Topic (Locked) Most overpowered classes for PvP
Canidae
Azuremyst
Canidae
85 Worgen Death Knight
8255
Edited by Canidae on 11/05/12 10:26 (BST)
I have played a dk as a Blood, Frost and Unholy. This is how i see it.

Also I dont have to repeat myself, I have played every class and am experienced in most of them, and one of them is a DK.

Since I have played every class I know every pros and cons when fighting with this class that class etc etc...

Anyway, this is how I see it. If your dont like the list then post your own here I would be intrested in seeing your opinions :)


That you have played every character doesn't make you experienced nor knowledgable about the weaknesses and strenghts about every class.

That you then do well on a Frost DK making them "OP" and do bad on an Enh. Shaman making then "UP" is making wrong assumptions. It would be better to say that the skill cap of certain classes is lower, so Frost DKs do well with little knowledge while others require more skill.
On your posting character you only have 9.2K HKs done 234 and did no arena's. Thats almost nothing. This DK alt did 46 BGs and got 2k HK during leveling alone and I leveled him with a lot of PvE mixed in. I wouldn't even want to say I am even close to understanding DKs in PvP. No I'd require atleast 500 BGs and some arenas on level 85 to say that.

As one already posted:
If everyones 'opinion' differs from your point its preety safe to say that these 'opinions' are most probably fact and you are just plain wrong

p.s blowing up baddies as blood in random BGS =/= pvp


Both points, good ones.
Gilrak
Defias Brotherhood
Gilrak
90 Troll Hunter
6205
11/05/2012 10:24Posted by Vitalor
Resto druids are also the only healer most classes can kill solo.


Rogues can beat disc priests
Warriors can beat disc priests
Mages can beat disc priests
Shadow priests can beat disc priests
Frost dk can beat disc priests..
etc etc

I dont understand you point?

More classes can kill rest druids than discs, who are currently considert to be the 2nd beast healer.

I'm talking about equally geared and skilled dps against a healer.
Most dps classes wont kill a equelly geared and skilled disc priest in a 1-one-1, aside from maybe rogues and DK's.
Vitalor
Kazzak
Vitalor
90 Tauren Shaman
8490
Too lazy to quote..

"Resto druids are also the only healer most classes can kill solo."

Nuff said.
Gilrak
Defias Brotherhood
Gilrak
90 Troll Hunter
6205
Too lazy to quote..

"Resto druids are also the only healer most classes can kill solo."

Nuff said.

Exactly.

Most classes cant kill a equelly geared and skilled disc priest in 1 1-on-1
Littelhorn
Kilrogg
Littelhorn
85 Night Elf Death Knight
3475
Dk blood vs Mage frost.

Mage catch dk in frost nova.
Then let him waste CD:s Frost nova again.
Ice cage. Ice lance Ice lance Ice lance Frost bolt.
Even with a healer that goes real quick I can survive with about 20% health if I figure out when a mage will do that other then that no DK can get easly pwned by a Frost mage.

Rogue x 2 vs DK blood + disc priest..
Well placed ambush stuns and all DK don't stand a chans IF he don't some how break free from rogues stuns he's a dead meat.
Mirun
Azuremyst
Mirun
90 Dwarf Warlock
9995
Edited by Mirun on 11/05/12 10:36 (BST)
Resto druids are also the only healer most classes can kill solo.


Rogues can beat disc priests
Warriors can beat disc priests
Mages can beat disc priests
Shadow priests can beat disc priests
Frost dk can beat disc priests..
etc etc

I dont understand you point?


Rogues can beat Frost DKs
Warriors can beat Forst DKs
Mages can beat Frost DKs
Shadow priests can beat Frost DKs
Enh Shamans can beat Frost DKs
etc etc

Are Frost DKs balanced and not OP now? Since they can be beaten....

Class balance isn't about who beats who. But about who kills a lot of classes and specs with such an tremendous ease, thats its a shure win. Stating that class or spec can be beaten is a lame point, even if it is easier to beat 1 healer 1 on 1 and others not. Because thats what PvP is about.
Vitalor
Kazzak
Vitalor
90 Tauren Shaman
8490
Actually about 70% of all classes can beat any healer if played correctly.

But what you stated at first was the resto druid is the only class that can be beaten solo, and now you are changing what you were saying at first.
Ducianna
Stormreaver
Ducianna
90 Blood Elf Priest
11775
I think holy priest and shadow priest are most overpowered spec in the game.

I mean, look at holy priest "guardian spirit", OMG! So OP! I mean it can totally save your life, best single target cd in-game.

And shadowpriests have dispersion, 90% YES, 90%!!!! Damage reduction and immune to all slows. This is so unfair compared to other classes, I don't like playing an OP class. I request a nerf!
Vitalor
Kazzak
Vitalor
90 Tauren Shaman
8490
11/05/2012 10:33Posted by Mirun


Rogues can beat disc priests
Warriors can beat disc priests
Mages can beat disc priests
Shadow priests can beat disc priests
Frost dk can beat disc priests..
etc etc

I dont understand you point?


Rogues can beat Frost DKs
Warriors can beat Forst DKs
Mages can beat Frost DKs
Shadow priests can beat Frost DKs
Enh Shamans can beat Frost DKs
etc etc

Are Frost DKs balanced and not OP now? Since they can be beaten....


I was just making a point to my friend here :) also I never said that frost DKs are op.
Gilrak
Defias Brotherhood
Gilrak
90 Troll Hunter
6205
Actually about 70% of all classes can beat any healer if played correctly.
.

Not if both are equelly skilled, which is something you fail to understand.

Unlike resto druids, who simply have no chance against a dps who knows how to burst.
Komenasai
Azjol-Nerub
Komenasai
90 Night Elf Death Knight
12405
Basically blood dks are OP, IF whoever you're fighting is stupid enough to let you stay on them. Which comes seems very common...

If you're melee, you use your head and the blood dies, if your ranged, you keep ranged and the blood dies.
Mirun
Azuremyst
Mirun
90 Dwarf Warlock
9995
Edited by Mirun on 11/05/12 10:41 (BST)


Rogues can beat Frost DKs
Warriors can beat Forst DKs
Mages can beat Frost DKs
Shadow priests can beat Frost DKs
Enh Shamans can beat Frost DKs
etc etc

Are Frost DKs balanced and not OP now? Since they can be beaten....


I was just making a point to my friend here :) also I never said that frost DKs are op.


Do read my edit.
And you DO state they are OP. They are first on your list in the OP.
So unless you somehow make a list about "Most overpowered classes for PvP", and put the weakest on top you'd have a point. But since you don't and put the most OP classes/specs on top, I see you are stating that Frost DKs are as you put it "Most overpowered".
Rinba
Ragnaros
Rinba
51 Goblin Mage
7090
[quote="39983802297"]DPS:

1. Frost Mage
2. Rogue
3. Feral Druid
4. Frost DK
Vitalor
Kazzak
Vitalor
90 Tauren Shaman
8490
Edited by Vitalor on 11/05/12 10:42 (BST)
Actually about 70% of all classes can beat any healer if played correctly.
.

Not if both are equelly skilled, which is something you fail to understand.

Unlike resto druids, who simply have no chance against a dps who knows how to burst.


Actually everything I have argued about is about both of them being equally skilled, which does make me understand.

Maybe you should understand my points and not trying to win a pointless arguement?

Also you still changed your mind about druid being the only healers people can solo.
And you state that druids are the easiest healers to kill based on your personal experience not facts.
Vitalor
Kazzak
Vitalor
90 Tauren Shaman
8490


I was just making a point to my friend here :) also I never said that frost DKs are op.


Do read my edit.
And you DO state they are OP. They are first on your list in the OP.
So unless you somehow make a list about "Most overpowered classes for PvP", and put the weakest on top you'd have a point. But since you don't and put the most OP classes/specs on top, I see you are stating that Frost DKs are as you put it "Most overpowered".


Are you sure that my top 1 is FROST dk? ^_^
Gilrak
Defias Brotherhood
Gilrak
90 Troll Hunter
6205
Edited by Gilrak on 11/05/12 10:46 (BST)


Not if both are equelly skilled, which is something you fail to understand.

Unlike resto druids, who simply have no chance against a dps who knows how to burst.


Actually everything I have argued about is about both of them being equally skilled, which does make me understand.

Maybe you should understand my points and not trying to win a pointless arguement?

Also you still changed your mind about druid being the only healers people can solo.
And you state that druids are the easiest healers to kill based on your personal experience not facts.

Its not pointless. its a fact, its how healers are designed.

Which is why all 3 healers are fine, expect resto druids.

I don't base it on personal experience, I base it on facts. Everybody knows that resto druids are the easiest to kill outside of tree of life.
Thats why you don't see any high rated resto druids.
Vitalor
Kazzak
Vitalor
90 Tauren Shaman
8490


Actually everything I have argued about is about both of them being equally skilled, which does make me understand.

Maybe you should understand my points and not trying to win a pointless arguement?

Also you still changed your mind about druid being the only healers people can solo.
And you state that druids are the easiest healers to kill based on your personal experience not facts.

Its not pointless. its a fact, its how healers are designed.

Which is why all 3 healers are fine, expect resto druids.

I don't base it on personal experience, I base it on facts. Everybody knows that resto druids are the easiest to kill outside of tree of life.
Thats why you don't see any high rated resto druids.


Resto druids are the hardest healer to play in PVP, and this is a fact. There are not many skilled resto druid out there anymore because of their nerfs, but they are by no means underpowered and can be beast healers/ccers if played correctly.
Danthos
Genjuros
Danthos
90 Undead Rogue
6620
Basically blood dks are OP, IF whoever you're fighting is stupid enough to let you stay on them. Which comes seems very common...

If you're melee, you use your head and the blood dies, if your ranged, you keep ranged and the blood dies.


Cant attack them all the time....

OP!! NERF!!!

Have to kite them.....

OP!!! NERF!!!
Mirun
Azuremyst
Mirun
90 Dwarf Warlock
9995


Do read my edit.
And you DO state they are OP. They are first on your list in the OP.
So unless you somehow make a list about "Most overpowered classes for PvP", and put the weakest on top you'd have a point. But since you don't and put the most OP classes/specs on top, I see you are stating that Frost DKs are as you put it "Most overpowered".


Are you sure that my top 1 is FROST dk? ^_^


OK...blood DKs. Same class different spec
My point stays.
Vitalor
Kazzak
Vitalor
90 Tauren Shaman
8490


Are you sure that my top 1 is FROST dk? ^_^


OK...blood DKs. Same class different spec
My point stays.


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