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abominations might
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im seeing almost every blood dk tank with this talent atm... isnt it a bit of a waste in pve dungeons? and i dont mean to start an arguement it just seems like a wasted talent as a hunter with true shot, pally or shammy with unleashed rage would do the same thing. or am i being daft?
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In what pve dungeons?
5 man? Abolutely not.. mm hunters and enha shamans are rare occurences, and unless you get a pala/druid combo you can have the pala do kings. Raids? Probably, the chance of not having the buff covered even in 10 man is small. It is still preferable to have the dk spec it than a hunter though because survival is currently the best hunter spec I think. |
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most 5 mans from cata normals to cata normal hcs to HoT hcs. it doesnt help my point or yours when i say when i asked a couple they said it was for their dps... nothing more... :S seriously my faith in humanity is wavering...
im normally healing on my druid so ive usually got mark and ive seen a load of hunters with the aura and a dose of pallys too... maybe its just my battlegroup or something |
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Edited by Kundor on 27/04/12 03:49 (BST)
Because some people take one of the best party/raid buffs in their spec? Not that much of a reach in 5s/10s. Some guilds, like mine, dont raid with an Enh Shaman or a MMS Hunter (Very few Hunters play Marks - Surv is better and doesn't have the AP buff). We also have no Druids and 2 Paladins, but on the occasions we only have one of them we're missing 20% AP, which is a big loss. And in 5s unless you play a Kings/Wild buffer it's really not that common that you'll have both. |
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In 5-mans it is not like it makes or breaks your group. In raids, well, it should be based upon your raid comp - nothing else. Arguing to take it purely for the added personal dps from the extra strength is just silly, dks already have high dps for tanks and threat is not an issue.
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5mans are so faceroll now why not spec to maximise your dps?
For a lot of tanks, 5mans are the only things they tank so speccing for maximum survivability is pretty pointless. |
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The HoT heroics were always a faceroll. No, but seriously blizzard, there are fights in those heroics where I take less damage than my total health pool.
To make really sure your healer falls asleep? |
ha indeed. They are very depressing dungeons. They look pretty, sure, and it's nice to /flirt with illidan but compared with the ICC 5mans that came out its very sad. Tanking HoR in particular and to a lesser extent certain pulls in Forge of Souls and Pit of Saron actually offered quite a decent challenge. (Before we were all ICC geared anyway). It's quite depressing really that the current 5man content that gives the best gear is the easiest content at 85 BY FAR. Sigh, and to think how challenging the 5man content was in the first couple of weeks of cata....seems a dim and distant memory now. |
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It's about utility.
In 10 man raiding you're not always guaranteed the buff, so if your raid mainly 10 man it's more beneficial to the raid group as a whole to spec it. I have it specced on my Blood DK for this very reason. |
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Edited by Zødíac on 27/04/12 14:06 (BST)
Hello,i am using AM mainly for my 2% strength. It gives me more Parry chance against Morchok and his brother Ozruk. I think it is crucial in those two encounters and i finally feel that i can have fair fight with Ozruk.
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Thing is, you need a paladin, MM hunter or Enhancement shaman for the 20% attack power. Both Enhancement shamans and MM hunters popularity are currently pretty low, and if you get a paladin, he can buff everyone with Kings, meaning you'd get 20% atk power -and- 5% stats, compared to only 20% atk power. The chance for paladins are fairly decent, however, you rarely get two in one heroic, same with a druid and paladin in the same group. But if you queue as druid, you'll obviously only need to meet a paladin to get maximum potential in buffs, since you already bring MotW. However, blood DK's are not druids, and can't rely on their luck to get a druid and a paladin in every single heroic they do. |
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Edited by Nattälva on 27/04/12 17:58 (BST)
If you are doing 10-mans regularly with your guild, then you know whether or not it is provided by another member of your raid and can spec accordingly. Edit: Oh, and I also know a friend of mine was kicked from an Outland dungeon since "You are a blood dk, you should have Abomination's Might". Now *that* is ridiculous. |
that is ridiculous... too much weight is placed on dk tank due to this talent. my honest opinion is they dont need it. but again thats my personal view. (please note im not saying it should be removed from the game) |
That shows how elitism can fail on higher grounds. 1st abo-might IS OPTIONAL and has not been seen as mandatory tanking talent. Heck less tanks have it contrary to not having it. |
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im fairly sure most decent blood DK's will agree, we meet alot of people who copy our talent specs, i have met alot of people who have copied mines. (even when its in a poor state or specced for a specific fight lols) so it might juts be a case of them copying a cookie cutter spec.
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Sup. (I take it to ensure the raid gets the attack bonus buff, the extra strength helps on HC ultraxion and of course, the tiny parry bonus is nice) |
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i always end up with 2 points left so why not take abominations might
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