way they're being treated? Right. Right. |
#94
23/04/2012
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That's hilarious I assume without the anaesthetic? |
#95
23/04/2012
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Ha, yes! Or, actually, if there absolutely MUST be anaesthetic, I fully recommend the sort used in this documentary clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEkT5uspE3c |
#96
23/04/2012
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And the large majority of this thread reiterates why I don't like text-based communications all that much to discuss serious topics.
I think that a lot of people leaping into the fray here are getting their wires crossed, either writing things in a way that leaves room to be misinterpreted by people who are sensitive to the topic at hand, or completely failing to see the point of the persons offended. People are different, and getting offended by random people you have just bumped into on the internet is completely different to trying to integrate yourself with a group of people on said internet. In the former you can approach them and they will have no prior knowledge of any kind that you have a disability that may affect the way you interact with people, but the latter if given some kind of notice or a polite request cannot justify behaving as nothing more than spiteful and insulting and demeaning of that person. It's not OK, and it's not OK to be backed into a corner where you have to deal with it by being forced to remove yourself. Ever. Period. Zixxle, I can see your point but you're putting it across in a very misguided way, it's not always as black and white as that, and people shouldn't be forced to accept that someone's going to be an outright !@#$ to them because they can't interact with the world on a level that is acceptable to the other party. It might have worked for you but you can't project your experience, or even the given experiences of others onto everyone. |
#98
23/04/2012
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Well done Sha'tar, this made it to the front page...
If only for the right reasons. |
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23/04/2012
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