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Sort out healing plz
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Edited by Wesleyswipes on 26/04/12 23:36 (BST)
4 full cata geared healers in WSG against 1 healer and 3-4 green geared dpsers is not cool.
And dont you dare start with random is random. It would be random if SOME of these games were like this... not ALL OF THEM!!! Healing is damn OP in normal BGs. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!! 10 x stacks makes no difference at all. Healing has become too OP. Doesnt matter if there are 20 DPS trying to kill 4 healers. They will not succed!!!HEY BLIZZARD.... here is an idea for new raid boss : Make an event boss that the goal is to kill 4 holy paladins controlled by players (ressilience included) Lets see if your !@#$@!#$% precious PvE aspect of this game can handle it. Maybe THEN you decide to do something about it. Oh, and put this boss in LFR, not organized raids. No, no... sorry ... put this boss in both LFR AND organized raids. Compare the stats .... see for yourself whats the difference between RBGs and normal BGs. Seriously, you cant be so damn stupid that you think healing is perfectly balanced just because its ok in arenas and RBG. HEY BLIZZARD.... i got news for you.... 99% OF THE WOW COMMUNITY PLAYS RANDOM BATTLEGROUNDS!!!!!!! |
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Agree
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abit skeptic and much caps but totaly true
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Healing in arena could be ok because there is usually only 1 healer in a team. In battlegrounds if you have 3 decent healers healing eachothers, its the end of the story. You will never kill those, its simply impossible at that point even with full team.
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Now lets hear bs like "the more healers the less dps" yeah i would totally trade two dpses for becoming immortal.
Once in Bfg there were 4 healers. Me and my mates tried to chain cc the all buy it didnt work. As they get out of the cc they instant heal all targets back to 100%. Especially holy paladins, nerf them already. |
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Sooo ... what do you really want them to do ? Healing debuff just for random bgs ? Healer specs banned from random bgs ? Healers not allowed to be skilled and wear pvp-items ..?
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First i played my moonkin and thought i sucked, then i leveled a holy paladin and my skill level went over 9000. So, theres no skills, really. Maybe limit healers per BG or make it so that the healers and dpsers are the same amount. Or maybe add a debuff the more healers there are. Or, make them run out of mana. One of those. Removing the mana regenation on casting heals would do good. |
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OK.
First: 4 full cata geared healers in WSG against 1 healer and 3-4 green geared dpsers is not cool. Random is random. Object all you want, but it is TRUE. Your suggestion that yours queuing as a random *always* gets you 1 healer and 3-4 green-geared DPS and the other team 4 cata-geared healers is a lie. I repeat, it is A LIE. We aren't stupid, don't insult our intelligence. You are in exactly the same situation as the opposing side. Second:
"The more healers the less DPS" is exactly right. If your team has 1 healer and 9 DPS, the other team has 5 healers and 5 DPS, and everyone have roughly equal gear and skill, you should be PWNING them like no tomorrow. Too many healers and too little DPS is a very real problem. Roll a healer and see for yourself. |
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4 full cata geared healers in WSG against 1 healer and 3-4 green geared dpsers is not cool. So you lost becease the enemy team had a average of 100 ilvl's more? No surprise, really. |
Healers limit will increase waiting time. Debuffs on very strong abilities already exist - like priest's shield or paladin's bubble, LoH, Phys immunity Healers DO run out of mana - if enemies do enough pressure. Most of the times enemy dps is so terribad though that I can keep my boyz up with just instants. Also manaburn |
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Thats a lie.
Stupidity is underpowered.
Yes it does, 5 dps can burst down the FC with no problems with that many stacks(maybe use some cc on the healers, but the fc should go down within 10 sec)
If they fail at the game, then yes, they won't succeed. But any decent dps could do that. Healing is not OP. Stupidity is underpowered.
The PvE players with a brain will have no problem with this. You also picked the 3th best healer.. but whatever.
Its also okay in Random BG's. Do you know what the difference is between Rbg's and randoms? Random bg's has a bunch of noobs.
don't spread misinformation, you have no source for this. |
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Edited by Gilrak on 27/04/12 08:11 (BST)
Its not true.
If that team fails, yes. Now lets hear bs like "the more healers the less dps" yeah i would totally trade two dpses for becoming immortal. I don't think you know what "Immortal" means.
So it was how many of you again? You forgot to mention a important aspect.
They are the weakest healers after resto druids(still far above them, very far). And you want to nerf them? Do you want Hpala's to suffer the same faith as those poor resto druids?
So you played the spec which has the worst survivability in the game and then you played one the specs with the most survivability? How did you compare them? by charging in a group of players alone? Well genius, in that case its obvious which class would survive longer, no amount of skill is going to make up for the lack of defensive cd's on a moonkin. That aside, if you really think healing takes no skill, you really don't know anything about this game.If anybody uses the good ol' "I bet Ur mean is healer!!" Then I would like to inform those people that I don't have a main and that only 21k-22k of my 56k HK's are from my healer chars. |
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healers make good training dummies
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Edited by Sírlewis on 27/04/12 10:46 (BST)
Well for one the ammount of times i've had players hitting on me not interrupting my heals is unreal, but as people have said, your going to get those players in battlegrounds.
I would take your post more seriously but when your spout nonsense such as 20 players cant beat 4 healers then you lose all credibility. Maybe you dont notice while your in battlegrounds but many classes rip through healers. Against palas, rogues, death knights and hunters i feel as if my 4.8k resil is not even doing anything, and no thats not all of them on me at the same time. You damn sure notice when a single DK is stuck on you, key word there is STUCK ON ME, because you know, its a random battleground, just like you have players who dont intterupt, you get players who dont peel. Also just because you have less healers or none at all does not mean you can not win. I've lost count of the ammount of times since the weekend that i've lost because we've had 3-4 healers and the other team have none at all. Dont underestimate the added pressure your dps can put out. I had a twin peaks where we had 6 healers and the allys had none. At first I thought it might be a decent round, but no one went for the EFC even with multiple debuff stacks. most of the healers were undergeared or pve geared and were mid farming the whole game and we lost 3-0. Random! |
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Its quite true that dpsers sucks most of the time, thats why we want limited healers, sadly.
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Edited by Rederoin on 27/04/12 11:30 (BST)
Against palas, rogues, death knights and hunters i feel as if my 4.8k resil is not even doing anything, and no thats not all of them on me at the same time. You damn sure notice when a single DK is stuck on you, key word there is STUCK ON ME, because you know, its a random battleground, just like you have players who dont intterupt, you get players who dont peel. thats odd, when I fight a healer, I feel stronger against them with my warrior than I do with my hunter(expect for Rdruids, becease the superior burst of BM is better against them). Hunters don't really have a interupt, so I don't really see them as a huge threat(unless a mellee is on me), since I don't have to worry about fake casting, or knowing when and when not I can cast FoL. That aside, a good rogue can shut me down(i'm forced to focus healing on myself) 1 of the reasons I play Hpala is becease I can survive longer without peels, something you should not expect in randoms. |
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Often 3-4 dps just tunneling my dk/boomkin friend while im just standing and healing 20yard away.
So strange, how i can surive that? :O |
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Edited by Gilrak on 27/04/12 12:27 (BST)
Often 3-4 dps just tunneling my dk/boomkin friend while im just standing and healing 20yard away. Some dps just make no sense. When I was playing my warrior(2,2k resi at the time), I was under attack by half the enemy, while being spamhealed by 2 healers. None of these dps had the genius idea of going after the healer. Long story short, I went 13-2 while taking over 2,2Million damage, on a 2,2k resi warrior with no pvp trinket and a 378 weapon. |
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Edited by Kerseny on 27/04/12 12:31 (BST)
no if they suck they shall find another game. healers are powerful but can backfire a lot times . countless times teams full of dps win bgs against teams with healers. how many times you target a healer and your team is targeting the blood dk because he is the first thing they see near them? |
