Topic Warrior Beta Spell Ref. Nerf to 30 seconds
Arthaskl
Terokkar
Arthaskl
85 Human Warrior
6315
Edited by Arthaskl on 01/05/12 21:27 (BST)
....im speechless
Rerererw
Dragonmaw
Rerererw
2 Dwarf Rogue
0
allrdy they start to nerf warrior like ....? whit what u are thinking ? maiby look paladin druids warlocks mages or enything but warrior :D they hate so much warrior so it seems if they allrdy started whit warrior nerf the mop cant be good xpansion for warriors :D good luck warriors i feel ur pain
Kakio
Khadgar
Kakio
85 Night Elf Druid
7510
spellreflect is pretty OP at low lvls of pvp you must remember. I use it to do most of my dmg on my prot warrior and its sooo OP when i time it correctly.
Arthaskl
Terokkar
Arthaskl
85 Human Warrior
6315
Edited by Arthaskl on 01/05/12 21:40 (BST)
Is the worst defense we have against casters compared to other melee classes and they still have the balls to nerf it

AMS.......

Cloak of Shadow.......different league
Niveaformanz
Aggramar
Niveaformanz
85 Goblin Rogue
11170
Nothing to do with the ability being an effective defence.

They just like decreasing the gap between good warriors and bad ones.
Kakio
Khadgar
Kakio
85 Night Elf Druid
7510
Is the worst defense we have against casters compared to other melee classes and they still have the balls to nerf it

AMS.......

Cloak of Shadow.......different league


so? ferals have nothing except clones...
enhance has nothing but grounding

and spellreflect is not only a defensive cd, it can be gamebreaking if you reflect a clone, poly, fear or whatever.
Niveaformanz
Aggramar
Niveaformanz
85 Goblin Rogue
11170
01/05/2012 21:43Posted by Kakio
and spellreflect is not only a defensive cd, it can be gamebreaking if you reflect a clone, poly, fear or whatever.


jk cloned with reflect up.
Ikillyouheal
Mazrigos
Ikillyouheal
20 Undead Hunter
150
Really? I thought Spell reflect just got lowered to 15 seconds from 25? now it's up at 30 again.

lol reroll ret scrubs
Arthaskl
Terokkar
Arthaskl
85 Human Warrior
6315
01/05/2012 21:44Posted by Niveaformanz
and spellreflect is not only a defensive cd, it can be gamebreaking if you reflect a clone, poly, fear or whatever.


yeah would be in fact amazing to be able to use spell reflect on partners
Thõris
Khadgar
Thõris
70 Dwarf Priest
1020
01/05/2012 21:48Posted by Arthaskl
and spellreflect is not only a defensive cd, it can be gamebreaking if you reflect a clone, poly, fear or whatever.


yeah would be in fact amazing to be able to use spell reflect on partners


wtf are you on about rofl?
Arthaskl
Terokkar
Arthaskl
85 Human Warrior
6315
Edited by Arthaskl on 01/05/12 21:54 (BST)
01/05/2012 21:51Posted by Thõris
wtf are you on about rofl


he just mention that warrior could reflect awesome cc but he forgot that warriors mostly get trained and not cc'd in 3s
Paratas
Kilrogg
Paratas
90 Human Warrior
14040
Is the worst defense we have against casters compared to other melee classes and they still have the balls to nerf it

AMS.......

Cloak of Shadow.......different league


so? ferals have nothing except clones...
enhance has nothing but grounding

and spellreflect is not only a defensive cd, it can be gamebreaking if you reflect a clone, poly, fear or whatever.


Surely you must be trolling to defend ANOTHER totally uncalled for nerf to spell reflect. Its just about the only thing a warrior can do while he's stuck in constant roots and novas already on a long cd and very unreliable due to server lag. enhance can heal/hex same thing with ferals, they also have a lot more outs from snares and roots. warriors are already locked out of most games to be nothing more than spectators and you want to make it worse?
Lusun
Sporeggar
Lusun
77 Blood Elf Warrior
650
01/05/2012 21:43Posted by Kakio
so? ferals have nothing except clones...

they have bear form, stuns, movement speed buff, reflect need buff, not nerf :P
Kakio
Khadgar
Kakio
85 Night Elf Druid
7510
01/05/2012 22:01Posted by Lusun
so? ferals have nothing except clones...

they have bear form, stuns, movement speed buff, reflect need buff, not nerf :P


heard warriors also have shield wall+stuns...



so? ferals have nothing except clones...
enhance has nothing but grounding

and spellreflect is not only a defensive cd, it can be gamebreaking if you reflect a clone, poly, fear or whatever.


Surely you must be trolling to defend ANOTHER totally uncalled for nerf to spell reflect. Its just about the only thing a warrior can do while he's stuck in constant roots and novas already on a long cd and very unreliable due to server lag. enhance can heal/hex same thing with ferals, they also have a lot more outs from snares and roots. warriors are already locked out of most games to be nothing more than spectators and you want to make it worse?


spellreflect is a really really good tool and its ok that it had a certain cd so you cant just waste it mindlessly knowing it will be up in a sec. Shorter cooldowns means shorter thought in using them. See so many warriors using berserker rage to get out of sap and then the rogue doesnt open and just waits for new DR and saps again and they get roflstomped because of it. Short cds make people not even think about wasting them.

01/05/2012 21:53Posted by Arthaskl
wtf are you on about rofl


he just mention that warrior could reflect awesome cc but he forgot that warriors mostly get trained and not cc'd in 3s


play with a rdruid or something and you wont find yourself getting trained so much ;)
Arthaskl
Terokkar
Arthaskl
85 Human Warrior
6315
Edited by Arthaskl on 01/05/12 22:29 (BST)
01/05/2012 22:18Posted by Kakio
play with a rdruid or something and you wont find yourself getting trained so much ;)


but i would find that my healer died in the open

about shield wall: 5 minute cd , make you go defensive force you to 1h+shield , share cd with retaliation-recklesness

surviavl instinct- no penality
evasion- no penality
ice bound- no penality

you see my point ? warriors have the worst cd's but they still manage to nerf more and more every patch
Lusun
Sporeggar
Lusun
77 Blood Elf Warrior
650
01/05/2012 22:18Posted by Kakio
Short cds make people not even think about wasting them.

ice lance, all cc like roots etc need more cd than spellrelfect then.
Bluntyqt
Outland
Bluntyqt
85 Human Warlock
1565
Good, all warriors need to be viable is Avatar. Spell reflect on 15 seconds+Warrior damage+MoP buffs, i would have been overkill.
Sttorrm
Outland
Sttorrm
90 Blood Elf Hunter
16940
ghostcrawler still hasn't gotten over s9
Zeø
Quel'Thalas
Zeø
90 Human Warrior
7065
01/05/2012 22:26Posted by Bluntyqt
Good, all warriors need to be viable is Avatar. Spell reflect on 15 seconds+Warrior damage+MoP buffs, i would have been overkill.


How? 15 seconds still wasn't that good, 30 is just retarded for the easiest tool in game to prevent.
Lusun
Sporeggar
Lusun
77 Blood Elf Warrior
650
01/05/2012 22:26Posted by Bluntyqt
Good, all warriors need to be viable is Avatar

its talent, i will not pick it if it will give me 10 sec spell reflect :D

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