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27/04/2012 20:57Posted by Maixy

It doesn't even compare with wow and there is no reason to talk about it other than its humiliating 11 year old player base.

So true, i was playing RuneScape 2-2,5 years ago and gosh... worst playerbase ever. Awful gameplay and pretty much everything you do is PvPing by sitting and clicking different weapons and grinding. Worst game ever

although is quitted runescape over 5 years ago its a great game only thing it lacks is a mail support (cause forums is member only and only other way is calling)

but you can't call this ripoff it seems these are just floating platforms with differend elements to each attached probably some sort of quest line about emotions or something

27/04/2012 23:14Posted by Thaerk

Runescape's quests are probably infinity times better, more varied and more enjoyable than WoW's. The character customisation is better too. Which is sad.

^

If you like grinding, don't mind not-so-good graphics (althought I personally love Runescape's style) and are able to ignore the horrible community full of kids, Runescape is an amazing game with far more content and playability than WoW.

Not to mention the developers listen to the players every once in a while.

Games copy each other all the time it's no big deal.

For example: The new battleground in the vale of eternal blossoms coming in MoP is an exact copy of Black garden in rift, with a wow touch on it.

And dude it's just runescape....

The worst part in wow is that after you have done 15 quest you never read the quest log again.

29/04/2012 10:08Posted by Ayun

they have 1-2 million active subscribers, the rest is millions of free accounts.

"The game has approximately 10 million active accounts per month, over 156 accounts"
Wikipedia.

29/04/2012 20:55Posted by Elviryn

Runescape's quests are probably infinity times better, more varied and more enjoyable than WoW's. The character customisation is better too. Which is sad.

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If you like grinding, don't mind not-so-good graphics (althought I personally love Runescape's style) and are able to ignore the horrible community full of kids, Runescape is an amazing game with far more content and playability than WoW.

Not to mention the developers listen to the players every once in a while.

WoW has horrible community.

Correction: 350,000,000 +
(That was last year's figure)

350million subs? That's not bad compared to WoW with only 10 million.

Correction: 350,000,000 +
(That was last year's figure)

350million subs? That's not bad compared to WoW with only 10 million.

As stupid as this may sound.

World of Warcraft has 10million+ Subscribers - Still has more "Subscribers" for people actively paying for the game.

Since RuneScape has a *FREE* version of the game. The free version of the game is funded primarily by website adverts. Thus, only getting the occasional content update (Generally graphics tweaks here and there)

The *Members* is the subscription based. With around 2million subscribers. The 350million subscribers which people are reffering to, are the number of created accounts. Now this does include accounts which are innactive (Like my own), perm banned accounts AND the enormous numbers of accounts which are created by gold sellers in sweat shops.

In Runescape, if the account becomes innactive, like stopping the payments. You can still play.. Just only the free version, limited bank storage space, access to a limited number of items etc.

Just noting a point no one mentioned here.
Runescape requires no skill.
It requires nothing more than just some common sense and ability to click a mouse.
Gameplay is completely awful. It's click to walk. You basically attack by clicking once and watching an lovely flow of rng numbers on your enemy. You complain about dps rotation being too easy - runescape doesn't have any at all.
PvP is just rngfest. No skills at all.
You can barely input anything to the game which actually changes something.
No teamwork. (Although there's way more solo content than WoW).
It's very grindy aswell.
Bosses are a joke.

It requires the intelligence of a 10 years old child. Nothing more. In fact, if a 10 years old have grinded more than you, he'll be better than you. The only difference between players is how much have they grinded so far.

Just noting a point no one mentioned here.
Runescape requires no skill.
It requires nothing more than just some common sense and ability to click a mouse.

PvP is just rngfest. No skills at all.

Bosses are a joke.

It requires the intelligence of a 10 years old child. Nothing more. In fact, if a 10 years old have grinded more than you, he'll be better than you. The only difference between players is how much have they grinded so far.

Well done, you highlighted every limitation of a game which is run using... Wait for it...

JAVA The biggest issue with WoW, is the community - and clueless people.

RuneScape still does MOST things much better than World of Warcraft.

Then explain why the !@#$ Cataclysm sold around 4 million copies IN THE FIRST WEEK of the new expansion. Do you honestly think most of WoW's 10 million players are not playing the game, that they are just sitting on the lazy asses while 13 Euro gets pulled from their account monthly? I for one would not, as the last time i checked, i'm one of the 10 million people that plays the game.

WoW has far more than 1 million players online at any given time during the day.
And who gives a %^-* about runescape anyway? A potato can run a game with better graphics.

Correction: 350,000,000 +
(That was last year's figure)

You mean 350,000 right?:P
350 million would be a little too much:)

So floating rocky places are invented by blizzard. Seems legit.
And i think 80% ragekids of this topic have never played runescape but they still write "facts" here :D

27/04/2012 20:57Posted by Maixy

with like 200k customers?

^ That is just too funny :D

70k costumers, they did a anti-bot update in october.
They found out that more then 70% of their community were botters.

^ Thanks for the laugh of the month. I still cant stop smiling when i read your comment :D it's just most ridiculous thing i've heard in a while :D

and right now 2:42 UTC time there is 120k players online. Which is good when you count that its night time now here in europe.

30/04/2012 00:16Posted by Arcinara

Then explain why the !@#$ Cataclysm sold around 4 million copies IN THE FIRST WEEK of the new expansion. Do you honestly think most of WoW's 10 million players are not playing the game, that they are just sitting on the lazy asses while 13 Euro gets pulled from their account monthly

World of Warcraft does alot of things wrong

1. Nothing to do at level 85 (Sit in Orgrimmar/Stormwind, being bored)
2. Lame Quests. - Kill 10 of this, 10 of that, collect 10 of this, 10 of that.
3. Balance Issues
4. Blizzard do nothing about trouble makers unless it affects the racial integrity of the community.
5. Devs - NEVER learn from mistakes. Prime Glyph removals don't count.
6. Levelling from 1-85 is done in a maximum of 5 days if you're dedicated
7. Lack of Content - Between the final "Major Content Patch" and the next Expansion is always somewhere between 8 months to a Year.
8. Wait a long time for terrible, and/or rehashed content. (Z'Gurub/Z'Aman)
9. Nothing is ever new, unique or immersive. No new Battleground game types.
10. Customer Support are as often rude; as they are helpful.
11. Mechanics as stuns, Silences, Interupts and fears Lets go back - to how RuneScape does it. 1. There is always something to do. Sure, it's grindy. But RS can get away with it.

2. Quests - The smallest quest takes about.. 25-30minutes with a quest guide. The longer quests can take 4 hours or more.

3. The RNG-fest. Click attack, and hope you hit hard. Is about as balanced as any game is going to get. Removing the "Skill" factor from it, is also a limitation of the game engine being JAVA.

4. Cause problems for people - swearing, scamming etc - You get muted for x-hours, days. Carry on causing it. You get banned for x-hours, days. You carry on doing it, you get permanently muted (Permissions to speak removed), then if you somehow manage to do something else. You get permanently banned.

5. Devs - Most of the time, learn from the mistakes and are very quick to correct errors such as bugs.

6. Levelling from 3 to Max level can take months, or years. I started playing that game when I was 12 - Played on and off for about 7 years. Never even reached max level.

7. New Content released weekly. Primarily quests, other miscellaneous things.

8. Doesn't exist.

9. Something is unique. Mechanics of things change.

10. I actually have no answer for this. Because I've never required customer support. I heard alot of it was automated replies.

11. Doesn't Exist.

How can you copy a flying rock ? You thikn that wow invented flying rocks, orcs and whatever we keep seeing here ? Not even Diablo classes were unique. Blizzard does not invent most of things, however they get inspired by myths and lore and such ...

Blizzards visual language is familiar to us and thereby it is very easy to say that everyone and everything copies WoW, but it is not true.

1. Nothing to do at level 85 (Sit in Orgrimmar/Stormwind, being bored)

I use SW only as transit for portals. The fact you do not find anything to do in this game, does not mean the game is boring on its core.

2. Lame Quests. - Kill 10 of this, 10 of that, collect 10 of this, 10 of that.

You couldnt be more wrong. WoW lore is quite rich, but maybe next time you actually read the quests instead only the 'kill 10 trogs' part.

3. Balance Issues

.. which is still better than majority other game PvP balances. Iäve tried most games in market and their PvP is rarely anywhere near any balance. heck in wow l15 back stab rogue vs clothie is even more balanced than most other MMO balance ever is going to be.

4. Blizzard do nothing about trouble makers unless it affects the racial integrity of the community.

wait what ?

6. Levelling from 1-85 is done in a maximum of 5 days if you're dedicated

And it is Blizzards fault that people do not sleep ? And levelling is made quick because of the demands of community. It took me to make 1st character L60 more than 32 days played, but guess what would you be happy with that ? No, didn't think so.

7. Lack of Content - Between the final "Major Content Patch" and the next Expansion is always somewhere between 8 months to a Year.

Blizzard has more content than Aion, Swtr and any F2P wonders combined.

8. Wait a long time for terrible, and/or rehashed content. (Z'Gurub/Z'Aman)

It was done on demand of players.

9. Nothing is ever new, unique or immersive. No new Battleground game types.

I've tried some of those unique maps on other games. At end they are still more boring than basic WSG. Go figure. And rest of your post was repeating yourself.

30/04/2012 00:16Posted by Arcinara

Then explain why the !@#$ Cataclysm sold around 4 million copies IN THE FIRST WEEK of the new expansion. Do you honestly think most of WoW's 10 million players are not playing the game, that they are just sitting on the lazy asses while 13 Euro gets pulled from their account monthly?

Actually they do. It was in some interview last year where WoW devs admitted to have a lot of these "floating accounts" around - basically people who haven't even touched the game in months but still have an subscription going on.