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About RP-PvP Events
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Hay i was just wondering why it is that RP-PvP Events exclude people who could be of assistance and help in the fight?
Majority of people who want to help are insulted from the get go and spam whispered piles of hatred. Like just there a few minutes ago we were tracking someone and found a giant event with alliance. Turns out there was some sort of battle taking place. Now with more than 60 alliance in the area you would assume a small force of about 20 horde would need some sort of assistance but instead rather than be nice and let us join to help you out, you disbanded the event and blamed us for killing people? If you did invite us to join these things we would not break your /s /y rules as we don't anyway and would at the very least give you the respect you think we owe you. However instead every single time one of these events happen i see the most vile and rude side of role players. Why is it against the 'Rules' to allow outsiders to get involved. If you say no then we are still able to fight alliance under the server pvp rules, yet you complain that we offer assistance and then complain that we don't leave you alone, when we decide to fight some small skirmishes. Can someone just please explain why these events (which have little to no RP during fights) matter so much as to exclude other members of the server? And then explain also why people think they have the right to be able to fight in the spot and that we may not do our own fights? I have read the RP rules and i am sorry but if alliance are in contest areas event or not they are free game for anyone wishing to fight in that area. So perhaps a little less hostility towards outsiders and have us fighting under your control or deal with more instances where we fight without your say? Honestly i just don't understand why people are so selfish, we don't need your permission to kill alliance, but when we ask its because we want to join you and fight with you, than to spite you for such abuse! |
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26/04/2012
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because: http://i.imgur.com/yqkTU.jpg
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26/04/2012
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Edited by Ciscero on 27/04/12 00:03 (BST)
World PvP happening?
Where!? edit: On your point though Órqar, it maybe because your guild has some what of a tainted reputation among roleplayers (but lets not start a thing about that) However I have experienced the same before in Stonetalon a few months ago, purely because I asked for an invite to the event in general chat and then in /s after getting no response from general chat. After asking in /S I was given abuse by a few members of the raid for speaking "ooc" But, if you cant ask for an invite in General Chat or /S how the hell are you supposed to find out who the raid leader is to get an invite without targeting random people are asking everyone who the raid leader is until you eventually find out? And of course apparently annoying them in the process. |
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26/04/2012
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World PvP happening?Where!? so you can come and kill me again? nowai imma tell you :((( |
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26/04/2012
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Edited by Ciscero on 26/04/12 23:19 (BST)
That's what happens when you kill my alt at the Dark Portal, Ciscero gets mad and then gets his minions in Solace and hunts you down muhahaha (evil laugh) :-) |
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26/04/2012
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Edited by Arli on 26/04/12 23:33 (BST)
Not quite. It was supposed to be a wargame in AV but the Alliance went all (see picture quoted above) and refused to join us in AV because they believed one of the Horde rp guilds had invited your guild *rolls eyes dramatically* to turn up in Alterac and gank them. We had a raid full I think anyway, just not all were hanging out in Alterac Mountains at the time. But yeah, really disappointed with the response from the Alliance particularly as we were all to be instanced in the AV battleground so ABoC being in Alterac mountains didn't matter one sodding bit. |
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26/04/2012
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I would assume that the mighty horde was more then able to fight off the Alliance, Even though their number they would still stand fighting like spartans and fight the greater numbers.
And once AboC come they would've been sad too notice that they no longer may have such an epic fight anymore now that the numbers are even, That the alliance would not counter attack incase the mighty AboC would assult the shy alliance. Am I correct? |
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26/04/2012
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70 Gnome Priest
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It's probably because they mix in RP and realism into the RP-PvP, rather than simply ganking eachother. They line up, use tactical moves, and do pretty much all that they can to make it appear more like an actual battle that makes sense. When the other team is ressing they don't fly after them and attack even if they spawn in the middle amongst them, but rather let them run off and regroup. Before this and after it they do more 'regular' RP, such as preparing for battle before it starts and tending to the wounded once it's over. To have you running around breaking all of these 'rules' that they've worked hard for doesn't exactly encourage them to invite you.
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27/04/2012
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Actually we only had 7 people and we were hunting someone from TLA which is how we found the giant gathering in Western Plaguelands. However there being so many we decided just to stalk and see what was happening. When we lost you in Western, we checked eastern, Trisfal Glades, UC, Hinterlands and Hillsbrad.
You turned up in Hillsbrad. So thinking you might actually be walking in a big line we thought what they hay, may as well try gank a few and die in the process. But when we actually got there, you had already formed battalions and even had an air force. We looked around and couldn't find any horde so obviously we figured we had stumbled into some chest beating contest and prepared to kill as many as we could. And did a rather fine job of destroying the air force and annihilating your forward battalions. This is a pvp server and that many alliance in the open is impossible to miss. The fact that you had actually made formations and had separate forces skilled in different things is like giving a black forest gateau cake to a Ganker and saying enjoy! Now lets be fair, had you just invited us we'd have been under the horde armies control. We'd not have ruined any RP, that you claim we did. And the horde would have had a giant fight in the open with some help to make it an interesting fight. Instead you blocked it from us and we found it anyway. Had you informed us we would not have just automatically attacked. This is and always will be your mistake. Our guilds rep is that of a wpvp guild that kills anything in sight. We do not do end game instances, we don't do arena or rbgs as priority. Our guild does all the nasty things you all do but don't discuss. Now just because we kill 80% of the RP community (since 80% is alliance) and started here on a bad note doesn't mean that you can label us monsters in order to self satisfy yourselves. I have talked to many RP players and they are happy we have come, yet because your community has labelled us monsters they cannot voice their opinions and you have (rather successfully) isolated our guild from the majority of the server. Then when we attempt to make peace you insult us and tell us to F off..... So basically, the issue is that you treat us like crap, insult us and then want us to behave like subordinates. You want us to leave zones, respect large groups in the open, leave lowbies, stop killing your alts and friends and in return you will......... If you have to use a Wargame to prevent us from *ruining* your events and then accuse the horde of having asked us here (when they hate us more than you because they can't kill us), then you really are doing no favours for yourself. Stop the paranoid finger shaking. Our guild isn't after the RP community, we are after any alliance we see in the open. As has been proven when we have attacked other guilds such as Prime and Bloodwind in the past few days. You are not our main diet and we do like variety. More hugs and less hostility. |
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27/04/2012
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Edited by Órqar on 27/04/12 01:14 (BST)
Odd, last time i seen a fight outside Dun Garok the alliance just bashed right into the horde and beat them to pieces and then as they were ressing chased them down again and killed them. Then i recall the horde forming another line and mid RP getting attacked again. Had we not been there, they'd have wiped. I believe what you said is the theory but practically when it happens all of that is ignored and everyone just beats the crap out of each other. The horde always being out numbered get bashed to pieces and the alliance having a 2 - 1 advantage begin patting themselves on the backs. Sorry but RP or not i cannot stand to see alliance thinking they are great when they are killing hordies. I am sure when Ciscero was in Stonetalon Mountains a while ago he seen the same thing and badly wanted to help. Tell me, what the hell is the point in fighting a battle with the same people for the next few years where you never stand a chance of winning? |
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27/04/2012
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Edited by Bentspring on 27/04/12 01:32 (BST)
It's probably because they mix in RP and realism into the RP-PvP, rather than simply ganking eachother. They line up, use tactical moves, and do pretty much all that they can to make it appear more like an actual battle that makes sense. When the other team is ressing they don't fly after them and attack even if they spawn in the middle amongst them, but rather let them run off and regroup. Before this and after it they do more 'regular' RP, such as preparing for battle before it starts and tending to the wounded once it's over. To have you running around breaking all of these 'rules' that they've worked hard for doesn't exactly encourage them to invite you. Probably matters who it is that's organizing the event(s) and who's attending, but the few times I've attented some there was no camping, ganking or the similar. The leaders also communicated with eachother and if one side had more participants than the other some people on the side with the most participants were told to stay out, and then got to swap with the ones that just got to fight afterwards, kinda like reinforcements. One time they actually got both sides to use no abilities at all and just auto hits. The point remains though, you wrestle with their rules and the similar, so it's quite understandable exactly why they don't let you in. Personally I like world PvP, nothing is as sweet as getting your revenge against the guy who ganked your alt for then to slaughter his/her little friends when they come, but well, during these events people aren't out after exactly that, and therefore they don't like you. |
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27/04/2012
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Edited by Órqar on 27/04/12 02:10 (BST)
Odd, last time i seen a fight outside Dun Garok the alliance just bashed right into the horde and beat them to pieces and then as they were ressing chased them down again and killed them. Then i recall the horde forming another line and mid RP getting attacked again. Had we not been there, they'd have wiped. So at times they contradict their own rules and yet they don't hate themselves? Personally i think RPers use our guild as a catalyst, in order to create drama and further isolate themselves from the rest of the community. I think they have been doing this for years and every once and a while one of the guilds they all burn at the stake and curse, bites them in the !@# and they realize that none of the delusions of superiority or grandeur is safe. They then go into melt down mode and start shouting at the neighbours to get off their own property because they have believed for so long that they are in control. Honestly i don't mind if the answer is no and stay away, then we will find something else to occupy our time..... --- .-. / .--- ..- ... - / ..-. .. -. -.. / - .... . / . ...- . -. - / .- -. -.. / -... . .- - / - .... . / ..-. ..- -.-. -.- .. -. --. / ... .... .. - / --- ..- - / --- ..-. / - .... . / .- .-.. .-.. .. .- -. -.-. . / .- -. -.. / .-. ..- .. -. / .. - / ..-. --- .-. / - .... . / .... --- .-. -.. . .-.-.- / . .. - .... . .-. / .-- .- -.-- / -.-- --- ..- / -.. . -.-. .. -.. . --..-- / .-- . / -.. --- -. .----. - / -- .. -. -.. / ..-. ..- -.-. -.- .. -. --. / -.-- --- ..- .-. / ... .... .. - / ..- .--. |
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27/04/2012
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70 Gnome Priest
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Edited by Bentspring on 27/04/12 02:26 (BST)
Nah, those that use them follow them, then there are those that have an entirely different view on things and use different rules.
You really are exaggerating though, the majority of the RP community doesn't care one bit about you, there are just a few that continue becoming your victims as they RP in certain areas, who behave somewhat like that. That's simply because they're annoyed as they're denied what they want so often though, I mean, wouldn't anyone be? It's like someone stealing your cookies and replacing them with a pile of dirt seen from their position. Noone likes to have their cookies stolen! Apart from that, what I mentioned above still counts. |
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27/04/2012
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Edited by Arli on 27/04/12 07:26 (BST)
/giggle And I never thought my training as a marine telecoms engineer would ever come in useful in WoW. Can we use Q codes next? :D QRM? |
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27/04/2012
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:D I could use a code that i invented but wheres the fun in people being unable to translate it. |
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27/04/2012
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Wow, this sounded like an awesome event and much kudos to whoever organized it. Great shame that it didn't come off.
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27/04/2012
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Majority of people who want to help are insulted from the get go and spam whispered piles of hatred Not the majority. Just you guys. |
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27/04/2012
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Edited by Bartazàn on 27/04/12 18:45 (BST)
Orqar, your guild ruin RP events on purpose. i once saw your guild leader (aided by some others of your guild) running in ironforge just for corspe camping the RP hubs and -only- casting on pepole below lvl 84. He also created an ally alt for grief further :D So dont be surpised if the RP side of a RPVP realm /ignore your guild on sight. Acting like victims in a realm where you all decided to not fit in sounds more like a troll attempt to me.
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27/04/2012
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Orqar, your guild ruin RP events on purpose. i once saw your guild leader (aided by some others of your guild) running in ironforge just for corspe camping the RP hubs and -only- casting on pepole below lvl 84. He also created an ally alt for grief further :D So dont be surpised if the RP side of a RPVP realm /ignore your guild on sight. Acting like victims in a realm where you all decided to not fit in sounds more like a troll attempt to me.[/quot You never learn, do you? |
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27/04/2012
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