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Losing Every Single BG Because we have NO healer
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Can you just balance the number of healers in each BG? After you balance the game around 2 dps needed to kill one healer, at least have the decency to limit the number of healers in each team?! I am not talking about the opposite having 1/ 2 healers while my team has none. I am talking about the enemies have 4/5 healers each other in each freaking bg while my team have ZERO. If this game is so balanced, please tell me how I am gonna defeat a fc healed by 3 healers at least while my fc is being healed by 5 dps without healing.
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i rather have longer que whit a more fair and fun play then being raped where u spawn because yes thats what the oposing faction whit more healers do |
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There is another canned answer : play a healer yourself
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Healer's role is also too big in a BG. I dont remember how it was a few years ago, but I cant remember immortal healers being something that bugged me while doing random battlegrounds. At this point, 2 DPSers arent always enough. I played healer last season because of this reason - having fear, instant heals, shield that made me immune to slow etc.. Its sick. But since the Arena matches took forever (a few ended after 45 mins), I rerolled retri pally. Healers have made PvP so boring.. Im giving up early in my mind if its a flag BG and their FC have 2 or sometimes more healers with him. That takes almost all our team to defeat. Nerf healers PLX to a level were at least a DPS can have a chance while using all his burst. This will save is so damn much time in arena too.
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Indeed. Also - WHY has this thread been bumped when there are other threads with the same subject on the front page? Good grief, now I know how the pro-premaders feel when they see yet another anti-premade thread on the front page!! ^^ |
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thats because nothings been done about it. The healers and DPS's contributions differ, on BG's such as WSG where you defend a flag carrier healers need to be balanced. |
what a great option, its fun playing a healer where the dps dont support you and then swear at you for them dying when your being tunneled by 3+ melee's |
Indeed. 2 Days arent that much... Besides, you "every-day-forum-posters" should make up your mind if you want us to search the forum for similar threads or make a new. |
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Edited by Cervin on 29/04/12 18:37 (BST)
what´s more annoying is when your like secs away, in a very close wsg game, to cap that stupid fking flag but it bugs out and then a lame alliance comming and steal our flag while im standing there. I then manage to kill that fc and were about to turn it in a second time but nooo..it bugs out again and ofc another allie comes and steal the flag and then time runs out and we lost .../sigh
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Once again - healers are unkillable for single dps because single dps is unkillable for healer too. Healer willingly gives up most of his offensive power for more healing power. I'm not happy with such trade as well, BUT if we're killable by single DDer, why the hell would I want to play healer ? I mean, really ? |
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Indeed. I am hardly an "every-day-forum-poster", but even if I was, why would I make a new thread when I see a similar thread already at the top of the page? :-)
Because DPS see healers as "support roles". They are the heros, we are there simply to heal their behinds. ^^ However, like you say - if healers have almost no damage to dish out, yet are unable to resist a single dps when focussed, I wonder how happy the people complaining would be that their healers are rubbish cos they can't survive one dps on them to heal their own backsides, let alone the backside of the ones who complain... |
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Edited by Nèmo on 29/04/12 19:29 (BST)
Yeah, that might have been true in vanilla right now healers are regarded as god's herals and they are subjected to a different set of rules, or that's what they think. And honestly I'd take a no healer BG any day over the crappy healer fests that either unbalance teams or make games a healing orgy. |
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What different set of rules do healers think we are entitled to Nemo? We have pretty much zero damage. If we fall at one dps, what use would a healer be? We would not be able to keep ourselves alive, let alone, say, for example, you? ^^
I ask again though - for those of us who love healing, geared for healing and gemmed and enchanted for healing - why should we have to spec to dps, or be subjected to massive queue times, just because people don't know how to take a healer down? |
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I'm not getting into a debate. This is a really old issue that repeats over and over, poeple complain healers respond : L2P issue.
And I honestly don't care about your healer and how much you love it, all I know, loving your healer is a really popular thing these days, seeing how healers are filling bgs and that creates a problem. As long as Blizz refuses to place a matchmaking system in random bgs this problem will keep growing and growing until people will stop hoping for a fix and just leave, like it happen in Rift and SWTOR. At least SWTOR got desperate enough to do something about it, let's see how long it takes for blizzard to come to the shocking conclusion that too many healers in a BG ruin it and in many ways. |
Not as popular as rogue-loving though |
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@Nemo
Well, to be honest, if you post on a public forum, then you kind of automatically put yourself up for debate. You can't make a statement like you made and then not be asked to explain it. Also, it's not me who is constantly posting these repeatative threads, quite the opposite, I am sick to the back teeth of them, as you can probably tell. And I am also quite aware that you don't give a rat's about my healer, why would you? That is not what I am saying in my post. I am asking why should someone give up a char that they have put a lot of time, practice, care and considerable in-game expense to enchant and gem etc for a spec to then be some in-game paraiah just because a few people don't like it cos they can't beat it for whatever reason? I don't like rogues for example - do you see me whining on a daily basis about nerfing or how we should only allow a limited amount of rogues in a bg? Nope. i don't expect rogues to be restricted just cos myself and others don't like them! Why should you think that is ok? |
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Hey all I'm saying is that there is a need of balance even in randoms. And TBH I don't see the problem, if you think you are a decent healer you should be fine just with a couple of more healers to help you, unless you depend on a 5+ heal spamming.
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I personally don't see limit on healers as a problem. I'm against healer's nerf.
After all, every healer has dd spec, but not every dd has a healer spec, so we won't suffer from prolonged queues anyway |
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@ Nemo
I am certainly no pro, I make no bones about it ^^ You can easily see from my info that I am a reasonably casual player. I haven't even bothered to cap for the last couple of months! I rarely check how many healers we have in random bgs, why bother - you either have them or not :-) And I would never, ever start complaining about the amount of healers before the gates even open and deem it an automatic loss. I also never go into a random expecting heals or to be propped up by dps who rarely know how to protect their healer. Thank goodness I DO have some survivability cos most dps don't seem to realise they need to protect the healer on their own team. I understand why people find it annoying. I understand also the need for balance. But let's face it, PvP is not balanced, and never will be as long as you have randoms, hence the name. Randoms will always have huge differences in skilled players and those learning the ropes (or who are just plain bad), gear, specs, and don't even get me started on bots! I also have no probs if they do restrict a healer limit, as I have never depended on heals from another. However, although the queues are long enough Horde side at times, it wouldn't be the end of the world for me (personally) to wait another few minutes, but what I do have a problem with is nerfing healers. If we have almost no damage and cannot survive 1v1 then there is no point in having them at all. I am just sick to death of "healers think they are gods" and "OMG they have healers its a loss, just afk guys" attitudes. We don't think we are gods; please, roll one and see for yourselves. Most healers don't go there to brag about "killz" and dps scores, we go there to heal, cos we enjoy that aspect of the game, that's all. |
