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What kind of DPS am I expected to do?
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Heya. I'm pretty new to this whole warrior business, or DPS in general. I've been healing for most of my WoW time. I've managed to get a little bit of gear, still missing some pieces that I can get through HoTs and stuff but with 383 ilevel I can probably run a DS 10 normal.
The question is, what kind of DPS am I expected to do in this gear? Rotation is as follows: Throw something if I'm at a distance>charge>rend>CS>MS>OP>Slam. Focus is on re-applying CS when it procs, OP and MS. If my rage hits the 90's I chuck in a HS. When the execute phase hits and I have plenty of rage I tend to focus more on execute. I read somewhere that it hits harder than all other abilities when it has rage to spend. I don't neglect MS and OP though but I weave them in rather than prioritise them. I tend to pop deadly calm in the execute phase if I'm running low on rage or at the start of the fight. A lot of times I don't have to though. Recklessnes comes at the beginning of a fight if it's long so I can hopefully use it twice or during the execute phase. Testing myself on a dummy without the execute phase, only battle shout buff and none of the CDs I tended to hover around 20k, getting up to about 22-23k if I get lots of procs and falling to about 19k if I'm proc starved over about 5 minutes. Is that about the expected range? What kind of DPS am I expected to pull in a 10 man DS normal? Any help is greatly appreciated. I really want to do well and be an asset to the raid to the best of my abilities and gear level. |
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Gear isnt too bad... Gemming is alittle odd but nether the less. You're dps is avrage probably just a gear flaw. My gear isnt the best but its alittle better than your gear.
Just testing on a heroic dummy and pulled off about 42k. Dropped to 35k after leaving combat. All i can offer is just get more gear and stack alot more strengh reforge into some mastery, mabye look into some rotations. |
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I just now realised that I can skip a couple of yellows and replace with bold reds. Thanks. I tend to reforge into crit over mastery though. Read somewhere that it's pretty much even steven between crit and mastery.
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Well if you are unsure then get the addon reforgenator. Apparently i have a nice cap on my crit and it tells me to push towards alot more mastery due to most warrior parts having too much expertiese. 12.10% on crit atm and i recon i will keep it around there my mastery atm is 16.77% so they both balance out pretty well for my to stack full strengh gems into my gear.
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Gear isnt too bad... Gemming is alittle odd but nether the less. You're dps is avrage probably just a gear flaw. My gear isnt the best but its alittle better than your gear. Lol and your gems are better? Gem str, reforge 8%hit/26exp > crit > mastery > haste |
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what's your dps on lfr ultraxion?
don't change your gems,check http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3782228475 for the rotation and ignore the inner rage part until you get 2p tier 13.use reck in the execute phase for lfr/raids unless the fight it longer than 5 minutes. prioritise ms/op in the execute phase unless you're above 70 rage. check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OWoxXTB7i4 to squeeze a little bit of dps in the execute phase |
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Well if you are unsure then get the addon reforgenator. Apparently i have a nice cap on my crit and it tells me to push towards alot more mastery due to most warrior parts having too much expertiese.Another reason not to use reforging addons you can't config yourself... Let me make one thing clear. Crit does not have a cap until 100% chance. You are not even close to it, unless you pop reck and use OP. So no, you do not want to shift Crit into Mastery, you want as much Crit as you can because it is your best stat after Str by a long shot. As for your gear: You could drop a tad Hit (you are 24 Hit over the cap), but good otherwise. Get some upgrades is all I can say though. Also, a socket bonus of Str is always worth it, irregardless of socket color. As for your rotation, you might want to go find the recent thread about opener. IIRC it also included an in-combat rotation, and you need to change yours a little. |
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Edited by Lanaii on 27/04/12 12:57 (BST)
Generally you open with a charge into a leap midway then MS to get your lambs rolling asap > rend > normal rotation. |
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Gear isnt too bad... Gemming is alittle odd but nether the less. You're dps is avrage probably just a gear flaw. My gear isnt the best but its alittle better than your gear. Oh sorry mate, i dont think you read the part were i said...
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Also im a main pvp player this is just offset pve :P |
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Edited by Lanaii on 27/04/12 12:56 (BST)
Lol and your gems are better? You were saying his gems are bad while you are gemming mastery and putting 20 str/20crit gems into red sockets. I dont need to read anymore after seeing that. |
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Right yeah, I read the thread on rotation. Thanks for that, I'll do some adjustments.
I quite frankly can't remember my DPS on Ultraxx LFR. I've only done him once or twice I think. Not sure if I can find what my DPS was the last time I did him somewhere though, I'll poke around. Thanks a lot for all the tips. Gearing up is nr 1 priority. Change me rotation a little bit. Question remains though, in this type of gear, what kind of DPS am I expected to do on a normal 10 man DS? I just hate getting yelled at for lower DPS than what they expect :( |
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I know abit about warrior pve but yeah you're right. I dont play my pve spec as much that's why the gemming is bad. But i still know going pretty much full strengh gems is the way to go just because my gear is bad doesnt mean i know. Why would i waste gold on gems for a set i hardly use. Anyway keep this post constructive its to help the op |
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Edited by Deyewos on 27/04/12 14:52 (BST)
Surely you'd want that heroic leap fit inside a cs? delaying it abit shouldn't matter due to its long cd Or is it not affected by it? edit: Also, Landsoul mentioned putting up CS before the first rend was a better choice somewhere. Due to rend normally wouldn't give you an extra proc either way. He didn't include any math though I believe Landsoul is correct but I don't liek making changes if I can't check the facts for myself so I haven't taken the leap to CS before rend myself, and going by "common sense" wasting a global inside CS seems to be worse |
I said during your charge midway towards the boss you just leap directly ontop of it. You get the juggernaut buff the extra rage + the dmg from the leap. And you start with MS not CS since getting lambs to 3 stacks has prio. |
I said during your charge midway towards the boss you just leap directly ontop of it. You get the juggernaut buff the extra rage + the dmg from the leap. And you start with MS not CS since getting lambs to 3 stacks has prio. I know exactly what you said, but I don't think you have any clue what I said on any of it |
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Edited by Jolu on 27/04/12 19:09 (BST)
If you can sustain 20k on the dummy like you said then you're absolutely fine. 20k is around the minimum for Ultraxion, which is the first real dps check. With buffs and extra rage from damage taken you should easily be pulling your weight on him and everything else. |
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Well if 20k is the minimum I can do that! I suppose you're expected to hit DS at around my gear level and still not keep the group down.
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id say u should pull around 30k on fights like ultraxion easily.. if u just get might... |
