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[[Guild idea]] A real worgen Pack?
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Edited by Nightgrace on 05/05/12 12:10 (BST)
The info below are stuff for when we made the guild, now it servers for feedback aswell, here is a link to the recruitment thread!
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3961826289 Hello there everyone, thank you for reading this. Let me just start of by saying that this is NOT the idea for a everyday worgen pack that you see in Stormwind attack people without any reason. So without the hate for that, let me being! Many, if not everyone who are active on the forum, can agree that the current status of the Gilnean RP community apears much like a joke, one of the many reason due to the packs that lives there. In a attempt to slightly repair the worgen RP community, i am going to put up a plan for a completly other kind of worgen Pack that you might have seen BUT: With the current status of the Worgen Packs and the view on them, this is noting i can simply make a random guild and shoot of, i am going to need support, help, and ideas to bring this idea true if we can, i am accepting all sorts of feedback for this, ideas, and comments. A name for the Pack is yet under work by me, its to be added later. Most of the view of how the guild might be should apear slightly like the Bloodfang pack, they apear in the Silverpine Q line for horde, and in Shadowfang keep for the Alliance. The Pack itself, is going to be far more feral/ wolf based then anything els. This guild is NOT to be a another social Stormwind pack you see everyday attacking people. My view of a pack is a group of worgens who lives by themselves, Hunts for themselves, And defend their home from anything. There have been a handful of long comments about just this, and all the flaws, problems, and anything els that comes up i hope to get sorted here, so i am going to start of with how i like to the guild apear. The life style: The life style of the pack is to be highly wolf like for a real Pack. Males should likely be walking around in pants alone, females mostly got some scraps that covers themselves, and Pack members are not at all to enjoi their human form, The Worgen form is seen as their true face, their call, their real self. Note: Fighting between eachother, and other highly wolf like things are very likely to apear in a pack like this, aswell the brutal fight for leadership! The Hunt: I Hate to see the high lack of this in every pack guild, So if i shoot this idea of you will expect to see alot of hunting for food, hunting grounds. Aswell as training for just hunting among the new bloods and young. Note: The part of eating the fresh killed boar might apear pretty gore, but should not be to much for people to not handel, i just note this up for they with a weak stomach! "Hey, I am another Pack! I am here to be social!": Many might belive that this is how most packs talks between eachother, and i am afraid...the truth is that they are. But this pack shall not. A real Pack would attack on sight anyone of another pack who attempts to enter their home without a damned cursed good reason, the Pack is not ment to join others and aid them in their task, they are to be highly hostile towards eachother, the only agreement they ever might make with other packs are the lines for the hunting grounds. Note: Anyone who attack to enter their home is likely to be attacked, but remember the home is going to be somewhere alone, where people rarely go, So i wont affect peoples RP if they are RPing there very much, If a problem would apear in this, It will be sorted so we can come to an agreement OOC, As OOCly we dont want to massively ruin peoples other RP, and no, we wont make any attempts to kill you, unless its agreed OOC or you might even ask us to. The Recruting: One of the problems that will apear, is how we get more members, we are not social in any sort of way, where will they come from!? Well i have a handful of ways that might work for that. 1 You find us: Somehow you have heard of the Pack, you seek a home and to become strong so you seek us out yourself. Dont forget we are hostile towards everyone who is not a part, if you do not warn you are coming to seek to join, better talk fast before we jump on ya! 2 Recruited by us: Here is an idea that was used in the Blood Fury Pack, the current officers or the Alpha is going to make his/hers way into town in human from, maybe not dressed that well, and attempt to seek out packless worgens without a home to take them under their arms to train them and let them become a part of the pack. Even if this makes little sence...Its somthing we might need to do for a while in the start as we cant lead a Pack without any members. 3: Born in the Pack: First of all NOOO! Your not going to a RP a 2 year old talking pup! To many of them and to be honest...2 year old pups cant talk... If you come to the agreement with us OOC to want to be born in the Pack, you are likely to get to pick a mother among the females in the Pack, We will make sure there are a hole bunch of pups that have grow up with us that are non-Charather yet, You will become one of them, be given a pretty alright age, speak of 15+ Maybe 17+ Still working on that. This will avoid us having mad pups running around with shotguns... And that brings me to the next point! The fighting: We are feral beasts, we are to fight with our own claws, not weapons, any sort of weapon we might use would be some sort of big fist claw weapon, but mainly we stick with our claws. ( If we ever join some RP PVP event, this thing will be looked over as it might be needed) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And that my friends, is ONLY the start of this idea, What i ask for now is feedback! Good, Bad, Sucky, Awsome, etc etc. I want it all here aswell as your ideas, comments, and maybe you want to support ingame in some way! I will awnser all your comments and replys as soon as i can, and hope you enjoi the start of my idea! EDIT: Sorry if i made any big spelling mistakes or so, my minds are as simple as a beasts to say. |
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To grizzly hills with yeh lot!
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I just add it to the list of where the home we maybe will be in mister dwarf. |
I am planning to add alot more to my idea, but the very common problem is that i lack the stable people to get this going, i need help and support to find people like that. And not drama people who quit after a day! |
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FFS Y U NO ACCEPT SUPER GROWTH POTION WORGENS WITH PLATES AND 2, 2hand weapons?! /gquit |
Well to use that potion all the time i would like a good reason, and dont forget we dont walk around with weapons. Oh wait, you already left? Nevermind... |
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I would personally suggest you don't do this and go somewhere else, but who am I to discourage what seems like the best of the thousand pack ideas? I'll just leave you with one sentence.
Please have high recruitment standards. |
I would personally suggest you don't do this and go somewhere else, but who am I to discourage what seems like the best of the thousand pack ideas? I'll just leave you with one sentence. I can tell you that i am fully aware that i am not the first one, and i wont be the last one, and yes the recruitment standards will be high. Remember the hole idea up here is to make a worgen pack that are somthing completly els of what you see, SOMTHING REAL AND AWESOME! If it works out that is. |
And end up having nine members? You actually need to TEACH people how to roleplay, not just shun them because they don't have a grip of it... yet. Of course, some people cannot be helped. Don't accept these people. But If you believe that someone, upon improving his roleplaying a little bit, may make a wonderful roleplayer, than have no doubts and accept him right in. Giving tips cannot possibly hurt. |
Yes my view, as most worgen Pack RPers tend to be abit big egoed and unable to change at all, but i shall indeed looking over to give them support and training to fit into the guild, giving the idea of starting up as born in the pack a good chance if you need a new start! |
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If this idea kicks off and proves to be a genuinely good guild, then you might want to consider sorting something out in Duskwood. There is a big need for a less powerful evil guild in Duskwood than Bane in my opinion, as Bane tend to be really hard to fight/kill. You might want to consider having your member OOCly travel down there and just play as random feral worgen in a planned event every once in a while to mix things up.
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Edited by Jolver on 04/05/12 19:02 (BST)
At least you got me reconsidering my decision to join The Backcoats on this char, if nothing else.
As a whole, the idea seems actually quite good. A pack guild with actual standards and thought-out reasons and actions is what the realm needs, in my opinion. I find the overall hostile mood towards outsiders intriguing, and hunting events might be quite fun, really, if executed well. Regardless, if/whenever you plan on creating the guild, don't shy away from asking me to sign the charter. And should you require some activity or (minor) assistance, I might be able to aid, if only slightly. Edit: @Kîmberly: I do not believe the guild could last long in Duskwood, being so close to Stormwind and Night Watch. They are, after all, hunting for the feral worgen in the woods. On the other hand, it could indeed cause interesting cross-guild events if some guild went hunting for the pack, but otherwise, I wouldn't deem it a wise possibility. |
Well Kimberly, one of the spots i do have in mind for a home just happens to be in duskwood, so we would likely to run into eachother and so on, I dont plan this guild to be so powerful, just expect us to be pretty brutal even if wound, instinct to say. But yes, i could easy look into the matter to have a handful of members to go as some other random ferals in Duskwood and have the Bane gore them up abit or somthing! |
At least you got me reconsidering my decision to join The Backcoats on this char, if nothing else. Thanks alot for your support Jolver! I will be sure to give you a poke ingame if i plan to set this up, and as it looks now it most likely will, but i will await abit more before i think of that to see abit more what people think and where we can go etc etc. But again, thanks for your offer to support! |
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Just skimmed over the reading -very- quickly but I would suggest a worgen pack to possibly fight in Silverpine then and operate out of a recaptured Pyrewood or Ambermill. The simple fact is that even with Gilneas in GLF control, you simply don't have much reason to hang out there. The civillian population can be assumed to be near non-existent, and unless you plan on mining or chopping down trees, there's simply nothing to reasonably do there.
The best thing would be to possibly create your pack and offer your services to the night elves (the Ashenleafs come to mind) in return for the service they did your country. Alternatively there are also places like Duskwood where you can actually have a real and interesting goal to pursue. The reason I do not necessarily advertise Silverpine has nothing to do with the Blackcoats but simply because it will quickly involve RP-PvP, and as a pack, though IC a strong group of fighters, you generally are restricted to bare-claw fighting and that will put you at a real disadvantage against any characters using weapons. (Not the strongest argument, but one to be considered.) The thing about packs, as you describe their lifestyle as "shunning" their human form, is that they can't really afford that. Worgen come from druids who lost themselves in their beastly form, and pack-worgen are even more liable to this when they don't change back. A part of your RP at least will have to be centered around some form of druidic rituals and a search for balance between human and wolf, because else it just isn't feasible to be in worgen form day and night. |
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Edited by Nightgrace on 04/05/12 19:12 (BST)
@ Shevington.
First of all, thank you for the detailed post, i sure gave me a few things to think over and i tell you i will. For the matter where we will be based, is likely away from Gilneas for a start atleast, Likely the cave in Westfall, or a place i got in mind in Duskwood. So we wont be up there to start with, but if things go good then we shall look into it. About the worgen life style stuff, Yes i shall look over it in some way, maybe make sure people add some druidic things into the life style. I shall think of that. Yet again, thanks for the well detailed post. EDIT: Just remember that we are ment to be a pretty feral based pack, and lost alot to the beast to say, but i will look into the matter closer about this. |
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Well Kimberly, one of the spots i do have in mind for a home just happens to be in duskwood, so we would likely to run into eachother and so on, I dont plan this guild to be so powerful, just expect us to be pretty brutal even if wound, instinct to say. It is more for the other guilds over in Darkshire that I am thinking of here. Giving them something new on their patrols and such. Even if you don't come here and you go up north, which desperately needs more RP, you can still do an ooc event every once in a while as just random beasts, and it allows them to practice their RP of getting killed for when Kim comes and turns you all into rugs... except for you... you'd make some nice boots! |
It is more for the other guilds over in Darkshire that I am thinking of here. Giving them something new on their patrols and such. I keep that in mind, and its unlikely we go up north to start with, due to other packs likely going rage etc etc at the start. And i shall take contact with the other guilds in Darkshire when i got time if i get the guild up.
B-but....i was always thinking i was making a good pillow... |
@ Shevington. In that case might I still offer a thing about balance? A feral based pack is cool but at a certain point you can devolve into mere beasts. It could be a very interesting thing to start with a really feral pack (once you've recruited a few people) who really are more animal than human (though their minds remain in-tact, and not conquered by the beast) and who then start down a path of redemption and balance, trying to find ways to become more human again so they can well, retain or even recover their memories and everything that made them who they are. In my old Gilnean guild on ER we had some very interesting RP with a feral worgen who was 'cured' (for lack of a better word); he was stuck in his worgen form, but he was rediscovering his humanity (and learning to speak properly again), which was a very cool development of a character. |
