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Mad at mages? read this
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op forgot to talk about the cc without any cooldown
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You talk like mages are the only problem here. With lock/shaman dominating during this entire expansion (and maybe previous ones, idk because I didn't play them) I wonder why people complain about mages and rogues almost exclusively. I'm ok with them nerfing mages, but not while there's a bunch of other OP classes and comps running around. It's like mages have to be OP to even stand a chance. |
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Edited by Galty on 11/05/12 02:00 (BST)
I know from personal experience a mage will be the biggest pain the backside in game when played well and admittedly that is difficult to do in 3v3, BUT.. With comps like RMP running going loljks who needs to kite when their healer is dead in our opener. I'm not saying they're the only problem but being as this is a thread about mages bringing up other classes seems to be OT and pointless for the current thread D: and yeah played Warlock in Burning crusade and it wasn't exactly hard.. Fear spam with dots up and things died pretty easily D: EDIT: Also destro in WotlK.. If you've not seen a video of a Destro Lock in arena from WotlK then you're missing out on some funny stuff. ''http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJKls4BrJw'' just to educate you a bit on how easy it was being a destro lock in previous expansions, they've never really had a hard time getting glad from since i've been playing. |
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/palm lol jk 35k chimera and 3 22k arcane shots |
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Don't knock it till you've seen it =P I can crit like 40k with arcanes on dummy with onuse trinket + bom + battle shout up those 3.2k resi xandyn fans <3 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AL0UXsNljM |
I guess you mean poly, well, good luck casting with melee training your face, and the healer you're trying to poly, simply runs out of los.
I did expect some DK hate. But play it right and we mages hate you as well <3 |
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Edited by Galty on 11/05/12 04:17 (BST)
I did expect some DK hate. But play it right and we mages hate you as well <3 I should hope so 'n all! Haha but yes DK is not my main, in the current expansion and the amazing 'oh look we made something viable... and its not viable anymore' patching that has happened this Expansion for classes I enjoy playing or general dumbing down of said class I now just do arena with some guildies playing silly things like Unholy/Enhancement just because we love to troll dem mages! In fact I only leveled this to see how easy it was to play, got 1900 in the first week of being 85 and just kinda left it until i wanted to tank some LFR <3 |
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http://i.imgur.com/ySs3O.png
I believe this is appropriate |
25k+ ice lance spam is what, burst or "weak sustained dmg"? that'll happen twice with fof proc having 2 stacks. so...burst. And I don't care, i'm not talking about warriors. |
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Our pet is OP for sure, out of invisibility I can get guaranteed shatter because first frostbolt is too fast and you notice mage when 30k Ice Lance is already on it's way.
Also, watching some 3's Deep freeze is used on healers to stop them from LoSing sheep. If blizz changes our mastery to a passive dmg increase and makes frozen targets to take only 10% extra damage, then people would qq even more at how mages are spamming frostbolt and doing high damage all the time instead under certain circumstances. Imo in MoP frost mastery will change due to dispel change, everyone will be frozen more often which means more shatters and more qq. I hope they don't go with "Oh, let's change it to a passive increaser that will be buffed too much at start, then nerfed and at last patch be too good due to ridiculous scaling of stats and trinket procs" |
The pet can be killed a matter of seconds. 30k lance on a geared player is over exadurated unless it's human fully geared.
depends on comp/situation, but yes, it's used sometimes like that.
if that did that this season, mages would do nothing, frostbolt is hardly ever cast agaisnt certain comps because you'd only get interrupted every time you tried.
I'd be up for gaining some passive consistent damage inplace of burst. |
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Protip to all mad warriors, spec Gag Order and the mage will atleast hate you. Doing this you can throw your weapon at mage everytime he uses Deep Freeze and you've just saved your team or 20k of your healers mana. If he Deeps Freezes you, then call it out on Skype and tell your 2 other friends to stop the mage or dispel you. You all make it sound so hard while it just requires one skill or communication.
If I'd be a first time player and would read all this mage hate, I'd get the feeling that all mages do is Frostnova someone and spam Ice Lance to that nova for it's full duration. And nothing else. Mages aren't the highest damage dealer in arena, they dont burst the highest numbers either. I find this season to be most balanced one I've played so far on any of my 8 characters. (outside of 3 physical dps derping to 2.2k which can be countered by certain ways and certain setups.) Yes PvE geared RMP hits hard and does not lose games so easily but that is another issue regarding PvE. Only thing I'd say is kinda amazing is how mage can open with his partner if mage (and his rogue/feral friend) is stealthed and even that can be countered by almost every setup by just blanket silencing the mage by spamming CS/Spell Lock/Silencing shot/Gag Order and what not. Remember, there are 5 other people playing their characters on that arena and the mage wont be able to solo them all by him/herself. With love <3 |
It's nice to see another person who's not braindead but can I ask, which seasons did you play? because this season is far from balanced. |
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S1-4 and S9 to current. Skipped almost WotLK due military training and other related things. Could only play few games around decent ratings so I got the basic idea about it plus WCM has nice videos about that expansion.
Not to bring it to balance discussion but I find every class has a viable setup this season to reach high ratings. Even these legendaries are not the most op ones compared to Glaives or the ICC 2h wep which basically turned 1.8k players into Gladiators. And sidenote, frostmages only viable setup is RMP, other comps fire is better (if only a margin) or some other class. |
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wotlk was the best stage, so you missed the best ^^
Both glaives and shadowmourne took a long time to gain, and raiding dedication. The droprate on glaives was so so low, and getting to illidan wasn't an easy thing for most people. Shadowmourne was a long long quest chain which ended up with you needing to raid 25 man every week. These current legendaries? I see pugs all the time for DS. Most rogues I see now days have them. |
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http://i.imgur.com/ySs3O.png i think you could well be right there >.< |
