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Lol, I got used to playing a rogue.
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Check high end ladders, rogue representation is 3000% greater than ferals. |
Representation =/= OP, use your brain and instead of just trying to read the statistics try to decipher them. Ferals in general are OP, it's just that RLS counters most feral comps which prevents them from getting high. Also, rogue is a complete class, feral is just a spec. |
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PvP rogue = sub. And seriously, statistics make the modern world run, get out of your cave and start using it. It'll yield best results. |
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Edited by Kreystyle on 28/04/12 11:34 (BST)
ITT; Someone claiming to be playing rogue, but not posting on rogue. Followed by complaining about how good they are.
Okay, let me help you out here. Every season has it's top dog. This time it's rogue, with legendaries. This will change when MoP comes, then after a few patches, another class will be top. This is the way it has been for almost 8 years. Do you think this post will change the course of this game?.. I think not. Everyone knows rogues are good this season, doesn't mean you have to present yourself as a fool. |
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I can post on which ever character you wish, if that makes any difference. Not that it's down to my example anyway, I was kinda poiting out that rogues, generally, fit in every bracket with pretty much any other class and it can work. That's luxury that no other can afford. |
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Edited by Milkqtx on 28/04/12 12:07 (BST)
What makes lock/shamans strong is their synergy rather than as an individual class They have synergy due to design flaws its still synergy even if you want to be perdantic. And if you think locks are as strong as rogues you're mistaken. ps. did the aj rejects make a club? |
Clearly a gear issue. Put more than 3.5k resi on. [quote="38879624578"] So ferals are as OP as rogues but can't get as high as them on the ladder. You sure make a lot of sense. |
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Edited by Xhype on 28/04/12 17:11 (BST)
Rogues have one viable PvP spec, which is sub, whereas Druids have Balance and Feral, also Resto which is somewhat viable at high ratings. As I said, Rogue is a class whereas Feral Druid is a spec of a class. You can't just stare on the overall Druid representation without trying to decipher the statistics and looking at why it is like that. Ferals are overpowered in general but get hardcountered by RLS, which reduces the amount of ferals in 3v3. I recommend reading Source Criticism on college once you get out of your diapers, you might learn something useful! |
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Edited by Xhype on 28/04/12 17:11 (BST)
Fail on your reading comprehension/quoting. I didn't claim that Ferals were equally overpowered as Rogues, just overpowered in general. If you actually took your time to read the post instead of jumping into the "post reply' button, you might have learned something useful instead of regurgitating (yes, using that word again. You probably don't know what it means though lol) something that's completetly braindead and lacks any relevance with my post. Between 3500-3800 Resilience is recommended for Mages and most Rogues/Mages goes under 4000 to have a good damage output, that doesn't justify the fact that the bleeds from Ferals and their braindead cyclone spamming is balanced whatsoever, sorry. You have pretty bad gear, get the t2 and/or DS hc staff and put up bleeds with procs on a 4k target and the bleeds should be between 12-13k. Retarded nonetheless, and 5% more damage reduction from resilience doesn't just reduce that amount to below 10k if you actually thought so. |
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Iam sorry but thinking bleeds tick for 12-13k is retarded, the crits may tick that amount. As a mage if a feral has enough up time to even force a block on his own your doing it wrong, even with a healer spam dispelling, which if u play RMP a healer will never get to just spam dispell cos of the damage mages and rogue put out, with all the instant CC.
Its not just RLS that counters feral teams, its RMP if the feral isnt playing with a hunter, 2 offensive Dispells makes getting a instant clone off close to impossible without getting help off your team mates. |
Iam sorry but thinking bleeds tick for 12-13k is retarded, the crits may tick that amount. As a mage if a feral has enough up time to even force a block on his own your doing it wrong, even with a healer spam dispelling, which if u play RMP a healer will never get to just spam dispell cos of the damage mages and rogue put out, with all the instant CC. Yeah, I mean crits (isn't that obvious?). Somehow it feels like the ferals bleeds just crits all the time, in any way it's way too high and combine that with a spammable, nondispellable CC which is also instant with Predatory Swiftness and you have an extremely unbalanced class. Not to mention Bear form switching with damage reduction, stamina increase, soaking up damage with a dual mastery, Survival instict, Barkskin, Enraged Renegation, permanent immunity to polymorphs while shapeshifted (the list goes on forever by the way). Can't believe a Feral is actually whining about a Rogue. It's pretty sad really. |
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Edited by Alonso on 28/04/12 17:39 (BST)
Yeah, I mean crits (isn't that obvious?). Somehow it feels like the ferals bleeds just crits all the time, in any way it's way too high and combine that with a spammable, nondispellable CC which is also instant with Predatory Swiftness and you have an extremely unbalanced class. Not to mention Bear form switching with damage reduction, stamina increase, soaking up damage with a dual mastery, Survival instict, Barkskin, Enraged Renegation, permanent immunity to polymorphs while shapeshifted (the list goes on forever by the way). calling troll on this one They crit all the time because we stack Agility, not a very hard concept to grasp. You can dispel the instant proc provided you don't have the reaction time of a sloth. Bear Form survivability is too high, but it still is slightly needed because of how squishy cat form is. Permanent immunity to polymorphs doesn't really matter for Feral since it'd get dispelled instantly anyway Ferals are above average but there's no way you can justify them being OP, and saying that a Feral whining about a Rogue is sad just shows how little you know about how the class actually works. Sure Ferals 'counter' Rogues in 1v1, but in 3v3 Faerie Fire will be dispelled, and Rogues are still way more viable than Ferals. |
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Edited by Xhype on 28/04/12 17:46 (BST)
Yeah, I mean crits (isn't that obvious?). Somehow it feels like the ferals bleeds just crits all the time, in any way it's way too high and combine that with a spammable, nondispellable CC which is also instant with Predatory Swiftness and you have an extremely unbalanced class. Not to mention Bear form switching with damage reduction, stamina increase, soaking up damage with a dual mastery, Survival instict, Barkskin, Enraged Renegation, permanent immunity to polymorphs while shapeshifted (the list goes on forever by the way). I call bad on this one. I didn't question the fact that the bleeds crits often, why would you even mention that seeing the only thing regarding crits in that post was my claim that it crits most of the time. I didn't question why it critted, if you somehow managed to get to that notion. It requires a perfect timing to get of the buff (GCD) along with luck seeing that Druids usually play with Priests who stack several buffs. Rogues are more overpowered than Ferals, I agree with that (although I never claimed they were). Ferals are overpowered though. I do love tips from 1600 rated Druids claiming their class is fine and Rogues are the issue. :) |
Coming from the guy who feels the need to mention that Rogues play sub in PvP as if that had any relevance with the Rogue statistics. Irony at its best. :D |
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Haha, I simply need to quote myself again here.
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Coming from the guy who feels the need to mention that Rogues play sub in PvP as if that had any relevance with the Rogue statistics. Irony at its best. :D |
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Oh well.
I suggest you go and reread what people wrote in this thread, you obviously missed something. Enjoy getting ripped apart for claiming that ferals are as viable as rogues and that statistics mean nothing. ( I suppose only the pro players play rogues and only the newbs play ferals and hang under 2,3-2,4k while pro players - rogues fill the rest all the way to the top). |
Oh well. What am I missing? That you think Ferals are vastly inferior to Rogues? They aren't. You just need to l2p, honestly. Ferals have everything in their arsenal, how can they be so "vastly inferior" to Rogues when they are so similar and both have their ups and downs? Rogue is the most overpowered class, no doubt about it. Crying about Rogues as a feral though is just hilarious, this thread makes me giggle. :) |
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Play with a healer that stands at max range, gives u about 2 seconds to dispell, and i guess your talking about 2s as disc/feral, your playing mage/rogue dont complain about 2s
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